She's not qualified, he's not qualified, who is qualified?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

All the candidates are like Trump. For any of us to have a stout belief in any one of them makes us nothing but chumps, lol.

Jim

Originally Posted by Ex-CEO

You got that right!

I hardly see how anyone could vote for any of these people without feeling guilty or foolish, and equally difficult to understand how anybody could support any of the two major party's candidates with fervor.

So, I imagine it will be, for most people, all about voting for whomever you perceive as the less bad of two wholly unsuitable choices, according to what your ideological bent may be.

Or just say "fuck you" to the two major parties and vote for the Libertarian. Especially if you vote in a state that's not in play.

that, unfortunately, is how it's been for far too long in the Country, you vote for the least worse candidate offered. sometimes crossing your party line to do it. I've never voted democrat in any election, ever. and i'm not likely to start now. but i can't say that until i know who the nominees are.

many things Trump says are correct in my opinion, like illegal immigration and trade. in some things he's really a liberal at heart and it shows like his comments on abortion. one of his problems is that even when he says things that are correct, about issues facing the country, he does it in such a way that it's incendiary and turns off many voters.

let's say Trump and Clinton are the major party nominees .. if so then this will be by far the strongest evidence of people voting for Candidate A to vote against Candidate B, and vice versa. EVER.

who would i vote for in that scenario? Trump. not even a choice to consider there. Clinton MUST NOT become President. the Clinton gang, her, Slick Willie Blythe and that bastard bitch of a daughter are criminals.

now let's say it's Cruz and Sanders. which is a real possibility given Clinton's high likelihood of being forced out of the race if she's indicted many politico's and not all conservative, many liberal's as well are calling for her to end her campaign over this. she won't of course because that bitch is even more arrogant and narcissistic than Trump. While Cruz has basically the exact same stance on illegal immigration as Trump, he's a religious nut. he'd do whatever he could to outlaw all abortions, for any reason. including forcible rape and risk of the mother's life. that is absolutely sick.
Cruz claims he's an "outsider". HA!. he's got his head up Goldman Sach's asshole. why is that not illegal he didn't disclose that loan? anyway, while Sanders would probably give every illegal in this Country amnesty, without any penalty for it at all .. and he's a socialist, if it was Cruz v Sanders i'd actually consider Sanders. normally i wouldn't waste 5 seconds on that but in this case i would.

one thing about Trump is that for a man that claims he's such a sharp businessman, he's a political novice and it shows. Cruz is out-maneuvering him on the ground. Trump didn't bother to get the right people on his team that know how elections are won, and how the delegate process works. His is trying to do that now, but it might be too late. He's likely caused himself to lose at a brokered convention, and he really has no one to blame but himself. he should have brought in top notch politicos from the start and he might have avoided a brokered convention. at the least, he would have avoided having Cruz "planting" delegates from Louisiana and Tennessee and who knows where else that will turn on Trump after the first ballot.

Trump, win or lose at the convention or the general election, is doing one thing that is absolutely needed in this country. He's exposing the money behind typical politicians.
Unless you have the kind of money he has, and Perot did, you can't run a campaign without taking PAC money. which means you are beholden to that money. you'll do what they tell you to do. if you don't, you'll be a "one-and-done". they'll take their dollars elsewhere next election cycle and unless your approval ratings are sky-high you'll get "out-monied" next election.

Sanders is also exposing this. but this isn't anything anyone should find shocking. it's been there in our faces for decades if not even longer. i'm sure we all know that, in the late 19th century, the three richest men in the Nation, J.P. Morgan, John Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, flat-out bought the Presidency. they conspired to prevent William Jennings Bryan from winning the election. of course Carnegie in a later national election broke ranks with Morgan and Rockefeller and aligned with Bryan. no honor among thieves eh?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

that, unfortunately, is how it's been for far too long in the Country, you vote for the least worse candidate offered. sometimes crossing your party line to do it. I've never voted democrat in any election, ever. and i'm not likely to start now. but i can't say that until i know who the nominees are.

many things Trump says are correct in my opinion, like illegal immigration and trade. in some things he's really a liberal at heart and it shows like his comments on abortion. one of his problems is that even when he says things that are correct, about issues facing the country, he does it in such a way that it's incendiary and turns off many voters.

