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Old 10-10-2020, 04:39 PM   #31
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A couple of clarifications are merited adav8s28. First, as you know, Trump wasn't impeached because of the Mueller Report, but rather Ukraine. I'd argue that the Mueller Report was a dead end. The chief outcomes were that Manafort and Cohen were prosecuted. Manafort certainly deserved to be convicted and Cohen probably did. And Flynn and George Papadopoulus were convicted on trumped up charges. Correct me if you think I'm wrong, but Mueller didn't come up with anything that showed Trump or associates colluded with the Russians, although he did show the Russians interfered in the election.

The director of the IRS's Exempt Organizations Unit, Lois Lerner, was not fired. Rather, she resigned.

Furthermore President Obama made a series of speeches in 2010, effectively telegraphing the IRS to go after Tea Party 501(c)(4) organizations. Chuck Schumer, Al Franken and five other Democratic senators weren't as subtle. They wrote the Commissioner of the IRS demanding that the IRS investigate conservative 501(c)(4)'s.

Here are a couple of links. I've included Kimberley Strassel's timeline from the WSJ article, along with some remarks, in bold, that sum it all up.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...29571309012846

https://www.scribd.com/doc/142073156...oad&from_embed

Aug. 9, 2010: In Texas, President Obama for the first time publicly names a group he is obsessed with—Americans for Prosperity (founded by the Koch Brothers)—and warns about conservative groups. Taking up a cry that had until then largely been confined to left-wing media and activists, he says: "Right now all around this country there are groups with harmless-sounding names like Americans for Prosperity, who are running millions of dollars of ads . . . And they don't have to say who exactly the Americans for Prosperity are. You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation."

Aug. 11: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee sends out a fundraising email warning about "Karl Rove-inspired shadow groups."

Aug. 21: Mr. Obama devotes his weekly radio address to the threat of "attack ads run by shadowy groups with harmless-sounding names. We don't know who's behind these ads and we don't know who's paying for them. . . . You don't know if it's a foreign-controlled corporation. . . . The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide."

Week of Aug. 23: The New Yorker's Jane Mayer authors a hit piece on the Koch brothers, entitled "Covert Operations," in which she accuses them of funding "political front groups." The piece repeats the White House theme, with Ms. Mayer claiming the Kochs have created "slippery organizations with generic-sounding names" that have "made it difficult to ascertain the extent of their influence in Washington."

Aug. 27: White House economist Austan Goolsbee, in a background briefing with reporters, accuses Koch industries of being a pass-through entity that does "not pay corporate income tax." The Treasury inspector general investigates how it is that Mr. Goolsbee might have confidential tax information. The report has never been released.

This same week, the Democratic Party files a complaint with the IRS claiming the Americans for Prosperity Foundation is violating its tax-exempt status.

Sept. 2: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee warns on its website that the Kochs have "funneled their money into right-wing shadow groups."

Sept. 16: Mr. Obama, in Connecticut, repeats that a "foreign-controlled entity" might be funding "millions of dollars of attack ads." Four days later, in Philadelphia, he again says the problem is that "nobody knows" who is behind conservative groups.

Sept. 21: Sam Stein, in his Huffington Post article "Obama, Dems Try to Make Shadowy Conservative Groups a Problem for Conservatives," writes that a "senior administration official" had "urged a small gathering of reporters to start writing on what he deemed 'the most insidious power grab that we have seen in a very long time.' "

Sept. 22: In New York City, Mr. Obama warns that conservative groups "pose as non-for-profit, social welfare and trade groups," even though they are "guided by seasoned Republican political operatives" who might be funded by a "foreign-controlled corporation."

Sept. 26: On ABC's "This Week," Obama senior adviser David Axelrod declares outright that the "benign-sounding Americans for Prosperity, the American Crossroads Fund" are "front groups for foreign-controlled companies."

Sept. 28: The president, in Wisconsin, again warns about conservative organizations "posing as nonprofit groups." Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, writes to the IRS demanding it investigate nonprofits. The letter names conservative organizations.


On Oct. 14, Mr. Obama calls these groups "a problem for democracy." On Oct. 22, he slams those who "hide behind these front groups." On Oct. 25, he upgrades them to a "threat to our democracy." On Oct. 26, he decries groups engaged in "unsupervised spending."


These were not off-the-cuff remarks. They were repeated by the White House and echoed by its allies in campaign events, emails, social media and TV ads. The president of the United States spent months warning the country that "shadowy," conservative "front" groups—"posing" as tax-exempt entities and illegally controlled by "foreign" players—were engaged in "unsupervised" spending that posed a "threat" to democracy. Yet we are to believe that a few rogue IRS employees just happened during that time to begin systematically targeting conservative groups? A mere coincidence that among the things the IRS demanded of these groups were "copies of any contracts with and training materials provided by Americans for Prosperity"?

