AMERICAN AMBASSADOR GANG RAPED THEN MURDERED BY MUSLIMS

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

All true and it is reprehensible.

But that is more an Afghan tribal (i.e., hillbilly) custom. We are taking Libya not Afghanistan.

Muslims are not predisposed to homosexuality to any greater degree than Christians, Jews or atheists. It is a genetic thing.

But they do have a huge cultural taboo about it.

We have seen far too many instances of Jihadis taking hostages and beheading them. But when have you heard before - FROM A RELIABLE NEW SOURCE - that they sodomized a hostage?

Does this count? It's from CBS News; you may have heard of them. It's also Libyans doing the sodomizing again.

GlobalPost: Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture

A frame by frame analysis of this exclusive GlobalPost video clearly shows the rebel trying to insert some kind of stick or knife into Gaddafi's rear end.

GlobalPost correspondent Tracey Shelton said there is some question as to whether the instrument was a knife from the end of a gun, which Libyans call a Bicketti, or a utilitiy tool known as a Becker Knife and Tool, which is popularly known as a BKT.

This latest video discovery comes as international and human rights groups call for a formal investigation into how the former Libyan leader was killed. In video clips that have emerged of his capture, Gaddafi can be seen injured but alive. Later he is seen with what appears to be gunshot wounds to his head and chest. According to the Geneva Conventions, however, abuse of prisoners under any circumstance is not permissable.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_1...after-capture/

[Whirlaway]

And for you to treat our enemies as equal is so Democratic and Progressive of you......

[Whirlaway]

ExNYer is sounding more like an arab apologist than ever.

[Whirlaway]

WTF ?????????????

what is genetic ................

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Muslims are not predisposed to homosexuality to any greater degree than Christians, Jews or atheists. It is a genetic thing.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

From what I've read, gay sex is not uncommon in the Muslim world. The percentage of gay Muslims is probably the same as the percentage of gays in any other population; just more closeted.

Rape is a crime of power. It is not essentially a sexual act. It is a way of establishing dominance and humiliating the victim; that's why rape is common in prisons.

The allegation, that the ambassador was sexually abused, may never be picked up by a major news source; that doesn't mean the story isn't true. Not every story can be completely corrorborated.

I think the major news sources are going to err on the side of caution on this story, in order to not be accused of being biggoted.

Yes, the percentage of gay Muslims is the same as any other population group. it is a genetic thing.

But I think gay activity is probably less common simply because it is so severely punished. I think Saudi Arabia still whips them publicly and will destroy their careers if they are found out.

So you end up with a lot of closeted gays stuck in miserable marriages.

But don't kid yourself about news organizations. First, if cannot corroborate it, you don't report it - because it is likely false.

And, second, they will still investigate it. And if there is a scintilla of truth, some mainstream news outlet (i.e., Fox) will run with it.

[Whirlaway]

Male on male rape - in the ME - isn't about homosexuality, but about power.......why do you even try to equate it.....

You seem to be going out of your way to minimize these behaviors.

[Whirlaway]

Many US news organizations have "blackout" polices on rape accusation.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

Yes, the percentage of gay Muslims is the same as any other population group. it is a genetic thing.

But I think gay activity is probably less common simply because it is so severely punished. I think Saudi Arabia still whips them publicly and will destroy their careers if they are found out.

So you end up with a lot of closeted gays stuck in miserable marriages.

But don't kid yourself about news organizations. First, if cannot corroborate it, you don't report it - because it is likely false.

And, second, they will still investigate it. And if there is a scintilla of truth, some mainstream news outlet (i.e., Fox) will run with it.

GlobalPost: Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture

Your thoughts?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

GlobalPost: Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture

Your thoughts?

When I first saw this thread headline that was my first thought when I then saw the disbelievers sounding off .... that is consistent with the treatment of Dafi.

It's about humliation and power.....it is not worthy of the tag ... "subhuman."

I am ashamed that there are people in this country who condone or excuse it by searching for justifications, rationalizations, and/or explanations so that they can support the embarrassment and shame we must endure because there is such a wimp occupying OUR HOUSE in D.C. No one deserves such treatment. No one.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Does this count? It's from CBS News; you may have heard of them. It's also Libyans doing the sodomizing again.

GlobalPost: Qaddafi apparently sodomized after capture

A frame by frame analysis of this exclusive GlobalPost video clearly shows the rebel trying to insert some kind of stick or knife into Gaddafi's rear end.

GlobalPost correspondent Tracey Shelton said there is some question as to whether the instrument was a knife from the end of a gun, which Libyans call a Bicketti, or a utilitiy tool known as a Becker Knife and Tool, which is popularly known as a BKT.

