Who is worse, the Saudi's or Iranians?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

Yet you have no problem Trump spending our tax dollars to protect Saudi refineries?

Actually, the Saudis reimburse us for a big chunk of the costs. Funny how you and your trump-hating buddies criticize him for that too!

Maybe you ought to get together with your lib-retard pal sissy chap and make up your minds! One of you is off message!

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2692023

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by WTF

How many Iranians were connected to 9/11?

How many Iranians we we Training who then turned around and killed our military personnel in Florida?

Yet Trump defends the bastards against Iran. He should arm Iran and unleash them on the Saudi's.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ues/ar-BBZ5fXo

They are both Arabs so it's just a matter of opinion. I wouldn't turn my back on either of them.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

They are both Arabs so it's just a matter of opinion. I wouldn't turn my back on either of them.

Most Iranians are Persian, not Arab.

[oeb11]

They have been at war and killing each other for thousands of years - long before islam/

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Most Iranians are Persian, not Arab.

Both groups are Muslim. Similar ideologies and life style. The major difference is language.

[oeb11]

difference - Iranians are Shia - considered heretic by the Sunni Wahabist Saudis - both very fundamentalist Islamists - and at each others throats since the bitter fight over the successor to Mohammed.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Both groups are Muslim. Similar ideologies and life style. The major difference is language.

Ethnically they are different. Plus they belong to two distinct and competing Muslim sects - Shia and Sunni. If you don't understand that, you can't understand anything about the Middle East. Look up the Battle of Karbala.

[Jaxson66]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I doubt that any day in the future the WimpSocialistLiberalAntiTrumpe rs will recognize just how hypocritical the little tarts are as they stumble along the low ground trying to project ALL OF THEIR BULLSHIT on the current administration ...... The little puke chastising former acquaintances for getting popped for "insider trading" while the current batch of gutless wonders are coddling rapists and pedophiles.

And yet the fat lying bastards dream team consists of Dershowitz who has represented Epstein, Starr who impeached a president for copping a blow job, and Pam Bundi who refused to prosecute trump university in Florida.

Then there’s Sekelow who Parnas has alleged was in the know about the shakedown. But the hypocrisy lies to left....yeah sure.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Ethnically they are different. Plus they belong to two distinct and competing Muslim sects - Shia and Sunni. If you don't understand that, you can't understand anything about the Middle East. Look up the Battle of Karbala.

It's really not that big of deal. What's funny about this thread though is WTF thinks we should choose, lol. I don't think either group are fans of America and I think that's what really counts.

[Jaxson66]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

WTF knows NOTHING about me personally, yet he still shoots off his fat lips like he knows it all. HoseHummer is his twin at Nau's Drug, where the stalls are a Roladex of WTF_HoseHummer phone numbers for a date. That's why the fountain stools look so slick daily ..... wet vinyl from their seepage.

And you complain about hypocrisy

You’re in the top 10 of ECCIE hypocrites.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Jaxson66

And yet the fat lying bastards dream team consists of Dershowitz who has represented Epstein, Starr who impeached a president for copping a blow job, and Pam Bundi who refused to prosecute trump university in Florida.

Then there’s Sekelow who Parnas has alleged was in the know about the shakedown. But the hypocrisy lies to left....yeah sure.

The Dems started this whole Impeachment craze. They haven't been able to come up with actual impeachable offenses so fuck'em.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Ethnically they are different. Plus they belong to two distinct and competing Muslim sects - Shia and Sunni. If you don't understand that, you can't understand anything about the Middle East. Look up the Battle of Karbala.

thanx for the link. looked it up.


I was aware of the split that occurred after muhammed's death between 2 muhammed relatives. didn't know about the battle that really kicked the split in high gear.


now that was a hot fucking mess.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jaxson66

And yet the fat lying bastards dream team consists of Dershowitz who has represented Epstein, Starr who impeached a president for copping a blow job, and Pam Bundi who refused to prosecute trump university in Florida.

Then there’s Sekelow who Parnas has alleged was in the know about the shakedown. But the hypocrisy lies to left....yeah sure.

This post demonstrates just how stupid you are and the reason why you believe being a RETIRED captain in a local (very local) fire department is a big deal as you sop up on the TAXPAYERS' TITS.

