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Old 09-10-2024, 09:59 PM   #31
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And the Fox talking heads are looking deflated. You left that part out.
No need to, you already said it. They don't look as deflated as the MSNBC crowd after the Biden/Trump debate.
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Old 09-10-2024, 10:01 PM   #32
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Trump’s closing = Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb.

and Harris?


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I don't believe there was a knockout tonight, like in the Trump/Biden debate earlier this year. Esteemed fellow board members, what is your decision? Who was the winner? I'd pick Kamala Harris, by a cunt hair. I don't think it's going to move the needle on election night though.

a draw meaning a net W for Trump. he debated Harris and ABC



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I was just switching back and forth between Fox and CNN for post debate commentary, and yes, the CNN pundits are more upbeat.

of course they are. let's see how upbeat they are IF Harris would debate Trump on FOX.


Trump has debated twice in intentionally hostile environments. Let's see if Kammy girl has the brass tits to do the same.
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Will this change the outcome of the election? It depends on how many independent voters and new voters actually watched the debate.
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of course they are. let's see how upbeat they are IF Harris would debate Trump on FOX.


Trump has debated twice in intentionally hostile environments. Let's see if Kammy girl has the brass tits to do the same.
Interesting question. She might do it. It may depend on where she is in the polls in a couple of weeks. Remember back in 2020 that Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, the Fox moderators, were fair to both candidates.
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Trump spent more time talking, but was heavily on the defensive.

He came across as petulant when he wasn't falling back into bad word salad habits. Those work against Biden's word salad. Harris isn't Biden.

Harris was better composed. More deft at pivoting back to plans (even if they're not great) and less focused on blame game and more on aspirational leadership and the future.

Trump got in shots, but was for the most part flailing in the corner despite being more active. That activity was spastic, wild and most of it had very little oomph.

If this were 5 rounds in the UFC, Harris 49 - Trump 47
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Interesting question. She might do it. It may depend on where she is in the polls in a couple of weeks. Remember back in 2020 that Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, the Fox moderators, were fair to both candidates.

exactly. for Harris that's a hostile environment. to Trump it's a fair game.
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If this were 5 rounds in the UFC, Harris 49 - Trump 47
Which coincidentally is about where they stand in averages of recent polls.
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I did when dumb dumb talked about immigrants eating pets in Springfield and abortions after kids are born in West Virginia. Seriously? People are actually dumb enough to believe that silly bullshit?
Trump supporters = dumbest folks on earth. They also believe he won the 2020 election. So yea, they are quite dumb enough to believe all the silly bullshit.
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A pundit on PBS described the debate like this. Two candidates, one with a strategy and one without. Harris kept pushing her agenda to the independent voters who were watching while goading Trump to defend him self and his craziness, lies and grievances.

They also predicted that the conservative pundits would be down playing his statements and instead placing the blame on the moderators and the debate rules. Kind of like what we’re seeing in this forum now.
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Interesting question. She might do it. It may depend on where she is in the polls in a couple of weeks. Remember back in 2020 that Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum, the Fox moderators, were fair to both candidates.
What’s her incentive to debate him again. This one was simulcast on Fox so it was seen by Fox watchers. She’s been seen by every demographic and she can now just run around the country campaigning and plying clips from this debate in her commercials. There will be no Fox debate or any other for that matter because it doesn’t serve any purpose from a campaign standpoint.

And yeah, the folks on here blame the moderators. He got baited effectively and fell into every trap. She outmaneuvered him and he just couldn't get on track.

Also Taylor Swift has now endorsed Harris. That's gonna be pretty good in the youth vote.
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Remember, when he was up in the polls he said he had no reason to debate. Now he's gonna want to get as many debates as he can.

Tulsi Gabbard was right. She warned him not to underestimate Harris and he did just that.

The takedown on abortion was incredibly painful to watch and you could see him get smaller and smaller and angrier as she rebut him after he failed to explain why he should be trusted.

Never even bothered to get to that or connect how his vote in FL had anything to do with his WV fever dream of post birth executions.

That's a whopper of a lie on par with him building the best economy ever. His wasn't even close.
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Well, I guess Trump didn't win over Tay Tay tonight with her just now official Harris endorsement. The Swifties vs. the MAGAs should be a brutal battle of strength and will. Haha
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Trump supporters = dumbest folks on earth. They also believe he won the 2020 election. So yea, they are quite dumb enough to believe all the silly bullshit.

and Democrats who support Harris?



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What’s her incentive to debate him again. This one was simulcast on Fox so it was seen by Fox watchers. She’s been seen by every demographic and she can now just run around the country campaigning and plying clips from this debate in her commercials. There will be no Fox debate or any other for that matter because it doesn’t serve any purpose from a campaign standpoint.

And yeah, the folks on here blame the moderators. He got baited effectively and fell into every trap. She outmaneuvered him and he just couldn't get on track.

Also Taylor Swift has now endorsed Harris. That's gonna be pretty good in the youth vote.



wrong. watched on FOX is not hosted by FOX. the Democrats are already claiming they want another debate. means only thing .. they didn't come anywhere close to the knockout they hoped for. and they know it.



Kammy Girl needs to show some brass tits. or she can be a coward and hide in Biden's basement.
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Biden won an election in that basement, last you forget.
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A pundit on PBS described the debate like this. Two candidates, one with a strategy and one without. Harris kept pushing her agenda to the independent voters who were watching while goading Trump to defend him self and his craziness, lies and grievances.

They also predicted that the conservative pundits would be down playing his statements and instead placing the blame on the moderators and the debate rules. Kind of like what we’re seeing in this forum now.



how many lies did Harris tell?
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