Questions about the clock

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Valerie

Haha! I can just picture you discretely checking your wrist!

Like the scene in Klute, where the guy is on top of Jane Fonda, with his head over her shoulder and face buried in the pillow, while she checks her watch.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Valerie

Haha! I can just picture you discretely checking your wrist!

hahahaha, you mean the bored look with me first rolling my eyes sighing while staring at my watch holding my hand like a poser in front of me? For the ones who did not get it back then i further add "pointing repeatedly with my fingernails at my watch" making little noises while smiling at the gentlemen? That is how i usually end my sessions I am all for the subtle little hints....who would be so mean to throw a gent out

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

hahahaha, you mean the bored look with me first rolling my eyes sighing while staring at my watch holding my hand like a poser in front of me? For the ones who did not get it back then i further add "pointing repeatedly with my fingernails at my watch" making little noises while smiling at the gentlemen? That is how i usually end my sessions I am all for the subtle little hints....who would be so mean to throw a gent out

You're naughty!

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

An Alabama girl actually did that with me, but I had a great time anyway. I think she did too - she said she did.

coitus DINGeruptus ?

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

hahahaha, you mean the bored look with me first rolling my eyes sighing while staring at my watch holding my hand like a poser in front of me? For the ones who did not get it back then i further add "pointing repeatedly with my fingernails at my watch" making little noises while smiling at the gentlemen? That is how i usually end my sessions I am all for the subtle little hints....who would be so mean to throw a gent out

Originally Posted by Valerie

You're naughty!

It's comments like this (and your collaboration in them) that belie the assertion that you like a good passionate session with a gent and that you really get into it, providing a wonderful experience.

What this really says to me is that both of you can hardly wait for each session to end so that you can collect your money and scoot the guy out. And you can hardly wait for it to end so much that you watch each second slowly ticking by, all the while thinking, "Can't these seconds go any faster?"

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

It's comments like this (and your collaboration in them) that belie the assertion that you like a good passionate session with a gent and that you really get into it, providing a wonderful experience.

What this really says to me is that both of you can hardly wait for each session to end so that you can collect your money and scoot the guy out. And you can hardly wait for it to end so much that you watch each second slowly ticking by, all the while thinking, "Can't these seconds go any faster?"

Oh Charles...can`t you understand some fun :-) And - on a shorter note, do you really think that other providers are honest when they write they enjoy every session with a client? There is always a middle between two extremes (ripp off vs. nympho). I strongly believe that when you have the ability to work independent, which means that when no one searches the clients for you (like it happens in agencies) you only find gents with whom the chemistry clicks. I have seen and experienced this on numerous occasions, be it in studios in Europe where you see all women and the guy choses one. I hardly got chosen by the ones that i did not like and vice versa. Its body language , mimikry, or chemistry via emailexchanges that matter. And a homepage is attractive only for gents who *know* intrinsically what this is about. That`s why it`s there in the first place. I say what i provide and what i am looking for or good at, my specialty and then the clients come by themselves. I never had a bad experience this way. And at times when i did have bad experiences (when i was very young and did not know my way around) god forbid the client would have recognised ;-). When i was young i was way too submissive to say anything rude to anyone. (hard to believe, yes??)

I believe it is harder when you work in an enviroment where there is no such thing as an individual homepage. But even then it is very demanding to be with people you don`t klick with and alone for my own sanity i would never do such a thing. That is the difference between slavery or working for agencies and being an independent. You have a choice. With agencies the booker chooses and you have no influence. In a studio where you see people live its also with a choice.

ps: remember the racist thread where a provider asked for a collegue who was offended by a client and did not know if to loose him or not: Its exactly that. Some people have a choice, some don`t for whatever reason. And sometimes its right in the middle. Not good enough to truly enjoy and not bad enough to loose it.

In my work consciousness expansion is important, so i automatically loose clients with whom "nothing moves" so to speak and i don`t get at a deeper level. That is important to me. I don`t do Groundhogs day. Too old for that already.