Let's just start with "Dershowitz" ..... he shit more substance yesterday than you ever had between your ears .....

.... so you hate Jews, too, as well as hate lawyers who represent Blacks!!!!!

Ken Star didn't "impeach" anyone! More stupidity and dumbass on your part!!!

BTW Bill Predator Clinton was not "impeached" for getting a blow job ....

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/hi...t_articles.htm

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
ARTICLE I




The House Judiciary Committee Republicans proposed four articles of impeachment against President William Jefferson Clinton. Here is the final version of Article I, preceded by the Impeachment Resolution. On December 11, 1998, the House Judiciary Committee voted 21-16 to approve this Article, and recommend the impeachment of President Clinton.

RESOLUTION



Impeaching William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Resolved. That William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors, and that the following articles impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

Articles of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

ARTICLE I



In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impeding the administration of justice, in that:

On August 17, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton swore to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth before a Federal grand jury of the United States. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury concerning one or more of the following:

(1) the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate Government employee;

(2) prior perjurious, false and misleading testimony he gave in a Federal civil rights action brought against him;

(3) prior false and misleading statements he allowed his attorney to make to a Federal judge in that civil rights action; and

(4) his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of witnesses and to impede the discovery of evidence in that civil rights action.

In doing this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.





ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
ARTICLE II
The House Judiciary Committee Republicans proposed four articles of impeachment against President William Jefferson Clinton. Here is the final version of Article II, preceded by the Impeachment Resolution. On December 11, 1998, the House Judiciary Committee voted 20-17 to approve this Article, and recommend the impeachment of President Clinton.

ARTICLE II



In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain and exoneration, impending the administration of justice, in that:

(1) On December 23, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton, in sworn answers to written questions asked as part of a Federal civil rights action brought against him, willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony in response to questions deemed relevant by a Federal judge concerning conduct and proposed conduct with subordinate employees.

(2) On January 17, 1988, William Jefferson Clinton swore under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in a deposition given as part of a Federal civil rights action brought against him. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony in repose to questions deemed relevant by a Federal judge concerning the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate government employee and his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of that employee.

In all of this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.



ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
ARTICLE III


The House Judiciary Committee Republicans proposed four articles of impeachment against President William Jefferson Clinton. Here is the final version of Article III, preceded by the Impeachment Resolution. On December 11, 1998, the House Judiciary Committee voted 21-16 to approve this Article, and recommend the impeachment of President Clinton.

ARTICLE III



In his conduct while President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, and has to that end engaged personally, and through his subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or scheme designed to delay, impede, cover up, and conceal the existence of evidence and testimony related to a Federal civil rights action brought against him in a duly instituted judicial proceeding.

The means used to implement this course of conduct or scheme included one or more of the following acts:

(1) On or about December 17, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly encouraged a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him to execute a sworn affidavit in that proceeding that he knew to be perjurious, false and misleading.

(2) On or about December 17, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly encouraged a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him to give perjurious, false and misleading testimony if and when called to testify personally in that proceeding.

(3)On or about December 28, 1997, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly engaged in, encouraged, or supported a scheme to conceal evidence that had been subpoenaed in a Federal civil rights action brought against him.

(4)Beginning on or about December 7, 1997, and continuing through and including January 14, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton intensified and succeeded in an effort to secure job assistance to a witness in a Federal civil rights action brought against him in order to corruptly prevent the truthful testimony of that witness in that proceeding at a time when the truthful testimony of that witness would have been harmful to him.

(5) On January 17, 1998, at his deposition in a Federal civil rights action brought against him, William Jefferson Clinton corruptly allowed his attorney to make false and misleading statements to a Federal judge characterizing an affidavit, in order to prevent questioning deemed relevant by the judge. Such false and misleading statements were subsequently acknowledged by his attorney in a communication to that judge.

(6) On or about January 18 and January 20-21, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton related a false and misleading account of events relevant to a Federal civil rights action brought against him to a potential witness in that proceeding, in order to corruptly influence the testimony of that witness.

(7) On or about January 21, 23 and 26, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton made false and misleading statements to potential witnesses in a Federal grand jury proceeding in order to corruptly influence the testimony of those witnesses. The false and misleading statements made by William Jefferson Clinton were repeated by the witnesses to the grand jury, causing the grand jury to receive false and misleading information.

