A question for Ladies that have been Mistresses/Sugar Babies and the guys that kept them

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Not all girls are here to prey on people so you're going to need to dig further than that for an excuse to treat naive girls badly just because a few streetwalkers or whomever have got you feeling bitter and fucked up your mindset about the real world and all the different people in it.

Once again you use the SW thing, I guess you are not immune to cheap shots either. Many things I could say but I will keep them to myself but you know I know better....

sixx

[Rand Al'Thor]

I actually don't do free auditions. It just leads to bad blood if it doesn't work out. I do compensate them for auditions, just not at the going rate here. However, if there's no interest over a meal, then there is no audition. Dinner's on me, but that's it.

Hanna, it wasn't a play for free companionship. I have enough trouble juggling business travel and the accumulated time with current girls right now.

About the only freebies I've gotten were with strippers, actually.

[Reya Sunshine]

Actually Sixx, you've never struck me as the kind to KEEP ANYTHING to yourself and since this is a public conversation and you say you have info that contradicts my statement then there's no reason you shouldn't post it.

As for mentioning that you enjoy the company of girls Staff edit...forbidden topic...Spacemtn, battling homelessness, runaways from poor family situations engaging in survival prostitution by streetwalking etc. simply to save a few bucks...it's a well known fact that you openly admit so how is it a "cheap shot" unless perhaps you are ashamed on some level for taking advantage of some of the most vulnerable women in America.

Anyway, per your statement you have MANY things you could say. PLEASE say them.

Originally Posted by sixxbach

Once again you use the SW thing, I guess you are not immune to cheap shots either. Many things I could say but I will keep them to myself but you know I know better....

sixx

[Reya Sunshine]

I didn't think it was...you're too smart for that!

Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor

I actually don't do free auditions. It just leads to bad blood if it doesn't work out. I do compensate them for auditions, just not at the going rate here. However, if there's no interest over a meal, then there is no audition. Dinner's on me, but that's it.

Hanna, it wasn't a play for free companionship. I have enough trouble juggling business travel and the accumulated time with current girls right now.

About the only freebies I've gotten were with strippers, actually.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Any guy that has money and is serious + not a douchebag will have zero problem paying for a lil bedroom test action. Most of the guys on those sites are just full of shit and looking to get over on naive girls.

I'm not going to suggest that there are NOT both guys looking for how much they can get for how little as well as women looking to milk every penny they can from someone not experienced.

But there are both guys and gals that are sincere in what they are looking for some guys will simply respond to a request for money up front as "If I was looking for hooker I would be looking elsewhere.....

personally... I haven't looked at those sites in about 5-6 years with the idea in mind of finding someone... It is interesting at times to discover local ladies from the community there looking as well.........

I find most ladies these days in the circle of friends/associates of girls I already play with.... and I get approached more than I need to go looking lately....

There are plenty of ladies with minimal needs that are not sex workers but willing to enter the fringes in exchange for assistance these days......

and in some cases it is no small investment on the part of the guy.... I took my last girl from the floor of her sister's apartment into a 2BD apartment and fully furnished it in 2 weeks and dropped close to $7K in a week....

Naturally I built in some protection for myself for the short term and it actually worked out well over the long term.....

[Reya Sunshine]

If those guys are looking to pay a girl for her companionship and sex then they ARE looking for a hooker no matter how much they try to whitewash it. If it works for them then more power to them.

Originally Posted by Whispers

I'm not going to suggest that there are NOT both guys looking for how much they can get for how little as well as women looking to milk every penny they can from someone not experienced.

But there are both guys and gals that are sincere in what they are looking for some guys will simply respond to a request for money up front as "If I was looking for hooker I would be looking elsewhere.....

personally... I haven't looked at those sites in about 5-6 years with the idea in mind of finding someone... It is interesting at times to discover local ladies from the community there looking as well.........

I find most ladies these days in the circle of friends/associates of girls I already play with.... and I get approached more than I need to go looking lately....

There are plenty of ladies with minimal needs that are not sex workers but willing to enter the fringes in exchange for assistance these days......

and in some cases it is no small investment on the part of the guy.... I took my last girl from the floor of her sister's apartment into a 2BD apartment and fully furnished it in 2 weeks and dropped close to $7K in a week....

Naturally I built in some protection for myself for the short term and it actually worked out well over the long term.....

[Rand Al'Thor]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

If those guys are looking to pay a girl for her companionship and sex then they ARE looking for a hooker no matter how much they try to whitewash it. If it works for them then more power to them.

