paranoid about le? why?

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

Bubba,

So when guys like FWOG agreed to create and post a review in exchange for a session, that would clearly fall under the definition that Shysterjon provided in your post even though no money ever changed hands.

Clearly? Laz, there's no such thing as "clearly" when you're interpreting a statute. "Fee" and "for hire" under the Texas prostitution statute mean something of value given to a person who sells sex for a living. I guess it's within the range of my wild imagine to speculate a trial in which the fee was a review, but I'm odd because I can also envision blue monkeys flying out my butt. In other words, it's highly unlikely the DA would pursue a case against a provider when the only fee was a review.

[LazurusLong]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

Clearly? Laz, there's no such thing as "clearly" when you're interpreting a statute. "Fee" and "for hire" under the Texas prostitution statute mean something of value given to a person who sells sex for a living. I guess it's within the range of my wild imagine to speculate a trial in which the fee was a review, but I'm odd because I can also envision blue monkeys flying out my butt. In other words, it's highly unlikely the DA would pursue a case against a provider when the only fee was a review.

But SJ,

Isn't it also true that the standard fine for a first prostitution offense is around $450 and looking at the jailbase website where you can search by offense and see who is locked up, I doubt many who get actually arrested/cited for simply prostitution without any other additional charges such as things we can't talk about, would rather pay the fine and get back to work? Even looking at the DPD site where they show a lot of names of people cited for that, how many actually bother to get an attorney and fight the citation?

I'm guessing it is a numbers game and for a huge percentage of citations, the vast number do not fight it. They pay the ticket and get back to work ASAP. So the DA has plenty of time and resources to present something like that to prove a point and especially in an election year, the inclination to make headlines that shows they are doing SOMETHING about what society thinks of as a scourge against society and women.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

But SJ,

Isn't it also true that the standard fine for a first prostitution offense is around $450 and looking at the jailbase website where you can search by offense and see who is locked up, I doubt many who get actually arrested/cited for simply prostitution without any other additional charges such as things we can't talk about, would rather pay the fine and get back to work? Even looking at the DPD site where they show a lot of names of people cited for that, how many actually bother to get an attorney and fight the citation?

I'm guessing it is a numbers game and for a huge percentage of citations, the vast number do not fight it. They pay the ticket and get back to work ASAP. So the DA has plenty of time and resources to present something like that to prove a point and especially in an election year, the inclination to make headlines that shows they are doing SOMETHING about what society thinks of as a scourge against society and women.

Before I answer, are you sure we're talking about the same offense? In Texas, first-offense prostitution is a class B misdemeanor punishable by up to 180 days in county jail and a $2,000 fine. The offense is not charged by a "ticket" or "citation." Are you sure you're not talking about manifestation of prostitution, which is a class C misdemeanor city ticket?

[LazurusLong]

SJ,

I don't have the experience of dealing with those who have been cited so I am not sure.

Take an LMT who gets popped when she touches the dick of an undercover cop, what would she typically be cited for?

Or those who get lured into stings like were happening in the lead up to the Super Bowl. What would they be cited for as long as there were no additional charges?

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by LazurusLong

SJ,

I don't have the experience of dealing with those who have been cited so I am not sure.

Take an LMT who gets popped when she touches the dick of an undercover cop, what would she typically be cited for?

Or those who get lured into stings like were happening in the lead up to the Super Bowl. What would they be cited for as long as there were no additional charges?

In both your examples, the defendant would be charged with prostitution.

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If you are at the point of arguing semantics of the law on prostitution, you have already reached a point where your family, your career, and your future are probably in a bit of a pickle.

[workoutjunkie]

your not defeated, you apparently have nothing better to do...............

[ShysterJon]

Hey, workoutjunkie! Do YOU have nothing better to do than bump a thread more than four months old with a snarky comment?