In all of this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.



ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT
ARTICLE IV




The House Judiciary Committee Republicans proposed four articles of impeachment against President William Jefferson Clinton. Here is the final version of Article IV, preceded by the Impeachment Resolution. During the debate on this Article, on December 12, 1998, Rep. Gekas offered an amendment, that was adopted by the Judiciary Committee, to delete the first three paragraphs of the proposed Article. The House Judiciary Committee then approved this modified Article by a vote of 21-16.

ARTICLE IV



Using the powers and influence of the office of President of the United States, William Jefferson Clinton, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has engaged in conduct that resulted in misuse and abuse of his high office, impaired the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, and contravened the authority of the legislative branch and the truth-seeking purpose of a coordinate investigative proceeding in that, as President, William Jefferson Clinton, refused and failed to respond to certain written requests for admission and willfully made perjurious, false and misleading sworn statements in response to certain written requests for admission propounded to him as part of the impeachment inquiry authorized by the House of Representatives of the Congress of the United States.

William Jefferson Clinton, in refusing and failing to respond, and in making perjurious, false and misleading statements, assumed to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the Constitution in the House of Representatives and exhibited contempt for the inquiry.

In doing this, William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, William Jefferson Clinton, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.

See if you can find "blow job" in there somewhere ....

.... you've now proven why you are the dumbest ass on here ... even dumber than HoesHummer .... DRINK SOME MORE BEER!

This is YOUR MAN: THE FAT LYING BASTARD of the 20th Century.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070620...nton.contempt/

Clinton found in civil contempt for Jones testimony
April 12, 1999
Web posted at: 7:24 p.m. EDT (2324 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, April 12) -- U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright found President Bill Clinton in civil contempt of court Monday for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit.

Wright has referred her ruling to the Arkansas Supreme Court to see if any disciplinary action should be taken, CNN has learned.

"Simply put, the president's deposition testimony regarding whether he had ever been alone with Ms. (Monica) Lewinsky was intentionally false and his statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false," the judge wrote of Clinton's January 17, 1998 deposition.

Wright also ordered Clinton to pay Jones "any reasonable expenses including attorneys' fees caused by his willful failure to obey this court's discovery orders," directing Jones' lawyers to submit an accounting of their expenses and fees within 20 days.

She also ruled Clinton must reimburse to the court $1,202 for the judge's travel expenses. Wright traveled to Washington at Clinton's request to preside over what she now calls "his tainted deposition."

"The court takes no pleasure whatsoever in holding this nation's president in contempt of court," the 32-page opinion read.

Referring to the professional rule that states it is misconduct for a lawyer to engage in conduct involving "dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation," Wright also referred matter to the Arkansas Supreme Court's Committee on Professional Conduct to review Clinton's action and impose any disciplinary action it thinks is appropriate, including possible disbarment as a lawyer.

I highly recommend you staying on the porch.

[Jackie S]

The difference between Sunni and Shia is no big deal???

This hatred for each other is what drives much of the violence inside the Muslim World.

You all need to get your heads out of your asses. The fundamental reason for most of the terroristic violence in the world today centers around Muslims and their radical fundamental beliefs.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

The difference between Sunni and Shia is no big deal???

This hatred for each other is what drives much of the violence inside the Muslim World.

You all need to get your heads out of your asses. The fundamental reason for most of the terroristic violence in the world today centers around Muslims and their radical fundamental beliefs.

Some of the posters on here tossing Middle Easterners in the same bucket also toss North, Central, and Southern American inhabitants with brown skin in the same bucket also .... they call them "Mexicans"!

It is rather revealing of ignorance to do so and pretend one "knows" based on some anecdotal remarks. Conflicts have arisen in this country ("the United States of America") over preferences and mores of various geographical regions .... 2020 .... is an excellent example of the conflicts ....

... to much emphasis (IMO) is put on "religious" differences in the Middle Eastern conflicts, and I figure that's because it's easier to explain and it simplifies solutions. It happens when "pundits" address social and political differences in this country ..... and it has grown to the point in the U.S. that it's really a marginalization and ridicule .... "the Christian Right" .... etc., etc.

Some of you should inquire of yourselves ....

What was the most important natural resource in the Middle East 2,000 years ago? 5,000 years ago?