P411 is it worth it

[White Tiger]

I have also been on P411 for about 10 years. This year my membership expired while I was out of town and I couldn't use it to hook up where I was and I didn't have references in the town I was staying, so it reinforced for me how valuable P411 is for guys that travel. I believe P411 is Texas-oriented, but over the last few years, the number and quality of providers on the site, not just in Texas, but all around the country, has dramatically improved in my opinion--and I watch very closely as I travel constantly. In addition to Dallas/Fort Worth area, I have used P411 in Houston, El Paso, San Antonio, Austin, CA, AZ, NM, CO, WA, IA, IL, DC, FL, NC. In my opinion, although no system is completely safe, P411 gives you the most security. I have never had a whisper of a problem with any P411 registered provider. I always send a P411 request first to let the provider see my okays and take advantage of any price discount. which is common--then I text or call from the number in the P411 appointment request, once my identity is proven. It's a very good system.

[GinaXXX]

Quick clarification-- if one offers a P411 discount of say $50... but their rate before discount is $25 higher than another venue (meaning after discount, it would be $25 lower)-- is that a violation? It isn't critical at this moment, my P411 is disabled until I'm off my medical leave... but more of a question going forward.

Charging P411 clients more, even if there is a (fake) "discount" that brings the P411 rate into line with (or even lower than, which would be exceedingly rare) other advertised rates, is absolutely unacceptable.

The listed hourly rate on P411 needs to be equivalent to the lowest hourly rate charged elsewhere. If a provider wishes to offer P411 clients an additional discount, that is fantastic and greatly appreciated by all.

However, we ask that providers refrain from jacking the rate up and then discounting it, as we still consider that charging P411 clients more (even if it comes out to be the same, or less, with the discount). Clients do notice this type of thing, and it leaves a bad taste in their mouths about P411. If P411 gets a reputation of being the place where providers charge more, it just drives the clients to other sites. This does nothing for P411 or for the providers who do list their best rates on P411.

That said, I would like to say a huge THANK YOU to those providers who don't play this type of game with their rates, and who give legitimate discounts to P411 client members. The good clients deserve a break, if anything!

I do appreciate the opportunity to clarify publicly, so that both providers and clients are aware of our position, so thanks for that.

Always,
Gina

[Grace Preston]

I haven't played that kind of rate game.. it was more of a curiosity as I like to keep up to date files on the requirements of each site that I advertise on-- so that I don't violate rules. In the past, I have ran a special deal here without changing my rate on P411-- as I had thought in the past that it was ok as long as it wasn't a permanent rate change. Now that I know otherwise, that practice won't occur in the future, if there is one.

[GinaXXX]

Originally Posted by GracePreston

I haven't played that kind of rate game.. it was more of a curiosity as I like to keep up to date files on the requirements of each site that I advertise on-- so that I don't violate rules.

My comments weren't directed at you, they were directed to all providers. I was only answering your question.

Always
Gina

[Grace Preston]

Thanks for the clarification. I do appreciate it!

[whitechocolate]

P411 is definitely invaluable to clients and providers!!

[FemiLove]

I have met some outstanding clients off P411 and screening is so quick!!

[SteveOTX]

Its not always worth it. They have banned provider accounts there in the past

[mikeindfwtx]

Useful and totally worth it.

[pyramider]

Gee, I wonder why?

[Grace Preston]

Gina is so easy to work with. It takes a special kind of stupid to get banned on P411.

[L.A.]

I've been on P411 since just about the beginning and it was super easy because I was a somewhat frequent PC customer (only agency I ever trusted)
I used it back then and still use it now. About as good as it gets in my opinion.

And I agree that you have to be a complete and utter fucking idiot to get banned from P411 (or ECCIE for that matter).

[goodjohn]

Being seen is so much easier with P411.

Often I have confirmation of a request for a date within the hour with P411

[KaitlynDior]

I think p411 is your best bet I like it because it's easy to verify references fast

[zont]

Originally Posted by KaitlynDior

I think p411 is your best bet I like it because it's easy to verify references fast

I agree 100% - this has proven to be the main benefit I have seen from my p411 membership - glad to see that a lady sees it the same way. It is so much easier than sending references and waiting around to hear while the lady, in turn, waits around to hear from the ladies referenced.

Some ladies will check references anyway - p411 or no p411. They may or may not tell you and they may or may not really do it. For any security situation, not just here, I recommend mixing up the procedure from case to case - makes it harder for the bad guys to game the system