OPINION: Think support for Trump is dying down? His New York rally told a different story.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

I read her article. I'm not throwing her under the bus at all. I'm using the same argument virtually every MAGA poster used when assaulting the MSM.

Will remember this quote from you the next time I see you suggest there's media bias coming from the left. Or the right (like your silly comedian woke videos.)

How is it that this is the one story from the "liberal media" that isn't suspect?


LOLLING!

yeah you are, you stated this was "propaganda". the lady wrote an opinion after attending the rally. why is it propaganda just because she came away with a overall positive opinion? or at least not a negative opinion as you seem to want here?

i guarantee you if that lady's article was "OPINION:MAGAS are all Idiots" you'd agree with every word.


the MSM is biased. and i've said so many times here. and FOX News to name the elephant in the room is also the MSM.


they are all biased one way or the other. the difference is that the liberal msm outlets outnumber the conservative msm by 5 to 1 at least. and i'm being "liberal" with that number it's probably higher


it means that the liberal msm with their bias/slants and lies outnumber greatly the conservative slant. because of the sheer numbers alone, the liberal media are the kings of disinformation and bias.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

Trump's act is old and tired. few liked either Trump or Biden, just like few liked Hillary or Trump. Harris is a fresh face. Voters don't see her as too old or too vindictive (vs. Trump).

we saw 4 years of the Trump shitshow. you really think voters want 4 more years of that? just naw..

... Yes, the voters DO - because the polls say so!

Trump is seeing almost FIFTY Percent (50%) support
from Hispanic voters ... And 30% with Black voters.

... See? ... Trump's support is GROWiNG! ...

#### Salty

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Yes, the voters DO - because the polls say so!

Trump is seeing almost FIFTY Percent (50%) support
from Hispanic voters ... And 30% with Black voters.

... See? ... Trump's support is GROWiNG! ...

#### Salty

Please list the polls where he’s got 30% among “Black voters”

You’re pulling our leg again Salty.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Yes, the voters DO - because the polls say so!

Trump is seeing almost FIFTY Percent (50%) support
from Hispanic voters ... And 30% with Black voters.

... See? ... Trump's support is GROWiNG! ...

#### Salty

The latest poll has Harris up 79-16 among likely Black voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/polit...ump/index.html

The latest PEW poll has Harris up 57-39 among Latino voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and...s-mirror-2020/

As usual you conveniently left out any specific polls to support your claims.

[Yssup Rider]

Seems like that popularity just took a hit this week:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

According to the latest poll, Harris is leading Trump in 6 swing states and they're tied in the 7th. That is if you believe the polls.

Is that because Trump's popularity is growing?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems like that popularity just took a hit this week:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

According to the latest poll, Harris is leading Trump in 6 swing states and they're tied in the 7th. That is if you believe the polls.

Is that because Trump's popularity is growing?

Kamala Harris Holds Razor-Thin Lead Across Swing States in Tight 2024 Race

razor-thin. hope she doesn't cut her throat shaving .. or giving an interview

bahahahaa

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems like that popularity just took a hit this week:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

According to the latest poll, Harris is leading Trump in 6 swing states and they're tied in the 7th. That is if you believe the polls.

Is that because Trump's popularity is growing?

Bloomberg polls have no credibility. There is a pattern of their polls being liberal favorable. Say the last 5-6 polls have harris at +1 to Trump at +1, Bloomberg will have her at +5 or something way out there. https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris and here is another with Bloomberg way out of line. https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris

I get my polling from here (https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls) and here (,https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/) but right now I don't pay much attention to the polls. They change every couple of days. Actually I go to gambling websites to see what those folks who put their money where their mouth is has to say.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The latest poll has Harris up 79-16 among likely Black voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/polit...ump/index.html

The latest PEW poll has Harris up 57-39 among Latino voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and...s-mirror-2020/

As usual you conveniently left out any specific polls to support your claims.

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems like that popularity just took a hit this week:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

According to the latest poll, Harris is leading Trump in 6 swing states and they're tied in the 7th. That is if you believe the polls.

Is that because Trump's popularity is growing?

amusing how you guys deride polls .. until you find one you like .. then it's "FACT"

bahahahaaa

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The latest poll has Harris up 79-16 among likely Black voters.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/polit...ump/index.html

The latest PEW poll has Harris up 57-39 among Latino voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and...s-mirror-2020/

As usual you conveniently left out any specific polls to support your claims.

... I didn't mention "polls" there, mate.
Just me feeling when I read articles and posts elsewhere
from people "in the know"...

Trump might get 50% of Hispanic support and some 30%
support from Black voters.

#### Salty

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Seems like that popularity just took a hit this week:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...uverify%20wall

According to the latest poll, Harris is leading Trump in 6 swing states and they're tied in the 7th. That is if you believe the polls.

Is that because Trump's popularity is growing?

One more thing about the polls and headlines. Remember back in 2022 there was supposed to be a red tidal wave, and even though we won the house, it's wasn't close to the margin it was suggested it would be.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... I didn't mention "polls" there, mate.
Just me feeling when I read articles and posts elsewhere
from people "in the know"...

Trump might get 50% of Hispanic support and some 30%
support from Black voters.

#### Salty

Wanna bet? You don’t have anything to support that claim?

Is it a hunch? That would be fine. I have a hunch it will go the other way, but can’t prove it.

Trump will get jail time, according to people “in the know,”. That sounds far more likely than 50% Hispanic support.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

Bloomberg polls have no credibility. There is a pattern of their polls being liberal favorable. Say the last 5-6 polls have harris at +1 to Trump at +1, Bloomberg will have her at +5 or something way out there. https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris and here is another with Bloomberg way out of line. https://www.realclearpolling.com/pol...rump-vs-harris

I get my polling from here (https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls) and here (,https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/) but right now I don't pay much attention to the polls. They change every couple of days. Actually I go to gambling websites to see what those folks who put their money where their mouth is has to say.

You are correct. Bloomberg polls show a SLIGHT tilt to the left, not close to Rasmussen's polls tilt to the right, but definitely tilt left. And using 538 or RCP is much more accurate than depending on one poll. 538 has all the swing states within the margin of error.

As for the gambling websites, last I looked all of them had Harris as the favorite.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/bet...2024/president

[Yssup Rider]

Gambling sites are designed to direct the money to the middle. So the people who put their money where their mouth is are reacting to the betting line.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Gambling sites are designed to direct the money to the middle. So the people who put their money where their mouth is are reacting to the betting line.

quite right. that's why the Vegas sports book has a "point spread" to cover. it was designed to keep the Vegas bookies from losing their ass in the case of a big upset.

and like the Duke Brothers the Vegas bookies don't really care who wins or loses as long as they get their "juice"


polls are probably a better indicator of election odds than the Vegas book is


baahahahaaa

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Bloomberg polls show a SLIGHT tilt to the left, not close to Rasmussen's polls tilt to the right, but definitely tilt left.

Slight? Either you didn't check out the links or you're in severe denial. If there was a poll that tossed out the high and low, Bloomberg wouldn't even be mentioned.


Being a conservative, I prefer to check out the Trafalgar polls, but realize they do have an actual slight tilt to the right.