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

It's comments like this (and your collaboration in them) that belie the assertion that you like a good passionate session with a gent and that you really get into it, providing a wonderful experience.

What this really says to me is that both of you can hardly wait for each session to end so that you can collect your money and scoot the guy out. And you can hardly wait for it to end so much that you watch each second slowly ticking by, all the while thinking, "Can't these seconds go any faster?"

No Charlie!....I thought her story was funny! And I told her she was naughty!

I didn't say I did that!

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Oh Charles...can`t you understand some fun :-) And - on a shorter note, do you really think that other providers are honest when they write they enjoy every session with a client? There is always a middle between two extremes (ripp off vs. nympho). I strongly believe that when you have the ability to work independent, which means that when no one searches the clients for you (like it happens in agencies) you only find gents with whom the chemistry clicks. I have seen and experienced this on numerous occasions, be it in studios in Europe where you see all women and the guy choses one. I hardly got chosen by the ones that i did not like and vice versa. Its body language , mimikry, or chemistry via emailexchanges that matter. And a homepage is attractive only for gents who *know* intrinsically what this is about. That`s why it`s there in the first place. I say what i provide and what i am looking for or good at, my specialty and then the clients come by themselves. I never had a bad experience this way. And at times when i did have bad experiences (when i was very young and did not know my way around) god forbid the client would have recognised ;-). When i was young i was way too submissive to say anything rude to anyone. (hard to believe, yes??)

I believe it is harder when you work in an enviroment where there is no such thing as an individual homepage. But even then it is very demanding to be with people you don`t klick with and alone for my own sanity i would never do such a thing. That is the difference between slavery or working for agencies and being an independent. You have a choice. With agencies the booker chooses and you have no influence. In a studio where you see people live its also with a choice.

ps: remember the racist thread where a provider asked for a collegue who was offended by a client and did not know if to loose him or not: Its exactly that. Some people have a choice, some don`t for whatever reason. And sometimes its right in the middle. Not good enough to truly enjoy and not bad enough to loose it.

In my work consciousness expansion is important, so i automatically loose clients with whom "nothing moves" so to speak and i don`t get at a deeper level. That is important to me. I don`t do Groundhogs day. Too old for that already.

No I don't think you click with every client...I certainly haven't clicked with every escort I've seen. But however much I'd like not to believe it, a part of me does believe that the two major goals of each session are to get the money and get it over. Maybe I'm being too much of a cynic.

I've been with about 2-3 escorts who I really enjoyed, but I'm not sure any of them enjoyed being with me. I think part of the problem may be that I couldn't be a regular. So, I'm a one shot date and there's little motivation to make a really great date. In this respect, and to use your words, "nothing moves" and we'll never get to a deeper level. Without that kind of motivation to being with me, it's hard to believe the session can be anything wonderful...and that the escort will be looking at her watch 10 minutes into the session.

Besides, I assume most escorts do some sort of performance measurement. When the guy comes up short (so to speak), it's another reason to cut the session short.

Originally Posted by Valerie

No Charlie!....I thought her story was funny! And I told her she was naughty!

I didn't say I did that!

I thought you were agreeing with her. Sometimes you become a clock watcher due to the client.

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

I thought you were agreeing with her. Sometimes you become a clock watcher due to the client.

LOL...Language barrier..Ok let me explain, I'm British and when I'm at home when you tell someone they are naughty, it's like the equivalent to American's saying "You're so bad!"-in a jokingly manner.....Does that make sense? It's a bit difficult for me to articulate on a forum...

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by Valerie

LOL...Language barrier..Ok let me explain, I'm British and when I'm at home when you tell someone they are naughty, it's like the equivalent to American's saying "You're so bad!"-in a jokingly manner.....Does that make sense? It's a bit difficult for me to articulate on a forum...

OK. It's been too many years since I've been to Britain, and waaaay too many years since I've familiarized myself with British terminology/slang. However, I will say that I probably would have caught it sooner had I heard it rather than read it.

