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Old 02-05-2023, 08:04 PM   #31
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... Now, now there, mate... Why you doing insults??
It's poor form on your part. ... ...

... YOU asked the question in yer thread title and thus
invited the responces.

... Kinda below the Marquis of Queensbury rules,
if ya ask me.... When you ask a question, all the
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... Can we simply agree that some of us Don't Believe
the economy is doing well?

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My apologies...I should not have made fun of these Trump lovers life choices
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:08 PM   #32
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BTW, HEB chickens are $7.20, not $6 as the poster you quoted stated.


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I was a dollar twenty off and the other poster was 14 dollars off an you point out my math.

Btw...it was in the 6 dollar range a couple of weeks ago when I last checked.
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You really are clueless about the regulations that Biden and his administration increased to on fossil fuels to reduce supply and increase price. They also use the EPA to increase regulations to stop refineries from expanding or being built.
Biden backtracked when he figured out it was going to hurt the Democratic Party at the polls. But when the progressives in the Democratic Party want to ban fracking, and when Biden, a "moderate", campaigned on ending drilling on federal leases and going to "0" net carbon, who's going to stick around to the end? If you believe Democratic politicians are going to succeed with their agenda in a timely fashion, you're foolish investing long term in fossil fuels.
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Why do you Trump lovers think the economy is doing bad?
Doing badly.

See my reply over in Blackman's thread this evening WTF. To add to what I wrote there, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. Yeah Biden and the Democrats have pumped a ton of money into the economy, but what's going to happen when the hangover sets in. Right now, prices and services are up more than wages and the federal debt is out of control. Many believe we'll be going into a recession before long because of aggressive Fed policy engendered in part by excessive fiscal stimulus during the Biden administration.
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Old 02-05-2023, 09:06 PM   #35
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I see the problem now...all these Trump lovers are broke ass bitches who like to cry about their shitty life choices on a hooker board!

Get a better job boys...they're plenty out there.

And go to HEB for roasted chickens...they're 6 bucks!
No not exactly. Conservatives are just more realistic. Biden isn't savvy enough to forge a strong economy. This administration on all four corners is mediocre at best. No matter the economy there will always be winners and losers. The average American who does most of the living and dying in this country are losing.
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My oldest has a PhD with a six figure income, her husband is a union carpenter so does well too. I put up the 20% so they could buy a house. The Phoenix market is a fkn joke, 475 for something about the same ^2’ to my first crib, that cost 50k. Low unemployment is meaningless if people, even the ones with good jobs, can’t afford to live and are better off on welfare.
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Old 02-07-2023, 10:26 AM   #37
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"Why do you Trump lovers think the economy is doing bad? "

Likely laziness on our part. We can't seem to think of anything that has gone down in price, increased in quality, become more readily available, improves freedom, reduces tyranny and/or improved our lives in any meaningful way since 2019. Our bad...
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"Why do you Trump lovers think the economy is doing bad? "

Likely laziness on our part. We can't seem to think of anything that has gone down in price, increased in quality, become more readily available, improves freedom, reduces tyranny and/or improved our lives in any meaningful way since 2019. Our bad...
Your bad indeed not understanding that it was a one off where energy companies were going to continue to invest in drilling with no ROI on the horizon.

The pandemic gave Russia and the Saudi's the opportunity to right that ship sooner rather than later.

I doubt if you even understand what it was that was just said.
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Old 02-07-2023, 01:16 PM   #39
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No not exactly. Conservatives are just more realistic. Biden isn't savvy enough to forge a strong economy. This administration on all four corners is mediocre at best. No matter the economy there will always be winners and losers. The average American who does most of the living and dying in this country are losing.
Lowest unemployment in 50 years isn't a good economy?

