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Old 07-15-2012, 10:26 PM   #31
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Jimmy Carter ran a business, is that who you are thinking of?

George Bush Jr ran a business too, didn't he.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:25 AM   #32
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What a slimmy communist cocksucker we have for a president. I have had 2 successfull businesses of my own, fixing on starting another, when we get this prick out of there. The only help he wants to give us, is helping to relieve us of our hard earned cash. Did I have help? Damn right I did, and I repaid those favors, and bank loans. And in the mean time gave great customer service, because that is the key to being successfull... working for orthes I turned around 4 companies both large, 400 employees in the industry I'm in, and small 25 employees, didn't take long either , in all cases less than a year to turn a profit, didn't cut many jobs, just taught folks to work smarter, and went out and worked right with them. This prick HAS NEVER WORKED A DAY IN HIS WHOLE PATHETIC FUCKING LIFE, and he is going to do what? Tell us how to run a business, like solyndra, yea this whole fucking country will go straight down the shitter. This 2 bit, would be dictators days are fucking numbered... cocksucker.....lol
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:59 AM   #33
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Read what he actually said, now what you said he said. I own two successful businesses and I agree with every word.
Funny, you were exactly who I thought about reading that article. I anticipated pretty much this reply. Still respect you, but

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Walton - pretty much.

Gates - had a "little" bit of help from mommy.
Of course. Many if not most small businesses start out, and often remain, family owned and family financed, at least getting started. Then that good relationship with that local community bank kicks in.
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Old 07-16-2012, 06:42 AM   #34
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Jimmy Carter ran a business, is that who you are thinking of?

George Bush Jr ran a business too, didn't he.
Bush made his money off the Dallas taxpayers! He relied on a shit pile of people!
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:22 PM   #35
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Oddly, some business leaders took offense at the President's remarks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-success.html

They don't understand that behind every successful business is a government who wants to control them.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:12 AM   #36
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Jefferson- government too big can not serve the common man but control him"
Obama- Yes we can yes we can yes I can-- tell you when to pee!
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Old 07-17-2012, 03:56 PM   #37
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I wonder if Obama's comment wasn't directed at Romney. Romney's main qualification for the presidency is probably his success in the private sector, building a company. Obama seems to think anyone could have created a successful company out of nothing.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:17 PM   #38
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What about the people who started a business that failed? Who is responsible for that?
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:22 PM   #39
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Obama is a slick liar no doubt.

Listeners who don't parse his words can be fooled into thinking Obama is right. But Obama is being the deceitful politican.

There is no denying that business has been assisted by government (roads, education, security, etc). Obama wants listeners to believe the Federal Government was the player, when in fact, it is local government.

I have no arguement with local government funding to help business, and getting credit.

Obama wants the Feds (really him) to benefit from the hard work of local government and business, by taxation and regulation...thus his lie to take more from us.

In truth, the Federal Government under Obama's reign of terror has destroyed jobs and prosperity. Here are the numbers:

January 2009 = 149,009,000 employment
June 2012 = 142,415,000 employed

Read it and weep; Obama destroyed jobs, not created them !

Where he gets his comeuppance to claim government (Obama) helped business is astonishing. This is a no brainer attack ad for Romney. He should take Team Obama apart on this issue.

Keep your eye on the prize and hands on the facts.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:38 PM   #40
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Obama is a slick liar no doubt.

Listeners who don't parse his words can be fooled into thinking Obama is right. But Obama is being the deceitful politican.
Odumbo has always been deceitful.

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There is no denying that business has been assisted by government (roads, education, security, etc). Obama wants listeners to believe the Federal Government was the player, when in fact, it is local government.
It's deceitful to argue that the government gave successful businessmen some kind of an advantage over those who were not successful. That argument deceivingly ignores that the same opportunity was universally available to everyone else.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:49 PM   #41
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Right IB; the astute listener can figure that out...but Obama is being the slick liar, making the leap without being honest in his presentation. Note he doesn't use the arguement of "business got their advantage over others", he let's listeners make that unfounded leap...Obama just leads them to that conclusion without saying it....he is a foul politican because he is deceitfully playing off both the ignorance and emotions of voters, for his electoral gain.

Slick Liar He Is !
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:22 PM   #42
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[SIZE=3]It's deceitful to argue that the government gave successful businessmen some kind of an advantage over those who were not successful.
I think COG's the one making that argument. Take it up with him.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:46 PM   #43
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Oclasswarfare hates success. He like his community beholden to him and his Comrades.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:03 PM   #44
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I didn't think Romney had a chance, but maybe if Odumbass keeps talking he'll beat himself.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:15 PM   #45
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I didn't think Romney had a chance, but maybe if Odumbass keeps talking he'll beat himself.
Yup, twist his words and he can say anything you want to hate him for.
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