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02-08-2011, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Now lets not loose the original Question here..As far as Paying for Providers Advertisement..I will have to Side with Whispers on that one..That should be left up to the Provider..For a Multitude of reasons...and not just the ones he brought up.....See I can even agree with Whispers at times...
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02-08-2011, 03:59 PM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
Join Date: Apr 30, 2009
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My point exactly! Guys that don't frequent SC will have to make that investment if they want to play in your space.
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Not really.... They can read reviews, Locker Room information, come to luncheons etc and meet the girls.
come On KBoy..... When you PMd me about a certain dancer you had lost contact with a while ago did you have to go mine the club for the information yourself were you sitting in VIP for lunch with a waitress ringing her up on a phone within a day or two....
How much time and money did you spend meeting K*** the other day? You could have left the club with her for the next 3-4 hours for less that $$$ or any of the girls you've met at any of the luncheons....
What is it? A $25 investment at a GC Event and a personal intro to a gal from one of the guys they trust? There are always a half dozen of us at least that know the girls...... or at least most of the girls.....
That's why we network.... networking allows you the benefits of our connections.....
I'm NOT the only StripClub guy..... I'm just the most vocal one..... There is a man in the mix with skills that rival mine and he lands ladies at times I can't... But we share!
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02-08-2011, 04:22 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2010
Location: Austin
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come On KBoy..... When you PMd me about a certain dancer you had lost contact with a while ago did you have to go mine the club for the information yourself were you sitting in VIP for lunch with a waitress ringing her up on a phone within a day or two....
How much time and money did you spend meeting K*** the other day? You could have left the club with her for the next 3-4 hours for less that $$$ or any of the girls you've met at any of the luncheons....
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Who me??? That was my "friend". Us Asians all look alike to you white guys!
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02-08-2011, 04:36 PM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
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Ok... It was the mask I guess....
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02-08-2011, 04:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 18, 2009
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No, I wasn't trying to compare a $2.35 and hour worker to a high priced escort. Nor do I want to have a surgeon working at $20/hr plus tips for a bypass procedure. My point is, that just because it's business, it doesn't mean that tips shouldn't be factored into the business model. It just depends. An indie provider that averages $200/hour, and books 4 appointments in a day is $800 per day. So on an hourly basis, over an 8-hour day she is "on-call", working, posting on Eccie, writing ads, in beauty maintenance procedures, at the gym staying slim, that is $100/hour. She is out of commission for some portion of the month due to Aunt Flo, say 15% of the time, so we are down to $85 per hour. If economy is bad, and she only gets 2 bookings per day, that is now $42.50 per hour. She is self employed so deduct all of the expenses now.
Now take a higher priced provider that charges $400 per hour list, and books 1 or 2 appointments a day. That still then works out to $42.50 to $85.00 an hour, except that her expenses are probably a little higher. Also, since she deals mostly with regulars, her recent price increase is all on paper. Her clients are all grandfathered in at $300 or $350. So the client feels special because he knows that she has made a special concession for him.
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Using your numbers she makes 2-3 times the median Austin income.
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02-08-2011, 05:02 PM
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Using your numbers she makes 2-3 times the median Austin income.
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But she has to... she can't do this forever. Career lifespan is maybe 10 years at most, less if pregnancy occurs. Probably in demand for half that time commanding those rates or even the appointment count. I think most ladies fib a little about their age (I'm going guess that the average fib is about 5 years), so by the time they have the maturity and experience to graduate from CL/Backpage, they may already be in their mid to late 20's.
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02-08-2011, 05:05 PM
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I think most ladies fib a little about their age.
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No fucking way. Do you really think so? Do you have any proof? That's one hell of an accusation to be throwing around.
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02-08-2011, 05:10 PM
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No fucking way. Do you really think so? Do you have any proof? That's one hell of an accusation to be throwing around.
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I will say that my current wife turned out to be 5 years older than what she claimed, after we were married!
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02-08-2011, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 28, 2009
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As long as we are hijacking this tread, I would like to say that "HoneyRose is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent,classy, stimulating and beautiful women that I have ever seen!
WiLson W Wilson
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02-08-2011, 06:04 PM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
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As long as we are hijacking this tread, I would like to say that "HoneyRose is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent,classy, stimulating and beautiful women that I have ever seen!
WiLson W Wilson
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Does that mean you would prepay or tip her?
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02-08-2011, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Dec 28, 2009
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Does that mean you would prepay or tip her?
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YEP!!! I have never done it before, but I would definately do it again.
WiLsOn W Wilson
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02-08-2011, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: May 26, 2010
Location: Austin
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But she has to... she can't do this forever. Career lifespan is maybe 10 years at most, less if pregnancy occurs. Probably in demand for half that time commanding those rates or even the appointment count. I think most ladies fib a little about their age (I'm going guess that the average fib is about 5 years), so by the time they have the maturity and experience to graduate from CL/Backpage, they may already be in their mid to late 20's.
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you are, of course, assuming that they actually have an exit strategy in play and are actively saving up every spare penny they make to execute said strategy? And, before you all jump on me, I'm sure there are a few financially savvy ladies that do as exhibited by their posts to that effect. But for the most part, it seems as many are just relying on the continued market for a source of income....
And why can't they do this forever? How many retire to just come back to the easy money? Even gilf's seem to have a market share LOL
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02-09-2011, 02:20 AM
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Join Date: Feb 6, 2010
Location: In LaLaa Land
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question to the Op...
i didnt read all of the post
but...is there now a point system here like there is on p411?
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02-09-2011, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 17, 2009
Location: Austin
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I do not think that when you pay for your p411 acct that you can have just any person's cc to buy points. Am I wrong here? I was always under the impression that to buy points, I had to be the purchaser. Hmm... let me check p411 for the rule.
I don't like the idea of anyone leaving a trail that doesn't belong to them. But that's just me.
Whatever works for y'all is ok for y'all.
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02-09-2011, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 28, 2009
Location: austin
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HoneyRose,
I personally think you should avoid that. I think you might have some assholes feel that they are owed money off a session since they helped you with advertising. I wouldn't want anyone to feel I owed them shit. Pay for your own advertisement so you don't ever be made to feel obligated to anyone....
sixx
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