Criminal !!! - The federal government is actively preventing the effective distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments in the U.S.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Aww gristle, is berry getting under your skin? Try to keep things in perspective. So what if berry sometimes lets his anti-Biden zeal get the better of him?

Even at his worst he's not nearly as wildly hysterical, totally beyond the reach of rational argument, or prone to ugly distortion and exaggeration as the millions of TDS-afflicted Trump haters out there are!

Haha, no... he's the conservative bypass

[Jacuzzme]

So… yes. MABs are effective. But no… they're nowhere near the utility of a vaccine.

Let me know when there’s a vaccine. At the moment, we’ve got people freaking out about people spreading a disease they don’t have to other people who are vaccinated against it. Call me crazy, but I don’t think that’s ideally how a vaccination should work.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by AznPersuasion2

So… yes. MABs are effective. But no… they're nowhere near the utility of a vaccine.

I don't recall seeing anyone in this thread argue one is more effective than the other. At least I know I did not. You missed the point of the thread. It is whether potential life saving treatment should be withheld by the federal government.

I will ask you the same question Gristle consistently refuses to answer

Do you believe Senile Biden and the federal government should be blocking any potential lifesaving treatment for Covid (which includes the distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments) in the U.S.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

First - monoclonal antibodies are not a cure-all, and there is a lack of efficacy evidence, while I do think it's at least a treatment. But the vax-or-die, seems to be more of the far-right's anti-vax propaganda mantra. As far as taking the horse medication or the Lupus / malaria drugs, there are better choices. When you guys go to the doctor for a physical, do they tell you to turn your head and cough or is it a whinney or neigh?

You’re not really that misinformed (brainwashed?) enough yo believe the “horse medicine” bs, are you? Doctors should be treating this, and should’ve been experimenting with drug cocktails from day one, not telling people to stay home until they could barely breath. Millions of people would still be alive if covid didn’t get politicized, it’s the biggest medical disaster in history, brought to you by people who wanted to get rich and others who didn’t care if you died if it got Trump out of office.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Again, this has been in the news for months. Other states have brought it up... for months. It's well reported going back to September but you're only on the train now because of your precious Florida.

As for the MAB treatments, you're neglecting some material facts and context Supply is low again partially because 2 of the 3 primary treatments are ineffective against Omicron. Partially because of beauracracy. Partially due to the fact that they would have needed to secure more supply MONTHS ago.

No - you are conflating two different stories. Try to keep up.

When it was first in the news back around September, it wasn't that Senile Biden and the federal government were completely blocking the distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments. No back then the issue was they reduced the allocation to southern (aka Red states) using the argument they wanted to save them for northern states this winter. And at that time, Florida actually went out and bought their own supply

The issue now is Senile Biden and the federal government have been blocking the distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments to many states. Now states can't buy their own supply because the federal government controls it all. So people who need treatment are not getting it.

As to the rest of your silly rant
I guess you can't handle actual facts.
You may not like the info I post but I always provide links and sources so people can do their own research.

And if you want to denigrate everyone who posts here by inferring we can't discuss topics of current interest on what you call the "hooker board shitpost forum" - that is your opinion, wrong as it may be.

[HDGristle]

You don't always provide links and sources. You often do, I'll give you that, and often to some nebulous bullshit... but always and often aren't the same thing.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

You don't always provide links and sources. You often do, and often to some nebulous bullshit, but always and often aren't the same thing.

Whenever I post a news story or video I provide the link (although no one is perfect and perhaps I missed one here or there)

If I simply post my opinion, then obviously there is no link to provide

[HDGristle]

We're about a 10th of an inch closer towards consensus. Incremental progress at its best

[Dreamgurrl]

Originally Posted by berryberry

- that is your opinion, wrong as it may be.

ummm... by definition an opinion cannot be wrong. it is an opinion.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

ummm... by definition an opinion cannot be wrong. it is an opinion.

Really? Ok then, in my opinion the earth is flat and nobody can say I'm wrong.

[Dreamgurrl]

Yup.

Facts, non facts or alternative facts don’t mean that a persons opinion is wrong. By definition an opinion cannot be wrong.

Oops sorry… Back on the topic train
I personally won’t be listening to any slobby board warriors about politics or anything health related including MAB treatments.

Happy New Year!

As always wishing you all peace of mind and good health for you and your loved ones.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

Yup.

Facts, non facts or alternative facts don’t mean that a persons opinion is wrong. By definition an opinion cannot be wrong.

Really? You're doubling down?

Ok, let's try this...

If I take a fact and call it my "opinion", does that make it unchallengeable? Or if I take an opinion and call it a "fact" does that make it verifiable?

You can cite facts to support an opinion, but not vice versa.

Here are 2 statements. Which one is fact and which is opinion?

1. Dreamgurl is an eccie member.

2. Dreamgurl is the best provider in Pittsburgh.

Happy New Year backatcha!

[Dreamgurrl]

Originally Posted by Dreamgurrl

ummm... by definition an opinion cannot be wrong. it is an opinion.

Originally Posted by lustylad

You doubling down? Let's try this. If I take a fact and call it my "opinion", does that make it unchallengeable? Or if I take an opinion and call it a "fact" does that make it verifiable?

Here are 2 statements. Which one is fact and which is opinion:

1. Dreamgurl is an eccie member.

2. Dreamgurl is the best provider in Pittsburgh.

Doubling Down?

Good Lord . Now I have to get on my computer to share a link.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion

[HDGristle]

I haven't had a need to use the word sophism in awhile

[Dreamgurrl]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I haven't had a need to use the word sophism in awhile

Really? that word comes to mind anytime I read this forum.