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08-29-2017, 08:53 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
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You were the one saying there were no storm sewers, not me. Read your posts. I bet you can go to every major city and find comparable findings.
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08-29-2017, 09:24 PM
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Even today, most highway standards are 50 year design. Local roads are 25 year design.
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Originally Posted by Copierguy0
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...s-10826834.php
This all happened BEFORE Harvey.
By Dylan Baddour December 31, 2016 Updated: January 3, 2017 12:27pm
Virtually none of Houston's old pipes meet even the 100-year standard. As the city grows denser, the drainage system falls further behind.
We don't have to call each other names or try to get 1 up on the next guy. HOUSTON has been in trouble with rain fall for decades. Maybe y'all will believe the HOUSTON CHRONICLE with stats, pictures, and detailed documentation. Houston maintains 2,900 miles of roadside ditches, 3,600 miles of storm sewer pipes, plus 120,000 sewers, roadway grates and other inlets for floods to enter the system.
THATS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH, WITH OLD SMALL DIAMETER PIPES.
What will it take to fix the Houston floods? A lot. It mostly comes down to making space for the water and investing in drainage infrastructure. Pictured: Construction crews work to expand Brays Bayou,
pyramider, there is enough information all over the web, we ALL have access to it.
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08-29-2017, 09:50 PM
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You were the one saying there were no storm sewers, not me. Read your posts. I bet you can go to every major city and find comparable findings.
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There are also not many cities that have as many hurricanes that Houston has already had, and will continue to have. Yes they will have another hurricane and yes, it will flood again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...2%80%93present)
I re-read my posts and i did say that there were no sewers but what i should have said was, there are no sewers that work properly. (same as not having a sewer when you have small diameter outdated pipes in a well known hurricane area) I understand that this hurricane dropped a large amount of water in a short period of time but, the aftermath should have had some drainage with water levels dropping a lot sooner after a day or 2 with proper drainage. This was NOT the first hurricane that Houston had and it sure won't be the last. They have had 22 major hurricanes recorded from 1980 and many more before that. This problem will not go away. If you read this article that i posted,
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...s-10826834.php
it was printed 9 months ago, they had no idea that Harvey was coming. just like they have no idea that the next one is coming. The experts on that article said: they can fix Houston's problem and yes it will cost them. I am sure it won't cost as much as the hurricane water damage will. Look at the cost of the damage on each hurricane recorded. I know you understand what i am trying to say and not concentrate on each word but by it's meaning.
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08-29-2017, 10:34 PM
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El Hombre de la Mancha
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I had no idea what you were meaning. I do not interpret thoughts and meanings ...
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08-29-2017, 10:42 PM
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Maybe they should move to Tucson.
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Great place to visit. Gets a little toasty in the summertime but its not too bad once you get used to it....
Love the golf @ Ventana Canyon Resort, too.
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08-30-2017, 10:10 PM
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08-30-2017, 10:38 PM
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Great place to visit. Gets a little toasty in the summertime but its not too bad once you get used to it....
Love the golf @ Ventana Canyon Resort, too.
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Looks like an uncomfortable walk to the green. Carry fewer clubs?
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08-31-2017, 07:18 AM
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House GOP eyeing $1B disaster funds cut to finance wall
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Donald Trump is promising billions to help Texas rebuild from Harvey-caused epic flooding, but his Republican allies in the House are looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance the president's border wall.
http://abc13.com/politics/house-gop-eyeing-$1b-disaster-funds-cut-to-finance-wall/2360886/
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08-31-2017, 07:40 AM
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In my OP I said there will be great loss of life.
I think there still will now that the water is starting to recede and once it does, authorities will be able to enter the 50,000 plus homes that were flooded out on the inside with water as high as the ceiling or as high as the 2nd floor.
I think there will be many bodies found.
How many of these calls for help and these are just a small fraction of them resulted in actual rescues and how many of these were not rescued and didn't make it to safety on their own?
Especially the elderly that are immobile or the ones with little children and infants.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-for-help.html
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08-31-2017, 08:04 AM
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http://abc13.com/politics/house-gop-eyeing-$1b-disaster-funds-cut-to-finance-wall/2360886/
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The Fed runs out of $ on September 30th unless Congress can come up with a new budget.
Also the NFIP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...urance_Program also runs out of % on September 30th unless Congress can renew it with more funding but its funding is only about $5-6 billion per year and it's already over $24 billion in the red.
Some estimates so far on the damages by Harvey in Texas alone is over $100 billion.
But only about 20% of the flood victims that own properties have flood insurance.
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08-31-2017, 01:12 PM
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Another possible TS forming right in the gulf and another hurricane in the Atlantic.
All the areas already hit by Harvey and especially Houston and Beaumont and Port Arthur and even as far as New Orleans, they can't afford to get hit again by rain.
Hurricane season doesn't end until November 30th: that's 3 more months and there are still 17 letters left in the alphabet in the list of names for hurricanes for this season.
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09-01-2017, 05:20 PM
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This maybe bad for Texas and Louisiana and especially already hard hit areas like Houston and Corpus Christi and Beaumont and Port Arthur
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/us/hur...her/index.html
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09-03-2017, 10:31 PM
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Next time another hurricane is headed toward a major U.S. city, government officials on all levels: city, county, state, federal, can learn something from the Germans on how to evacuate large number of resident in a timely and efficient and orderly manner with no gridlock, no riots, no fights:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41140949
German engineering, baby!
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09-06-2017, 09:53 AM
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Looks like Irma gonna hit Florida by the end of the week and this one is packing 185 mph winds!
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