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Old 08-19-2019, 04:13 PM   #31
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Deflection and Denial
Goebbels is the Model for the DPST propaganda machine
All of the points above , and more from Goebbels , are used by the DPST and LSM as propaganda.

Unpublished point- DPST have no shame in Lying - it is necessary and a part of the plan of Conuest of the Americas into One Socialist -fascist totalitarian country under DPST Nomenklatura.
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Old 08-19-2019, 04:23 PM   #32
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I stand for Freedom of Speech - even offensive speech taken from Goebbels' pages,
The difference here is - DPST's have no intention of respecting and allowing Freedom of Speech to any One who disagrees with them.

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Old 08-19-2019, 04:56 PM   #33
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You can say anything you want
Many Trump supporters can agree with it
The fact that you support Trump puts you at a credible disadvantage
Hell even CNN used to have Paris Dennard on...they respected his toe head.
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Old 08-19-2019, 05:08 PM   #34
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But you're ignoring how the lie was "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" and that it was a dim-retard lie bought, paid for and propagated by hildebeest and her minions.
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^^^ You were replying to IB, right?

Thanks, you beat me to it!

The Russian collusion lie was a way for hildebeest to accuse trump of exactly what SHE did - collude with Russians to try and tilt the election!

Perfect fit for #2 on Goebbels' list!
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No collusion...plenty of obstruction....and why isn't Clinton or her friends in jail? Perhaps she is too crafty
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In a just universe she WOULD be in jail, along with her co-colluders Glenn Simpson, John Brennan, et alia. The deep state keeps running interference for them.

She's not a craft(y) beer drinker, she's a wino.
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She is one crafty wino
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Old 08-19-2019, 08:06 PM   #38
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Trump told other lies repeatedly...


I see what you did there...................
There's no greater lie in this American decade than hildebeest, et als, "RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA!" lie, as it was repeated more times than can be counted, and it's still being repeated by some really retarded individuals even today in this forum AFTER Mueller told everyone it was a lie.
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A bigger lie is when you order a Whataburger and compare it to the pictures in their ads
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The bottom line is, it’s over for Biden. Again! And so is what ever was left of Obama’s “legacy”



BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Doesn't matter...damn near anyone could beat Trump...even that weird crystal lady in the debates
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BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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In a just universe she WOULD be in jail, along with her co-colluders Glenn Simpson, John Brennan, et alia. The deep state keeps running interference for them.

She's not a craft(y) beer drinker, she's a wino.
Come On Lusty. Tell me you don't really believe that "deep state" bullshit
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Come On Lusty. Tell me you don't really believe that "deep state" bullshit
Whaddya say mystic? I was distracted reading Kim Strassel's latest column. You know Kim Strassel, right? She was educated at Princeton and now writes for the WSJ. She has been shining the spotlight on the deep state's "bullshit" for the last 2-1/2 years.

You should read her. She is always spot on. No bullshit, no conspiracy theories, just the facts - even if (or especially if) they lead to places that make the libtards uncomfortable.


Fusion, the ‘Collusion’ Puppeteer

Bruce Ohr’s 302s, just released to the public, show Glenn Simpson pulling the strings.


By Kimberley A. Strassel
Aug. 15, 2019 7:02 pm ET


The Justice Department is investigating how a former British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, came to exert so much influence over the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s erroneous Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Let’s hope the department is also investigating an even more influential man who had even less business manipulating the government: Glenn Simpson, the head of opposition-research firm Fusion GPS.

That’s a pressing question in light of new documents from high-ranking Justice official Bruce Ohr, obtained recently by Judicial Watch. The papers include, among other things, a dozen official FBI interviews (known as 302s) of Mr. Ohr that date from just after the 2016 election through May 2017. The documents suggest Mr. Simpson was the real puppet master of the collusion drama.

Most of the FBI’s debriefs of Mr. Ohr center on information about or from Mr. Steele—itself a major breach of FBI protocol. The bureau fired Mr. Steele as a source in autumn 2016, when it became clear he was blabbing about the FBI investigation to the press. The FBI nonetheless continued to use Mr. Ohr as a back door to its discredited source. The 302s relate the numerous times and ways Mr. Steele contacted Mr. Ohr with information—although many of the details of the conversations remain redacted.

More eye-popping in the 302s is the ease with which Mr. Simpson landed meetings with powerful officials, for no apparent purpose other than to peddle unverified accusations against the Trump team. This isn’t a former intelligence officer or government official, or even someone with specialized knowledge of Russia. Mr. Simpson is a private citizen—and one who Mr. Ohr and the FBI knew was providing information to Hillary Clinton’s team (as Mr. Ohr acknowledges in his initial 302). Yet when Mr. Simpson called, officials across Washington hopped to, swallowing the claims that would become the basis of a false hysteria.

We already knew Mr. Simpson’s relationship with Mr. Ohr began well before the July 2016 launch of the FBI investigation. We knew Mr. Simpson used his many press connections to get the collusion story out. And we know from former FBI counsel James Baker’s House testimony the FBI was aware in 2016 that “Simpson was going around Washington” giving Mr. Steele’s dossier “to a lot of different people and trying to elevate its profile.”

Now we have specifics. Thanks to the 302s, we have Mr. Ohr on Nov. 22, 2016, reporting that Mr. Simpson had been “talking to [then-Assistant Secretary] Victoria Nuland at the U.S. State Department.” We have Mr. Ohr several weeks later relaying that he met Mr. Simpson for breakfast on Dec. 10, where Mr. Simpson turned over a “thumb drive,” which was “entered into evidence.” At that meeting Mr. Simpson also informed Mr. Ohr—who in turn informed the FBI—that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was “the go-between” who connected “Russia and the Trump campaign,” that a Russian was funneling money “to the National Rifle Association,” that there was “communication” between the Trump campaign and a Russian bank, and plenty more. Bob Mueller found none of this in his report.

We have Mr. Ohr explaining he received more information from Mr. Simpson on Jan. 20, 2017, the day President Trump was inaugurated. We separately have him offering in early December 2016 to “provide his wife’s research” for Fusion GPS “to the FBI.” The FBI later that month gladly took possession of the “totality of the work Nellie Ohr conducted for Simpson,” and entered it “into evidence.” Put another way, a great deal more of the anti-Trump Simpson file beyond just the dossier made its way to the FBI. These whispers of Mr. Simpson’s helped provoke a counterintelligence investigation into a sitting president, a special counsel and a media frenzy—for more than two years.

Then consider that Mr. Simpson is the progenitor of the dossier as well. Mr. Steele wrote it because Mr. Simpson hired him to do so, on behalf of the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee. Why Mr. Steele? In Senate testimony, Mr. Simpson casually marked it down to their having previously “worked together.” Then again, if the goal all along was to push opposition research to senior officials, it seems just as likely Mr. Steele was chosen because of his existing high-level contacts—with the Ohrs, with Obama State Department employee Jonathan Winer, and with FBI agents.

The former FBI leadership—Director James Comey, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, counterespionage chief Peter Strzok—continue to insist the bureau did nothing wrong. But given the humiliating truth that there was no Russia collusion, the FBI’s actions can be described in only one of two ways. At worst, its leadership willfully acted against the Trump administration on information it knew was bogus. At best, its leadership was so standardless and inept as to allow a paid political operative to lead it around by the nose. In either case, there’s no excuse or justification.


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