This newspaper reported Thursday that Cincinnati IRS employees are now telling investigators that they took their orders from Washington. For anyone with a memory of 2010 politics, that was obvious from the start.
Tiny, I will have to get back to you on this one. Briefly, a couple of things.

1. I think the Mueller report had like 10 examples where Trump broke the law, four of the examples were stronger than the others.

2. Even former Judge Napolitano of Fox said Trump was guilty of a couple of them.

3. Papadoupolos lied to the FBI. Lying is not a trumped of charge. Papadoupolos was doing more than just fetching coffee at meetings.

4. Don Junior did have a meeting with the Russians in Trump tower.

I need some time to look at your links. I will get back to you in a couple days. Sunday is for the NFL.
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:44 PM   #32
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There are so many insecure little dick no body's on here that will never ever accept that any woman can be successful. They would prefer to sniff lead and support their John in chief that paid $100k to fuck a porn star.

We all know that Muller bailed to cover his wimp ass. How many years did Starr hang around to find "something" on rock star Bill?
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:56 PM   #33
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There are so many insecure little dick no body's on here that will never ever accept that any woman can be successful. They would prefer to sniff lead and support their John in chief that paid $100k to fuck a porn star.

We all know that Muller bailed to cover his wimp ass. How many years did Starr hang around to find "something" on rock star Bill?
jfk and slick willie were well know users of prostitutes!
Now we have one running for vp!
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Old 10-10-2020, 05:01 PM   #34
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Sunday is for the NFL.
Enjoy the games!
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Gonna be pretty scary if the demoturds actually win. Pelosi (big droopy grandma tits) will oust Biden. KamalamaDingDong will rise up off her knees to become the President.. And AOC (IWannaSuckOnThoseTiddays) will become KamalamaDingDong's bitch.

Gotta go.. got some Biden signs to burn.
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Unfortunately, IBM is going to have no say.
What do you mean? Work for IBM for 25 years and you will get a pension.
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Islander Kamala probably has first hand knowledge of prostitution.

And it wasn't on Epstein's Island with Clinton.
Going on a date with your boss is not prostitution. Participating in pay for play that results in ejaculation is. Speaking of Epstein's island, Trump was friends with Epstein. Did Trump ever go to that island? Or was Trump ever serviced at Epstein's island.
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jfk and slick willie were well know users of prostitutes!
Now we have one running for vp!
JFK dated Marilyn Monroe. Monroe was not a prostitute. B. Clinton dated southern belle Jenifer Flowers. Flowers was not a prostitute. They had relationships outside of their marriage, they didn't pay for it. Trump had a hook up with porn actress "Stormy Daniels" he did not pay for it directly, he just promised her she could be on "The Apprentice". Trump was even going to give Daniels the projects ahead of time so she could prepare and have an advantage over the other contestants.

Harris did not participate in pay for play. It would be difficult to become an Attorney General if she did.
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JFK dated Marilyn Monroe. Monroe was not a prostitute. B. Clinton dated southern belle Jenifer Flowers. Flowers was was not a prostitute. They had relationships outside of their marriage, they didn't pay for it. Trump had a hook up with porn actress "Stormy Daniels" he did not pay for it directly, he just promised her she could be on "The Apprentice". Trump was even going to give Daniels the projects ahead of time so she could prepare and have an advantage over the other contestants.
Uhh?

Many reports from ex staff wh workers and secret service of both men having prostitutes being discreetly provided to them have been reported for years. Especially jfk.
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Going on a date with your boss is not prostitution. Participating in pay for play that results in ejaculation is. Speaking of Epstein's island, Trump was friends with Epstein. Did Trump ever go to that island? Or was Trump ever serviced by one of Epstein's girls.
kumulla was a sugar babe! She was well compensated!
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kumulla was a sugar babe! She was well compensated!
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Who was her "Sugar Daddy"? Did she belong to "Ashley Madison" or did she go on dates with her boss Willie Brown, the former mayor of San Francisco.
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kumulla was a sugar babe! She was well compensated!
Link?
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Clearly shows ......
Biden won the nomination not Sanders.
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Biden won the nomination not Sanders.
Unhinged just big or biggly?

Just where did I post that sanders won the nomination?

Thats your "heres your sign moment"!
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Just where did I post that sanders won the nomination?
The implication was made in post #30.
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