Whistleblower Email - I Have Questions, Please.

[gt27]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

Wrong in so many ways. I'll point out just one: your assertion that "if you put in one false accusation that costs someone their job you can be sure that a libel suit is coming your way and you are going to get a judgment against you." Good-faith reports regarding illegal conduct (sexual harassment is illegal) are PRIVILEGED, meaning a libel suit won't stick. Also, I should hire you for your fortune-telling abilities. I've been practicing law for 38 years and I can't say for "sure" when a lawsuit will be filed. Let me guess: You're an IT guy, right?

So, you want to get into the pissing match of good faith v. legitimate, huh? Honesty in fact and reasonable, or according to established rules and principles. . . And do you really want me to start using terms of art on this board? Really? I think most people understand what the meaning of legitimate is, while spelling out a two pronged test on this board seems to be exercising futility.

"I've been practicing law for 38 years and can't say for sure when a lawsuit will be filed"(nice passive voice by the way, seeing as we are nitpicking semantics on a hooker board). I would venture that a reasonable person would find a substantial increase in litigation occurs once a party makes a vengeful letter that contains some inaccurate information, wouldn't you? Especially if said information results in the termination of someone from a position they currently hold. Hell, one might even call that libel unless he was in "good faith" or, as some would say, a legitimate claim. It's difficult to understand the greek tragedy you are describing when we are talking about a legal term of art vs. a colloquial synonym.

Further, I don't think I need 38 years of experience to caution that prudence is a virtue.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by gt27

So, you want to get into the pissing match of good faith v. legitimate, huh?

No, I want you to say something -- ANYTHING -- that has some connection to THE LAW. Your second post continues the drivel of your first post, which is a view of the law based on watching TV and movies, I guess. Do you understand that 'Law and Order,' for example, isn't real?

Again, I'd caution anyone who's unqualified to render legal advice to STFU. Please.

[alphatwo]

Do they have an ethics hotline you could use? Call the 800 number from a land-line, not yours. May or may not get results, but where I'm at, it would. I've seen it.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by alphatwo

Do they have an ethics hotline you could use? Call the 800 number from a land-line, not yours. May or may not get results, but where I'm at, it would. I've seen it.

Yeah, like the number to report sexual harassment at Fox News. Haha.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/b...l-oreilly.html

[alphatwo]

DAMN, how did you figure out i worked at Fox News?

[Normal guy]

I just read through all of these replies and still have a question. If the guy uses his phone while NOT on WiFi, just the regular LTE network, to send an anonymous email from an email account, how can that be traced to HIS phone? Assuming the email account was set up and used ONLY via the phone on LTE, I don't see how his old company can trace it back to his phone.

Am I missing something here? If so, what is it?

[Unique_Carpenter]

A good it tech can trace anything to an ip address. Some it techs have friends that can provide ip subscriber data without paperwork. And, every piece of equip has an ip address, including our handhelds.

After three pages of thread (and repeating others above) the answer is four words:

Use a postage stamp.

Although there's several folks that said mail, Analeese had the answer first at post 2 with "typed letter".

[Crock]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

A good it tech can trace anything to an ip address. Some it techs have friends that can provide ip subscriber data without paperwork. And, every piece of equip has an ip address, including our handhelds.

After three pages of thread (and repeating others above) the answer is four words:

Use a postage stamp.

Although there's several folks that said mail, Analeese had the answer first at post 2 with "typed letter".

So what?

What good is the IP address that you got from a Google mail server via the cell tower that you were connected to at the moment you sent the email? MAC address is more identifiable, but that doesn't go out in an email.

LE could get the account information from Google, but some corporate IT schmuck is not going to be able to trace diddley squat.

Stop spreading FUD.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Crock
Your handheld has an ip address on file with whomever your carrier is. All telco, txt, email, etc. contain that ip address and it's logged for billing.
And, I did not say corporate it.
I said good it tech.
All ip addresses can be traced to suscriber data.
Top end it guys at cable/telco outfits have security clearance into each other's systems.
Big brother wants same access, but by trapdoor so no one knows what they look at.
Getting back to this board, no one's gonna care about misdemeanors.
Hacked off Corp attnys have filled paperwork before to uncover subscriber data in several copywrite cases.
So yes it can be done.

[Crock]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Crock
...Hacked off Corp attnys have filled paperwork before to uncover subscriber data in several copywrite cases.
So yes it can be done.

What kind of paperwork would that be? Can you share more information on this, please?

[Unique_Carpenter]

Some attorney's client gets hacked off and spends money on a copyright, trade secrets, or other reasonable cause issue to get a supebona.
Look up:
"Copyright infringement notice from isp". Ignoring that it's usually a computer that's being hunted, same works for handhelds. And same tech tracking is used when lawyers get subpoenas for other stuff and serve that on an isp. Note that there are attorneys that specialize in protecting a companies on-line image and those guys/gals are pretty sharp and the couple I know work long hours and get paid very well.

Closing thoughts,
LEO does not waste time, effort, or funds on misdemeanor stuff. However, if hunting for other reasons, they are very good and all isp/telco outfits will comply as part of their fcc licencing.

As for burner phones, gv or similar, a lot of folks are careless when setting them up.

Back to OPs original query:
A stamp is simple, cheaper and easily less hastle.

[Normal guy]

The problem with the OP using a stamp is that they (the OP) will not be able to see any potential replies from the company's HR department. It's like dropping a bomb but running away and not knowing if it went off or not. And if it did, how much damage was done.

All that being said, if I were in the OP's shoes, I'd type it up at Kinko's and mail it from a neighboring town that they don't live in. I believe the OP said they still have friends who work there, so if the shit hits the fan, they'll probably let the OP know.