SURPRISE! The government lied about the CDC approval of the jab too!

[texassapper]

Legally, in order to mandate a vaccine, the vaccine must be fully approved. However, once a vaccine for use in adults moves from an EUA product to a licensed everyday product, it loses its liability shield.

We believe it is likely the FDA was instructed to find a way to both license the Pfizer vaccine — so mandates would be legally supported — while also retaining the vaccine’s liability shield.

The FDA could not find a way to do this under existing law. So instead, the agency chose to create confusion regarding the legal status of the two Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by texassapper

The current Pfizer vaccine was NOT given full approval by the FDA. This trick shows exactly how Pfizer and fda continue to screw the American people...

The vaccine approved is called Comirnaty. It will not be available in USA until 2024. This will allow Pfizer to finish longer term studies and avoid liability for marketing a killer vaccine.

The current vaccine that has an EUA made by BioNtech-Pfizer got an extension of its EUA and will be used in America. This will protect Pfizer from liability because they are not actively marketing the killer vaccine.

The current vaccine is identical to Comirnaty.

In other words, fda, pfizer, and the media make a lot of noise about an approved vaccine that is not available for the next 3 years. While the identical vaccine gets an extension of it’s EUA (not FDA approved).

The only thing that this legal trick accomplished is to fool the public and protect Pfizer from liability.

This is a poison death shot and you have no legal recourse because it has emergency authorization that protects the government and Pfizer from liability.

Okay, you admit the Pfizer current vaccine is identical to comirnaty. I have no idea what you are implying by saying comirnaty won't be available until 2024 and that it is due to some conspiracy between Pfizer and the FDA to hide liability.

More than 5.35 BILLION does of the COVID vaccines have been administered around the world. 41.4 million a day. In the U.S. 187 million people have received the vaccine. 3 deaths due to blood clots caused by the J&J vaccine have been reported, and since it is became known how to treat such patients, there have been zero deaths in the U.S. attributed to any of the COVID vaccines.

[oeb11]

SR - you may be correct

Your statement needs CDC or other factual reference. .


Starting a post with 'Okay ( or So) You Admit- is a hostile, accusatory, and self-centered way of saying - I am correct - and You are nothing. Typical 1b1 type manipualation.

Typical DPSTmindset.

The attitude is - I am always 'right' - and I have the Right to rule because I am a Superior being compared to normal mortals. ! especially worthless Conservatives/Republicans.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Okay, you admit the Pfizer current vaccine is identical to comirnaty. I have no idea what you are implying by saying comirnaty won't be available until 2024 and that it is due to some conspiracy between Pfizer and the FDA to hide liability.

I'm not sure what he's getting at either.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

More than 5.35 BILLION does of the COVID vaccines have been administered around the world. 41.4 million a day. In the U.S. 187 million people have received the vaccine. 3 deaths due to blood clots caused by the J&J vaccine have been reported, and since it is became known how to treat such patients, there have been zero deaths in the U.S. attributed to any of the COVID vaccines.

I believe more than 3 people have died from the vaccines. But so what? What if several thousand died? And that's unlikely. But anyway compared to the hundreds of thousands of lives the vaccines will save, the risk/reward ratio is off the scale in favor of the vaccines.

[rexdutchman]

Hmm my sister and brother in laws have had all 3 shots and are very sick with the covid sooo Why somebody lying to us ,,,,,for big pharma

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by rexdutchman

Hmm my sister and brother in laws have had all 3 shots and are very sick with the covid sooo Why somebody lying to us ,,,,,for big pharma

People who have been vaccinated can get COVID. My wife did but had minor symptoms and had fatigue for about a week. Did you brother and sister in laws require hospitalization? That is what the vaccine will prevent in most cases if they catch COVID.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

People who have been vaccinated can get COVID. My wife did but had minor symptoms and had fatigue for about a week. Did you brother and sister in laws require hospitalization? That is what the vaccine will prevent in most cases if they catch COVID.

