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Old 11-30-2018, 03:55 PM   #31
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The trump base is shrinking and now only consist of the most deplorable deplorables. Any trump supporters that were not deplorables or uneducated have fled the Republican Party that now has as its leader a criminal Racist homophobe. The republican part will never recover from trump. Trumps base at this point is irrelevant.

You've got to provide some backup to the claim that his base is shrinking.

I know quite a few and they are quite educated and certainly not racists. Some voted for Trump because they would never see Hilary in office. Others voted because they are Republicans and a Republican president, even Donald Trump, would help achieve their policy goals.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:03 PM   #32
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You've got to provide some backup to the claim that his base is shrinking.

I know quite a few and they are quite educated and certainly not racists. Some voted for Trump because they would never see Hilary in office. Others voted because they are Republicans and a Republican president, even Donald Trump, would help achieve their policy goals.
that would be me!

and yeah, from what I gather, Trump's base is as firm as it was 2 years ago.. it almost has to be, to keep his total level of support where it is.

these guys don't realize they are reading the post of a man who predicted the Cowboys would win last night!
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:12 PM   #33
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that would be me!

and yeah, from what I gather, Trump's base is as firm as it was 2 years ago.. it almost has to be, to keep his total level of support where it is.

these guys don't realize they are reading the post of a man who predicted the Cowboys would win last night!
Well i could vote for neither but i think the swing voters who elected Trump will not vote for Trump twoce without Clinton being his opposite
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:23 PM   #34
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The trump base is shrinking and now only consist of the most deplorable deplorables. Any trump supporters that were not deplorables or uneducated have fled the Republican Party that now has as its leader a criminal Racist homophobe. The republican part will never recover from trump. Trumps base at this point is irrelevant.
I dislike Trump, but most of the people I hang around adore him. You substitute "Hillary Clinton" for "Donald Trump", "socialist" for "racist," etc. and they say much the same thing as you. The Democrats believe Donald Trump is a criminal and want to lock him up. The Republicans believe Hillary Clinton is a criminal and want to lock her up. This is not healthy for democracy.

That said, to Hillary's credit, she's never to my knowledge said anything about putting Donald behind bars. On the other hand Trump's attitude towards Hillary is like a populist leader of a banana republic -- throw your political opponent in jail. Fortunately the Justice Department, Congress and the judicial branch will keep him corralled.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:24 PM   #35
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that would be me!

and yeah, from what I gather, Trump's base is as firm as it was 2 years ago.. it almost has to be, to keep his total level of support where it is.

these guys don't realize they are reading the post of a man who predicted the Cowboys would win last night!

All the credit should go to Tara.

Trumps base if anything is expanding. People who thought he would do irreparable harm now think the harm has been done so they lose nothing by supporting him.

As I said before, if Hilary is given the democratic nod in 2020, even though if Trump were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to help put the fire out, Ill vote for him this time.

I'm sure there are people who hate the fucker far less than I do too.
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Well i could vote for neither but i think the swing voters who elected Trump will not vote for Trump twoce without Clinton being his opposite
absolutely!

the Democrats need to understand that the era of Biden, Sanders and Clinton is over. the 2018 Governor and House gains were due to a new and younger breed.


Clinton in 2016 was like Dole for the Republicans in 1996. "we don't have anyone else, and everyone knows this legacy politician"..


yes, but they both had a shelf life that was not understood at the time.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:30 PM   #37
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absolutely!

the Democrats need to understand that the era of Biden, Sanders and Clinton is over. the 2018 Governor and House gains were due to a new and younger breed.


Clinton in 2016 was like Dole for the Republicans in 1996. "we don't have anyone else, and everyone knows this legacy politician"..


yes, but they both had a shelf life that was not understood at the time.

would you vote for Trump again if the Dems nominate "Clinton 2.0" ..





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Old 11-30-2018, 04:34 PM   #38
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All the credit should go to Tara.

if Hilary is given the democratic nod in 2020, even though if Trump were on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to help put the fire out, Ill vote for him this time.
yes, Tara had a lot to do with your winning prediction!

there's going to be guys in this thread.. "what the Fuck does the 'Gone with the Wind' Plantation have to do with the Cowboys' victory? is that some Jerry Jones voodoo shit"?