Some people need to wrap themselves in a shroud to protect themselves from the idea that they are engaging in P4P. Strippers do this often, as well as new sugar babies. If that's the bubble they need to wrap around their morality to feel comfortable while taking my money to have sex with me, I generally don't see the need to point it out to them.

[Yssup Rider]

So exactly when will you be booking sessions in Austin, Hannah?

Just curious. This board will be dead when you get to town!

Hurry up now, yhear? All this foreplay is getting me prematurely, er, you know!

[incognito isis]

Originally Posted by incognito isis

I was a Sugar Baby once. It definitely lead me to escorting. Being a Sugar Baby is soooo very draining. You have to sell more of yourself for less money. You have to be a friend and a lover to someone you are only with because of $$$$. Where with escorting we are on a time schedule, and once were done were done- no expectation of closeness..

To answer your question, the mans wife found out he was shacking up with me in his penthouse. So in respect to his wife, he had to end things with me.....

I continued my search for another Sugar Daddy. They all want to meet for dinner to interview you. Ok no problem. I interviewed alot of men. Going to dinner is fine with me. But......


Most SD seekers want to test the milk before they buy the cow. I never allowed this except once, because there are too many scammers out there who try to take advantage of a woman in need. Scum/filth! How low. So the one time I allowed the dude to test the milk I ended up a BIG SUCKER!! What did I get for my efforts?? A couple of drinks? He slept with me and I left to go home. He emailed me the next day to say he decided to go with another girl who he had more chemistry with. So do you see how I felt used??

After that happened, I decided this sugar baby thing is for the birds. I might as well dip both my feet in and charge PER HOUR. I wanted to avoid full blown escorting, but the entire SB/SD thing is a very difficult thing to work out. You see, what I found is that these men who took me to dinner for the interview, well they would say I will give you X amount of money to home home with me tonight for XXX Fun. So I figured, well OK, if were going to have this beneficial relationship then I'm going to eventually be intimate anyways. So I would go home with the man, do it, get paid, then leave.

The next day the man would say he liked me but he decided he's not looking for any type of relationship. When he gets horny again he will call me. So I had a few guys who called me when they were horny and I would meet them, get paid and go home. I WAS NOT being paid for the hour. He would pay me 200 and I would stay like 4 hours....

Eventually, I started to look up escorting ads. I saw the women were charging ATLEAST 200 per hour, if not more. Then I figured, what the hell am I doing?? I'm already getting paid for XXX. I might as well nix this SD/SB "relationship" and start charging by the hour.....and I did. Escorting in itself can also be draining. I do get burnt out. BUT it's waaaaay more lucrative than SB/SD and less of a headache. I feel, eventually all sugar babies will want to move on to more money. Most will turn into escorting. Unless they finish college and get a great job before then, or fall in love.

Scammers deliberately seek out SB seekers for free pussss um, I mean free milk. Sugar Babies are not escorts. They are usually less nieve and less street smart. Scammers are rampant in the beneficial relationship world.

I agree 100% with what Hannah is saying. As stated above, all the men I met were either scammers, OR just looking for a lil fun on the side. I engaged in the ones seeking a lil fun, because they were in fact, willing to open their wallets. I don't think me seeking out a SD makes me a user. I was honest with my financial needs and expectations. The losers trolling the SB/SD boards are not. They are freebie fishers. Scammers. Losers trying to take advantage of a girl in need. I mean, to me that is the lowest of the low: taking advantage of a woman already in a bad place. Stealing or manipulating a woman seeking help.

And yes, I do feel scammed by the one man who I slept with and then he told me he decided to go with someone else. I was nieve and less street smart. I thought he only wanted to sleep with me because he was genuinely interested in a beneficial relationship. Wrong. He was a scammer from the get go. Trolling the SB/SD sites seeking out girls in need.

Those Sugar Daddy sites are fluff. You have scammer low lives trolling them. Even the men with money on there, they know what their doing. They know the girls are desperate so they use their status to get free milk from the cow.....any man who tries to manipulate or take from a woman seeking assistence is the lowest of the low.

PLUS all the sugar daddy wannabees are seeking BBFS. I think they want NSA sex but are too cheap to pay an escort, plus more bare back options. THERE SHOULD BE NO FREE AUDITIONS IN SUGAR DADDY WORLD. Equally so, there shouldn't be tons of money spent on a lady unless you know she is the "one" for you. But unless your a scammer, you should be offereing to pay for those auditions.

