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Old 10-17-2010, 09:42 PM   #31
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Another point worth considering about identities and personal information...

A while back, I began to receive phone calls (as did a few other gents...) from a woman threatening to call my wife. Of course I ignored them at first, but she persisted. Fortunately, I had no wife, and informed her of such on another of her calls. Then she threatened to call my boss...hmmm...guess what, I was one of the bosses and my partner was a bigger player than I! It took a while, but I quited her down by offering up a dose of her own medicine. Regardless, it was still unsettling even though I had nothing to lose by being compromised.

So, the point of the story is that ever since then, P 411 has ben very helpful in obtaining appointments since I typically have recent OK's. And I'm careful who gets what information. So yes, if a reputable lady asked for ID, I'd cover the vitals and giver her peace of mind. But you always have to watch your own back in the hobby...
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Old 10-17-2010, 10:35 PM   #32
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Here's another issue.

IF it is a cop at your door and you are that close that you are asking him for ID, you are already busted. Try to prove otherwise and you'll find out how busted you are.

The issue of someone "sharing" P411 handles is an ongoing battle that happens and Gina will take whatever action she deems appropriate to help keep everyone safe.

Never forget that IF the police can create deep covers for DEA or other crap, creating an ID with valid driver's license and other verification forms will be les tough and done faster so let's not get your panties in a wad.

IF the cops want you, male or female, you will be busted.

keeping a low profile, avoiding the things we can't talk about and most important of all, keep the fuck away from underage girls and your exposure is limited.
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Old 10-17-2010, 11:38 PM   #33
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P411 has made my life safer and easier so a boycott is out of the question. That said, I have to wonder how thorough providers screen because, according to the P422 tracking feature, most do not check my profile before setting an appointment. Maybe it is because my reputation precedes me .
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Old 10-18-2010, 04:00 AM   #34
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Why is it that the client needs to prove their IDs and not the providers? Was it not recently a provider was using photos of an Internet model on her ads? If I showed up at her location, would I not be in my right asking for her ID?

How did safety become only provider-centric? Could not a provider play games and swipe the drivers license from the client's hands?

As for taping the drivers license with tape, hope guys remember to remove it before a cop stops you for speeding and asks for it.
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Old 10-18-2010, 07:10 AM   #35
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I haven't used P411 for a couple of years. Just too much of a pain in the ass to keep a secret. Plus, I heartily provide references. I don't mind showing ID, but have never been asked. On the other hand, I like to meet providers before I see them--at socials, etc.--so we know each other enough to preclude LE, obvious psychoses, etc., before BCD. But I wouldn't boycott P411. It's just another tool, and I certainly don't blame anyone, especially providers, for wanting to be safe.
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Old 10-18-2010, 09:46 AM   #36
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If guys aren't comfortable showing ID, they won't boycott p411. They would just boycott the ladies who required ID. Had to agree with the guy who said you tried to sensationalize this.
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I hear/see all these ads and women using P411 as a tool for verification, but no one really verifies!!!

Simple question.


How many of you would boycott P411 if MOST of the ladies that advertise there followed the screening guidelines set in place by Gina?

If that upon arrival, the lady checks your ID and makes sure they match with the ID of the person that contacted her?

With everyone screaming SAFETY lately, how many are willing to go that extra step?

I would have made this a poll, but I noticed on another poll that the voters were visible. Unfortunately, so are the posts that are going to make up the base of this thread.

I know I personally will be checking IDs... and I sure hope more women do as well.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:12 AM   #37
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I will have to decide what to do IF this ever becomes an issue. If using P411 were to become too invasive, I would simply stop using it. Untill then? Not worried about it at all.
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:45 PM   #38
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May be the providers requesting IDs should ask Gina to implement a P411 photo ID card for an additional fee?
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Old 10-19-2010, 07:24 AM   #39
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Gina rocks, P411 is the Gold Standard and anyone that want's to boycott P411 that's fine but you will won't be seeing me or anyone else that feels the same like I do about P411.
Well said Tex! I agree and feel the same for Gina and p411.
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:07 AM   #40
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May be the providers requesting IDs should ask Gina to implement a P411 photo ID card for an additional fee?
And, for those of us with an SO at home, where could this card be mailed? Not the office certainly, and I work hard enough already to keep things on the sly without trying to maintain a secret safe deposit box.
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Old 10-19-2010, 03:22 PM   #41
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My experience: 1 time 3 years ago a lady asked to see my ID. No problem, used the thumb-cover and she got to see what she wanted. I haven't been asked since by anybody.

Tracking: Unless it has changed, ladies can check your P411 by phone and it does not show in your tracking. So don't assume she hasn't checked using that as your basis. It shows up on your tracking when she uses the net. (I'm reasonably sure it works if she uses the smart phone using internet also.) Gina can clear this up when or if she wants to for anybody concerned.

I also have all the info on one single piece of ID. The last 4 digits of the ID on a separate form is something that must have started within the last few years. My feeble, old mind doesn't remember that but I seriously doubt that it would be an issue since I still have it available on just the 1 ID. Just sayin'...
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:57 PM   #42
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I have shown my ID before. I have covered info on my license, so that my full name and address are not visible.
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Old 10-19-2010, 11:07 PM   #43
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I use p411 all the time and it is the best hobby tool I have ever found. I have been a member since March of 2006. The best thing about p411 is the integrity as Gina is the best. It is the most trusted site I have ever come across. I will use it forever
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:53 AM   #44
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no p-411 no hobby for me....

Gina does a good job
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:57 PM   #45
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We could get our DL #'s tattooed on our d*cks so that it couldn't be read until it was hard and at least if we didn't match we got a hand job!
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