let's say Trump and Clinton are the major party nominees .. if so then this will be by far the strongest evidence of people voting for Candidate A to vote against Candidate B, and vice versa. EVER.

who would i vote for in that scenario? Trump. not even a choice to consider there. Clinton MUST NOT become President. the Clinton gang, her, Slick Willie Blythe and that bastard bitch of a daughter are criminals.

now let's say it's Cruz and Sanders. which is a real possibility given Clinton's high likelihood of being forced out of the race if she's indicted many politico's and not all conservative, many liberal's as well are calling for her to end her campaign over this. she won't of course because that bitch is even more arrogant and narcissistic than Trump. While Cruz has basically the exact same stance on illegal immigration as Trump, he's a religious nut. he'd do whatever he could to outlaw all abortions, for any reason. including forcible rape and risk of the mother's life. that is absolutely sick.
Cruz claims he's an "outsider". HA!. he's got his head up Goldman Sach's asshole. why is that not illegal he didn't disclose that loan? anyway, while Sanders would probably give every illegal in this Country amnesty, without any penalty for it at all .. and he's a socialist, if it was Cruz v Sanders i'd actually consider Sanders. normally i wouldn't waste 5 seconds on that but in this case i would.

one thing about Trump is that for a man that claims he's such a sharp businessman, he's a political novice and it shows. Cruz is out-maneuvering him on the ground. Trump didn't bother to get the right people on his team that know how elections are won, and how the delegate process works. His is trying to do that now, but it might be too late. He's likely caused himself to lose at a brokered convention, and he really has no one to blame but himself. he should have brought in top notch politicos from the start and he might have avoided a brokered convention. at the least, he would have avoided having Cruz "planting" delegates from Louisiana and Tennessee and who knows where else that will turn on Trump after the first ballot.

Trump, win or lose at the convention or the general election, is doing one thing that is absolutely needed in this country. He's exposing the money behind typical politicians.
Unless you have the kind of money he has, and Perot did, you can't run a campaign without taking PAC money. which means you are beholden to that money. you'll do what they tell you to do. if you don't, you'll be a "one-and-done". they'll take their dollars elsewhere next election cycle and unless your approval ratings are sky-high you'll get "out-monied" next election.

Sanders is also exposing this. but this isn't anything anyone should find shocking. it's been there in our faces for decades if not even longer. i'm sure we all know that, in the late 19th century, the three richest men in the Nation, J.P. Morgan, John Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie, flat-out bought the Presidency. they conspired to prevent William Jennings Bryan from winning the election. of course Carnegie in a later national election broke ranks with Morgan and Rockefeller and aligned with Bryan. no honor among thieves eh?

I grew up in Carnegie Pa, still live close by. Home of Honus Wagner too.

Fuckn Andrew Carnegie

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by bambino

I grew up in Carnegie Pa, still live close by. Home of Honus Wagner too.

Fuckn Andrew Carnegie

I remember when it was said that America is " Home To the free and The Brave" Well it still is if you have four legs and wonder aimlessly about the forest. For the rest of us it's becoming a Fucking Place, lol.


Jim

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Give credit to where it's due. I brought up George H.W. Bush when I opened this thread.
I also don't see why would you disqualify a good candidate because they belonged to a major party anymore than someone would disqualify someone was black, female, or libertarian.

You don't get it. After all this time. The major parties are OWNED by the 0.001%. There is no substantive difference between the two parties. The differences you see are cosmetic. GHWB was the ultimate Establishment candidate. Anyone who gets a major party nomination is in the pocket of the party's owners. Otherwise they don't get the nomination. It's a show. Fun to watch, fun to try to guess what's going to happen. Will Jon Snow be back this season? What will happen to King Tommen? Fun to think about, but someone knows already. Just like Game of Thrones, this election is a show. We just watch it play out as the writers planned it. But the ending is already decided. We just have to watch the show to find out how it ends.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You don't get it. After all this time. The major parties are OWNED by the 0.001%. There is no substantive difference between the two parties. The differences you see are cosmetic. GHWB was the ultimate Establishment candidate. Anyone who gets a major party nomination is in the pocket of the party's owners. Otherwise they don't get the nomination. It's a show. Fun to watch, fun to try to guess what's going to happen. Will Jon Snow be back this season? What will happen to King Tommen? Fun to think about, but someone knows already. Just like Game of Thrones, this election is a show. We just watch it play out as the writers planned it. But the ending is already decided. We just have to watch the show to find out how it ends.