There is another poster here, I won't say who he is because I don't know if thats allowed. (I'm still new here). Anyway, he wrote this big essay about being a sugar daddy. He bragged about meeting all these women for lunch, and then they would "blow him in the car in the parking lot." He went on to say you can get tons of free sex off the sugar baby sites because the women are desperate. He was giving the hobbyists here ideas. I'm sure they are all going to follow his advice too.

It made me sick to read his big proud essay. But can you imagine how all those women feel? I mean the ones who blew him for free? Here they are meeting this dude thinking it might be their saving grace all the while he has a hard on and thats all he's thinking about. He's not thinking about their needs or problems or kids. Then they blow him for free, which is a testament to their desperation, right, and then they never hear from him. So they go home empty handed AND feeling like shit. As if they didn't feel like shit to begin with. They feel like shit, thats why they're on the sugar daddy site trying to get someone to HELP them.

[Reya Sunshine]

Yea, it's probably best if you don't because if they are already having such issues with P4P to the point they have to lie to themselves then confronting them with the truth isn't likely to go over well.

Originally Posted by Rand Al'Thor

Some people need to wrap themselves in a shroud to protect themselves from the idea that they are engaging in P4P. Strippers do this often, as well as new sugar babies. If that's the bubble they need to wrap around their morality to feel comfortable while taking my money to have sex with me, I generally don't see the need to point it out to them.

[Reya Sunshine]

Around April 10th for 2 or 3 days...haven't booked my flight or hotel yet so we'll see what happens between now and then.

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So exactly when will you be booking sessions in Austin, Hannah?

Just curious. This board will be dead when you get to town!

Hurry up now, yhear? All this foreplay is getting me prematurely, er, you know!

[harkontume]

Had a six month "relationship" over 18 months ago.
She was a "Dancer"

First of all: It was FUN.
It was honest
It was the greatest Sex I have ever had or probably ever will have.
The Chemistry was Fantastic. I would get "excited" just driving to her place.

But YES it is wearing. And feelings come into play. So that is why I DONT do the Sugar deal. Because we are all human and what starts as play usually wont stay play for long.

Safe Sex is an hour at a time.

[austinkboy]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Around April 10th for 2 or 3 days...haven't booked my flight or hotel yet so we'll see what happens between now and then.

So what do you mean by "what happens between now and then..."? After all this build up, I would hope that you will not disappoint all of the Asians and Asian wanna be's in Austin.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by austinkboy

So what do you mean by "what happens between now and then..."? After all this build up, I would hope that you will not disappoint all of the Asians and Asian wanna be's in Austin.

He's Back!

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Hannah Heresy

Actually Sixx, you've never struck me as the kind to KEEP ANYTHING to yourself and since this is a public conversation and you say you have info that contradicts my statement then there's no reason you shouldn't post it.

Honey there are many hobby secrets that I keep to myself. Believe that...

As for mentioning that you enjoy the company of girls Staff Edit...Forbidden Topic...Spacemtn, battling homelessness, runaways from poor family situations engaging in survival prostitution by streetwalking etc. simply to save a few bucks...it's a well known fact that you openly admit so how is it a "cheap shot" unless perhaps you are ashamed on some level for taking advantage of some of the most vulnerable women in America.

What difference is that with prostituting as a whole? Oh wait, you are better than other sex workers because you get guys to pay you... 300 or is it 400 an hour now? That's wonderful for you and glad you can do that. There are many gals on this site with drug habits of varying degrees, some that can't pay the rent, runaways at one time. The only thing they are not doing is walking the street. NOT much of a difference IMO. You have always had an elitist attitude when it comes to the hobby.

The SW scene is stagnant right now in Austin. The gentrification of East Austin, the "rebuilding" of SoCo are some factors. I also think the cheaper access to computers has contributed alot too. 300 bucks can get you a decent PC whereas it use to be a grand. There are also telephone chat lines that women can go on for free and ply their trade. Lots of those gals that you see on BP would have been streetwalkers if not for the affordability and user friendly sites like BP and/or using telephone chat lines.

You can act you are better than others but you are not. You depend on men for money whether you like it or not.

We are all taking advantage of each other when you break it down. Some people just like to make themselves feel better so when they look in the mirror they can see a "good person"....


Anyway, per your statement you have MANY things you could say. PLEASE say them.

sixx