This latest video discovery comes as international and human rights groups call for a formal investigation into how the former Libyan leader was killed. In video clips that have emerged of his capture, Gaddafi can be seen injured but alive. Later he is seen with what appears to be gunshot wounds to his head and chest. According to the Geneva Conventions, however, abuse of prisoners under any circumstance is not permissable.

I can't see a damn think in that video it is so herky-jerky.

But assuming it is true that some guy stabbed him in the ass in the middle of a crowd that was beating, punching, and kicking him, I don't think that is sodomy in the true, conventional sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the legal definition. But if Khaddafy was turned around and this guy had stabbed him in the balls instead, no one would be calling it sodomy.

It think the guy was trying to mutilate Khaddafy and his ass was the closest target.

In the bad old days of Jim Crow, some of the blacks lynched by the Klan were castrated before or after the fact - especially if they were thought to have messed with a white woman. Do you really think that is a sex crime? Or just some low-life racist trying to send a message?

And the original link doesn't really say it was just sodomy. It said Stevens was gang raped. That is an organized activity involving penile-anal penetration. In other words, planned homosexual activity.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

When I first saw this thread headline that was my first thought when I then saw the disbelievers sounding off .... that is consistent with the treatment of Dafi.

It's about humliation and power.....it is not worthy of the tag ... "subhuman."

I am ashamed that there are people in this country who condone or excuse it by searching for justifications, rationalizations, and/or explanations so that they can support the embarrassment and shame we must endure because there is such a wimp occupying OUR HOUSE in D.C. No one deserves such treatment. No one.

again I have to ask the question ..

since when is it this or any other presidents responsibility to personally police any foreign embassy?

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

I can't see a damn think in that video it is so herky-jerky.

But assuming it is true that some guy stabbed him in the ass in the middle of a crowd that was beating, punching, and kicking him, I don't think that is sodomy in the true, conventional sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know the legal definition. But if Khaddafy was turned around and this guy had stabbed him in the balls instead, no one would be calling it sodomy.

It think the guy was trying to mutilate Khaddafy and his ass was the closest target.

In the bad old days of Jim Crow, some of the blacks lynched by the Klan were castrated before or after the fact - especially if they were thought to have messed with a white woman. Do you really think that is a sex crime? Or just some low-life racist trying to send a message?

And the original link doesn't really say it was just sodomy. It said Stevens was gang raped. That is an organized activity involving penile-anal penetration. In other words, planned homosexual activity.

What was lacking? Candlelight? Soft music? Maybe dinner and a movie first?

[Whirlaway]

Damn Joe...that is both funny and sharp.

Originally Posted by joe bloe

What was lacking? Candlelight? Soft music? Maybe dinner and a movie first?

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I don't think it so strange that our news organizations don't report the rape. In fact many organizations have a policy of NOT confirming such things...

Not true. Our news organization DO report rapes. They just don't identify the victim. And that only applies if the victim is still alive - to protect her privacy.

But privacy isn't a concern once they are dead. News outlets report instances of rape and murder all the time and they identify the deceased by name.

So, if in fact Stevens was raped and murdered, there wouldn't be any hesitation to report ALL of it.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Why do you give so much deference to these thugs in the name of "objectivity" is weird....I think it is better to assume the worse of these people....let them prove otherwise.

I do not give them any deference. I just don't believe lies.

And you are not assuming the worse about these people. You are passing on obvious lies about them. There is a difference.

Get it straight. You NEVER help your own cause by making up lies or repeating them. Whatever short term gain you get will be more than offset by your loss in credibility. No one will ever believe you again. You have ZERO chance of persuading the undecided once they know you are untrustworthy.

I think it is "weird" you go to such lengths to hold out the hope that it is true.

Is your hatred that deep that it turns you dishonest?

[joe bloe]

[QUOTE=ExNYer;3186782]Not true. Our news organization DO report rapes. They just don't identify the victim. And that only applies if the victim is still alive - to protect her privacy.

But privacy isn't a concern once they are dead. News outlets report instances of rape and murder all the time and they identify the deceased by name.

So, if in fact Stevens was raped and murdered, there wouldn't be any hesitation to report ALL of it.


I do not give them any deference. I just don't believe lies.

And you are not assuming the worse about these people. You are passing on obvious lies about them. There is a difference.

Get it straight. You NEVER help your own cause by making up lies or repeating them. Whatever short term gain you get will be more than offset by your loss in credibility. No one will ever believe you again. You have ZERO chance of persuading the undecided once they know you are untrustworthy.

I think it is "weird" you go to such lengths to hold out the hope that it is true.

Is your hatred that deep that it turns you dishonest?[/QUOTE]

Is it your fear of being called racist that makes you bend over backwards to put the most positive spin on Muslim behavior? You've got two cases of angry Muslim mobs sexually brutalizing people, and you won't admit that it increases the liklihood, it's happened again.

I think it's "weird" that you are carrying the water for our enemies.