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

OK. It's been too many years since I've been to Britain, and waaaay too many years since I've familiarized myself with British terminology/slang. However, I will say that I probably would have caught it sooner had I heard it rather than read it.

No problem....I'm a bit used to people taking phrases I say the wrong way

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

[B]No I don't think you click with every client...I certainly haven't clicked with every escort I've seen. But however much I'd like not to believe it, a part of me does believe that the two major goals of each session are to get the money and get it over. Maybe I'm being too much of a cynic.

I really don`t know with which escorts you have been before, and i heard that in the USA the levels are different since its for time only and no services can be rendered (only the ones that are guided by happenings between two consenting adults and their decisions) . That is a problem, as you encountered it yourself. We europeans usually tend to prefer americans since they are way more easy going and not so spoiled (sorry, at least i am honest). In Europe escorting as being a sexworker goes with certain standards. Cities are smaller, so you cannot perform like a ripp off and have people come back to you.
SO its extremely important that you perform well, that is a first. I got taught by an older lady and introduced into the business, which helps a lot too. I was very young at that point.

To the click stuff: On some level you have to click with people to be able to spend a longer amount of time with. I do 4 hours minimum. I screen carefully, i check the vibes. There are a lot of people i don`t even answer, because their emails are too superficial. Or they are too much about sexual performance and details and want kind of cybersex. And then there are the ones (typical europeans - no american would do that) who completely misunderstand my homepage, and ask me specifically if i do that and that and that and that. These are the gents i get annoyed with even via email becuase they do not get the chemistry part. If someone encounters me only because "travelling to the greek islands" might be on the menu then he is not the right person for me. Period. I cannot say what i will do with one person and what with another. And that is BECAUSE of the chemistry part that is important.

Besides i am very much into kink and BDSM on some part, so its hard to tell upfront what you do and what you don`t do too. Its an experience.
In my escort life i did not have it at all that a client was not ok with me.

But - i used to work for agencies in London for example, who booked me with a guy who beat me up and almost raped me, held me down and hit me with a leather belt so hard that i could not sit anymore for days. Neither did i offer "that service" and i was even begging him to let me go, which he wouldn`t, and "boy was i glad to get out alive". I got so shocked that i could not even talk about that for a long time. So - yes - rest assured, i did not enjoy my session with that gent. And i certainly would not have repeated. I left London the day after and have not been working there ever since. So - believe me - i avoid shitty clients like the devil avoids the holy water.

So? I think you are a bit unrealistic. Just because the client is happy does not make it a good experience for me. And you can be VERY sure that i try not ever to get into an unhappy situation like the one above anymore. Oh, and i did not have time to check the watch because i was busy fearing for my life. Oh and did i do it for the money? Hm.. I don`t know. was a little too much effort i guess. I^d certainly not repeat :-)) (and actually it was not funny)

What i want to say with that story is that you underestimate reality in that business. No lady is interested in having a bad experience, and with the variety of clients people have a choice. I for example choose not to work in Austria, because i simply don`t like the system how its done. Period. I have a choice. Europe is big. Switzerland is great. The USA is even greater. My choice of clients. Period. My choice of life. Period.

[petiteassman]

i realize you are VERY articulate

Originally Posted by Valerie

LOL...Language barrier..Ok let me explain, I'm British and when I'm at home when you tell someone they are naughty, it's like the equivalent to American's saying "You're so bad!"-in a jokingly manner.....Does that make sense? It's a bit difficult for me to articulate on a forum...

[Silverfish]

Oh, I should have clarified, that when we do go over I do compensate accordingly......not looking to short change anyone......

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

OK. It's been too many years since I've been to Britain, and waaaay too many years since I've familiarized myself with British terminology/slang. However, I will say that I probably would have caught it sooner had I heard it rather than read it.

and when we are with humours - british one and austrian one: we austrians have a dry humour that is about death and sex, its viennese. So we make cynical jokes all the time. No one gets bothered by that. But i do understand in an international audience it can be misunderstood.



I think Valerie got me. The joke behind.