I hope Hillary is removed from any 2020 discussion, soon. this is stupid. yes Waco, I would take Trump over 2.0
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:43 PM   #39
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I hope Hillary is removed from any 2020 discussion, soon. this is stupid. yes Waco, I would take Trump over 2.0
You've got other options, Green Party, Libertarian Party, etc.

Btw, sorry, some time ago I lit into you for saying something I disagreed with, I don't even remember what. I regret that, you're always a gentleman and I was not.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:44 PM   #40
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You've got to provide some backup to the claim that his base is shrinking.

I know quite a few and they are quite educated and certainly not racists. Some voted for Trump because they would never see Hilary in office. Others voted because they are Republicans and a Republican president, even Donald Trump, would help achieve their policy goals.
I guess it depends on how you define Trump's "base". Anyone who voted for him in 2016 or the subset that will support him through thick and thin no matter what.

If it's the latter, then no, Trump has lost none of his base. His mainline supporters are as devoted as ever. However, regarding the former, I think that either many people who voted for Trump in 2016 abandoned him, or many who did not vote in 2016 for whatever reason came out in 2018. More likely the former.

From what I have read, the biggest losses by Republicans were in the suburbs and among women voters, primarily college educated women. The only demographics that totally support Trump seem to be old white men without a college degree and evangelicals. There are other demographics where Trump is about 50-50 but not many. It will be a very interesting next 2 years.

"Three clear patterns emerge from this data. First, Democrats did better with white women than white men. Second, Democrats did significantly better with college-educated whites than non-college-educated whites. Third, the South is different: Republicans did far better with whites of all different sorts of backgrounds there than they did anywhere else in the country.

When you pile these patterns in the white vote on top of the now-familiar racial divides — CNN’s exit poll shows Democrats winning 90 percent of black voters, 69 percent of Latino voters, and 77 percent of Asian voters — you get a clear sense of what lead to last night’s results: Democrats winning big with minorities and educated whites.

But this isn’t just a race and educational divide — it’s also a regional one. Another Schaffner chart, on the suburbs, helped clarify how stark the regional differences are. The suburbs, home to many educated whites, are historically Republican bastions. But in 2018, suburban voters broke for Democrats — with the South, once again, the sole exception."


https://www.vox.com/midterm-election...s-race-surburb
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The free press is the enemy of the people according to twit head. Ban all that seek the truth of the trump mission of greed and self interest. The deplorables love him though cause he gave them a tax cut lol
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:25 PM   #42
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I will give you a much scarier senario tha Pence.

If something happened to both President Trump and Vice President Pence, Nancy Peloci, the incoming Speaker of the House, is next in line.

The Horror, The Horror
What has she done that has caused horror? If you're like most of us you couldn't tell me either way without google searching. Even then it would take a bit of research for most of us. What exactly has she done to make the far right hate her so much? Obamacare?
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What has she done that has caused horror? If you're like most of us you couldn't tell me either way without google searching. Even then it would take a bit of research for most of us. What exactly has she done to make the far right hate her so much? Obamacare?
It's her extreme partisanship combined with her demeanor. She lies through her teeth all the while with a huge smile on her face. Harry Reid and George Mitchell are other Democratic leaders who fit this mold. This combination isn't as common among Republicans, but Tom DeLay and perhaps Donald Trump are examples on the other side. Trump isn't as sanctimonious as the rest but he lies more.
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It's her extreme partisanship combined with her demeanor. She lies through her teeth all the while with a huge smile on her face. Harry Reid and George Mitchell are other Democratic leaders who fit this mold. This combination isn't as common among Republicans, but Tom DeLay and perhaps Donald Trump are examples on the other side. Trump isn't as sanctimonious as the rest but he lies more.
I could see that. Great explanation Tiny.
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:08 PM   #45
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I could see that. Great explanation Tiny.
You will never understand trump.

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