Unfortunately you are right. The MSM and the Entertainment industry is their weapon against us. For example a popular celebrity endorses a candidate we feel we should too. What we hear on the MSM outlets then it must be legit. They are just playing a role and we are bamboozled. Nothing will ever change until our attitudes change.

Jim

[southtown4488]

if they had any dignity they would talk about how one has small hands and thus small genitals, or tweet pics of their spouses showing how their opponents spouse is not as hot as theirs. hahahaha

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by southtown4488

if they had any dignity they would talk about how one has small hands and thus small genitals, or tweet pics of their spouses showing how their opponents spouse is not as hot as theirs. hahahaha

well. suckclown the uberlib cruises through and as usual says nothing of value.

you should know, clown, that this isn't even close to real no-holds barred negativity.

these type of attacks have been part of US politics .. since the beginning of US politics.

compared to the election of 1800 the candidates of 2016 are treating each other with kid gloves.

The Election of 1800: The Birth of Negative Campaigning in the U.S.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/19668...campaigning-us

some samples ..

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."� In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."� As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward.

The Dirtiest Presidential Campaign Ever? Not Even Close!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga.../#4259a2c33fea

a John Adams supporter, who publically suggested that were Jefferson to become the president, “we would see our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution.”

The concern was amplified by an influential—and highly partisan—Connecticut newspaper’s warning that electing Jefferson would create a nation where “murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will openly be taught and practiced.”


And that was the soft stuff.

Callender wrote that Adams was a rageful, lying, warmongering fellow; a “repulsive pedant” and “gross hypocrite” who “behaved neither like a man nor like a woman but instead possessed a hideous hermaphroditical character.”

The campaign of 1800 set the standard for dirty presidential campaigns in America‑one that would be taken to new heights during the election of 1828.


The race was between President John Quincy Adams and his challenger, military hero Andrew Jackson. By the time Jackson prevailed in the race, the headlines would be filled with charges of murder, adultery, and pimping—headlines printed in highly partisan newspapers that make amply clear that today’s media has nothing on our ancestors when it comes to pursuing a political agenda.

During the historic debates between Steohen Douglas and the man who would become one of the nation’s most revered presidents, Abraham Lincoln, Douglas accused Lincoln of being a drunk—stating that the future emancipator could “ruin more liquor than all the boys in town together.”

[IIFFOFRDB]

Kill the goPEE... FUCKEM! TRUMP/2016!

[i'va biggen]

http://static2.politico.com/dims4/de...p-1160-gty.jpg

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

http://static2.politico.com/dims4/de...p-1160-gty.jpg

I'm sure you were born thru LBJ's bowels, I hope this gives you comfort... little "buzzard head" ekimomo...

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

I'm sure you were born thru LBJ's bowels, I hope this gives you comfort. little ekimomo...

Suck up some more Trump gas whiffy

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Couldn't find any RINO Kasich toons, evidently he's unimportant? little ekimomo from the bowels of LBJ...

LOLing you ekimomo...

[i'va biggen]

Have a cool drink whiffy!!!

[DSK]

Originally Posted by bambino

I grew up in Carnegie Pa, still live close by. Home of Honus Wagner too.

Fuckn Andrew Carnegie

Honus Wagner was a fine ballplayer. A real man, unlike Asswipe the pig, who couldn't even get a place on the girls team - girls hate filthy dead dicked pigs, especially those who can't even hit a slow pitched softball.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by DSK

Honus Wagner was a fine ballplayer. A real man, unlike Asswipe the pig, who couldn't even get a place on the girls team - girls hate filthy dead dicked pigs, especially those who can't even hit a slow pitched softball.

Hell, asuup whiffs when he swings at TEE ball ! The balls at the gloryholes are the only ones he's successful at "playing " with !