Maybe you can speak with Powell then and tell him to start lowering the intrest rates. That'd make me a ton of money with a couple of the REIT I currently have.
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...I doubt if you even understand what it was that was just said.
Yet you failed to answer the question. What I said was: We can't seem to think of anything that has gone down in price, increased in quality, become more readily available, improves freedom, reduces tyranny and/or improved our lives in any meaningful way since 2019.You responded with: TDS, TDS, Orange Man Bad, TDS, TDS.

The 1st step in the 12 step program is admitting you need help.
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Yet you failed to answer the question. What I said was: We can't seem to think of anything that has gone down in price, increased in quality, become more readily available, improves freedom, reduces tyranny and/or improved our lives in any meaningful way since 2019.You responded with: TDS, TDS, Orange Man Bad, TDS, TDS.

The 1st step in the 12 step program is admitting you need help.
Unemployment is down.

Unless you think that is a bad thing....

You're sadly mistaken if you think I give af about Trump.
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Doing badly.

See my reply over in Blackman's thread this evening WTF. To add to what I wrote there, it ain't over til the fat lady sings. Yeah Biden and the Democrats have pumped a ton of money into the economy, but what's going to happen when the hangover sets in. Right now, prices and services are up more than wages and the federal debt is out of control. Many believe we'll be going into a recession before long because of aggressive Fed policy engendered in part by excessive fiscal stimulus during the Biden administration.
I love your word play...or lack there of

Hopefully you have a nonpartisan investment broker that does the heavy lifting in your portfolio!

Shirley you understand what China being shutdown for so long meant to inflation? Your word of the day is "decouple" and how that may effect inflation.

So yes the huge stimulus checks both Trump and Biden provided seem a tab over reactive in hindsight but the people crying about inflation cashed them! Wtf did they expect?

Combine that with the war which have effected grain prices, the underpinning of food prices along with energy prices.

I understand you Reagan acolytes wanting to avoid this basic replay from 1980 but it basically is.
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I love your word play...or lack there of

Hopefully you have a nonpartisan investment broker that does the heavy lifting in your portfolio!

Shirley you understand what China being shutdown for so long meant to inflation? Your word of the day is "decouple" and how that may effect inflation.

So yes the huge stimulus checks both Trump and Biden provided seem a tab over reactive in hindsight but the people crying about inflation cashed them! Wtf did they expect?

Combine that with the war which have effected grain prices, the underpinning of food prices along with energy prices.

I understand you Reagan acolytes wanting to avoid this basic replay from 1980 but it basically is.

You really are wrong about everything. Biden took office and pushed more stimulus money out the door when it absolutely wasn't needed, and provide nothing more than inflation.



While you are correct that both parties during an election year shoved too much money out the door is true, it is also true they shut the economy down a totally stupid and unscientific way. Smart people woke up by June and July, mainly Republican run states.


World wide weather issues have caused some increases in grain prices by reduced supplies, but the Ukraine war is not the primary reason for higher grain prices.


Much of the food price increase is from Bidens war on fossil fuels and the dramatic increase in fuel and transportation costs.


Biden's economy is the rerun of the disaster of the 1970's. Typical Democrat long term economic destruction, which Obama and Biden have both done. Trump did reduce the problem briefly, but too many regulations often implemented without congressional approval is having the historical disasterous effect like Democrats who have failed history keep promoting.
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While you are correct that both parties during an election year shoved too much money out the door is true...

....Much of the food price increase is from Bidens war on fossil fuels and the dramatic increase in fuel and transportation costs.


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You should have stopped at "While you are correct..."

https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/ukrain...ood-insecurity


number of factors have converged over the last 18 months to send global agricultural commodity prices to near-record levels. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine – and the potential loss of Ukrainian exports – was the latest development to push commodity prices higher. Other factors affecting global markets, which date back to late 2020, include: increased global demand, led by China; drought-reduced supplies; tightening wheat, corn, and soybean stocks in major exporting countries; high energy prices pushing up the costs of fertilizer, transportation, and agricultural production; and countries imposing export bans and restrictions, further tightening supplies.
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