80% of the people hospitalized in Israel have been vaxxed. They are 2-3 months ahead of us on the vaxx path... guess what happens in 2-3 months here...

yeah, get that jab! lol

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by texassapper

80% of the people hospitalized in Israel have been vaxxed. They are 2-3 months ahead of us on the vaxx path... guess what happens in 2-3 months here...

yeah, get that jab! lol

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, please brush up on your math skills. This is explained by Simpson's paradox. Using August data, among Israeli's under 50, you were 13X likelier to be hospitalized from COVID if you were unvaccinated. For Israeli's over 50, you were almost 7 times likelier to be hospitalized if unvaccinated. The vaccines in August were 85% to 95% effective against severe disease. (1)(2)

The reasons for the seeming discrepancy,

1. The percentage of COVID patients in Israeli hospitals with severe COVID who are vaccinated was actually around 50% to 60%, not 80%, a few weeks ago. Now, perhaps because of boosters, Israel has more unvaccinated hospitalized patients than vaccinated hospital patients. (1)(2)(3)

2. A substantially higher percentage of older people are vaccinated in Israel than younger people.

3. Older people are much more likely to be hospitalized from COVID than younger people. Like orders of magnitude more likely.

Consider this example. If, say, 100% of old people were vaccinated, and the vaccine reduced their probability of hospitalization by 90%, so they were 100X likelier to be hospitalized than young, unvaccinated people instead of 1000X more likely, then still most of the hospitalized will be old, vaccinated people.

Footnotes

(1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...psons-paradox/

(2) https://www.covid-datascience.com/po...are-vaccinated

(3) https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...er-2021-08-20/

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Tiny

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, please brush up on your math skills.

LOL... try and rationalize it away... the same will be true here in 2-3 months.. and ignorant people like you will still be claiming its the unvaxxed to blame and you will continue to push a vaxx that doesnt work as advertised...

enjoy your booster shots.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by texassapper

LOL... try and rationalize it away... the same will be true here in 2-3 months.. and ignorant people like you will still be claiming its the unvaxxed to blame and you will continue to push a vaxx that doesnt work as advertised...

enjoy your booster shots.

It's a pretty simple calculation. You divide the total number of vaccinated COVID patients in Israeli hospitals under 50 to the total number of vaccinated people in Israel under 50. Then repeat for the unvaccinated under 50. Then repeat both steps for the over 50's. That's not rationalization, it's math.

[1blackman1]

Tiny, don’t waste your time providing math and facts to the irrational and ignorant. They’ll never figure it out. Never.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Tiny, don’t waste your time providing math and facts to the irrational and ignorant. They’ll never figure it out. Never.

Thank you - supercilious insulter .
Do look in a mirror while speaking your writings - you might someday just see your own self.

The combination of out of control ego, with pathologic low self- esteem - means self-examination is a very long walk to a very short 'slide'.


CRT - the DPST communist party is teh largest distributor of Racist hatred that has ever existed in America.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Tiny, don’t waste your time providing math and facts to the irrational and ignorant. They’ll never figure it out. Never.

Maybe we need an eccie University on Zoom. I'll teach remedial math and classical liberalism. You can teach Practical law for Hookers and Johns. Chung Tran can coach us on where to find fat, pregnant and lactating providers.

[rexdutchman]

To answer YES this morning the doctor by phone (?) admitted for precaution
Side note today , Israel By pop has most vaccinated , and Shocker the most CASES Hmm
Somebodies lying ,, soylent greens coming LOL

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by texassapper

the CDC’s own data, if you were 0-19 years old – and this was very early on, we had this data – your risk of survival was 99.98 percent. If you were 20-49, the data showed us your risk of survival – had you been infected – was 99.97 percent. If you were 50-70, your risk of survival was 99.5 percent. You were almost at 100 percent guaranteed risk of survival if you were infected.”
Those are survival rates without medical assistance.

A 99.98 survival rate or a .02 death rate sounds great when you are talking about smaller numbers. It's a different story when you a talking about a country with 330 million people. Assume there is no vaccine and 300,000,000 in the USA people get infected by SARS CoV2 virus.

.02 * 300,000,000 = 6,000,000 deaths

No politician is going to push for that. Fact is 99.2 % of the deaths from CoVid are from people who were unvaccinated.