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Old 10-09-2014, 01:43 PM   #31
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Y'all can go on and on and on about this shit.

If a person can play guitar, they can inspire.

There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.

NO ONE is the best ever!
Damn Straight! Wish I had said that, was trying to.

How 'bout that Peter Green!

This shit can go on all day. Tomorrow too.
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:43 PM   #32
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I'm taking notes of all these players yall are mentioning that I haven't really heard of. I want to hear how good they were. Hopefully I can find some decent recordings online.

You tube!
You'll recognize the tunes I mentioned even if you don't recognize the names.



BTW Jessica was Betts' daughter.

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Old 10-09-2014, 01:54 PM   #33
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Y'all can go on and on and on about this shit.

If a person can play guitar, they can inspire.

There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.

NO ONE is the best ever!
You're right,
It's like debating Van Gohg vs. Picasso vs. Michelangelo.

Some love the use of light and color, some appreciate the strokes still others seek to understand the meaning of the whole work.

It's still fun to talk about...and remember.
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Y'all can go on and on and on about this shit.

If a person can play guitar, they can inspire.

There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.

NO ONE is the best ever!
I partly agree. Anyone with instrument talent can inspire and there will never be a one absolute best ever but consensus rules the day. Just as quality and grade are not the same neither is precision the same as accuracy. There are classes. A, B, and C. and of your million only a small % bubble up to the top and get the consensus approval.

So while Michael Jordan, in group A , Patrick Ewing in group B, and Kenny Smith in group C can all play and inspire it's obvious MJ is the best of the bunch. If you don't think this is a good example then feel free to explain why. I could be wrong.

edit: So in other words I'm not going to let you lump the best guitarists of all time in with joe blow if joe blow should be in that class then let joe blow rise to the top.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:43 PM   #35
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You tube!
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BTW Jessica was Betts' daughter.

Be careful. You'll get sucked into the YouTube Vortex.
I enjoyed that one thanks. I guess I can watch that stuff all day because I see myself actually playing vs. sitting in the audience. LOL
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I love Jimi but do you think he gets sentimental Woodstock points. Where do you think he ranked before Woodstock followed closely by his death in 1970.

Anything is possible, I suppose....perhaps even in this case. Say for instance if Jimi hadn't performed at Woodstock and Eric Clapton (Cream) or Jimmy Page (Zep) had? Would either one of these Brits get that "sentimental" nod as the all-time Number One by the voters (or the individual who put that list together)? It's a question worth asking ourselves and it's likely you'd get strong arguments either way.

But IMHO, Jimi was already regarded by many as the best of his generation (with or without the benefit of playing Woodstock)....his early demise may have fortified that legendary status simply because the living find it difficult to detach themselves from "what if" (he'd lived to a ripe ol' age).....so we immortalize him as the greatest in order to cover that "lost potential" scenario.
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Anything is possible, I suppose....perhaps even in this case. Say for instance if Jimi hadn't performed at Woodstock and Eric Clapton (Cream) or Jimmy Page (Zep) had? Would either one of these Brits get that "sentimental" nod as the all-time Number One by the voters (or the individual who put that list together)? It's a question worth asking ourselves and it's likely you'd get strong arguments either way.

But IMHO, Jimi was already regarded by many as the best of his generation (with or without the benefit of playing Woodstock)....his early demise may have fortified that legendary status simply because the living find it difficult to detach themselves from "what if" (he'd lived to a ripe ol' age).....so we immortalize him as the greatest in order to cover that "lost potential" scenario.
You seem to know your stuff and have pretty good analysis. Let me ask you why doesn't Santana get any serious mention with the all-time greats. He's pretty dam awesome.
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:47 PM   #38
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Clapton is older than dirt but can still dropkick that list. Slowhand stands alone.
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There are a some others that are not on the list, but should be.

1. Carlos Santana. Saw him and his band last week at Bayou Place. 67 and still great. He created an entirely original sound, Latin R and R with lots of jamming.
2. Mark Knopfler, of Dire Straits fame. Eric Clapton is "Slow Hands". Mark Knopfler is "Smooth Hands". That's because he is a finger picker. When you watch him, his picking hand appears to be still, while the great notes are blasting out of that guitar. My favorite musician overall and member of the "Song Writers Hall Of Fame". Every song on every album his was written by him, except for MTV, which was co-written with Sting, who shares vocals on that song. Got to see him in a 1,500 seat auditorium in Santa Rosa, California, 6th row.
3. Leo Kotke. Best acoustical guitar player ever. Finger picks a twelve string.
4. Jerry Douglas. Best Dobro player. Has a current hit, "The Fighter", performed with Marcus Mumford. Plays with Allison Krause and Union Station.
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And you can add Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen to that list if you wanna get into technical guitar players.....
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And you can add Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen to that list if you wanna get into technical guitar players.....

Russ - I like some of Satriani's stuff very technical but you gotta combine that with some hits that move the crowd otherwise you kinda get lost in the shuffle.
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Old 10-09-2014, 05:41 PM   #42
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You tube!
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BTW Jessica was Betts' daughter.

Be careful. You'll get sucked into the YouTube Vortex.
Yep...sucked in once again. Below is ABB with Duane and Dicky playing in Filmore East in NY. Not much video of Duane out there ..so this is awesome.

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Russ - I like some of Satriani's stuff very technical but you gotta combine that with some hits that move the crowd otherwise you kinda get lost in the shuffle.
I've seen all three perform live and believe me, the crowd was moved.....but then again, I never followed the mainstream crowd.....
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^ I hear ya nothing wrong with that
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:03 PM   #45
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Mike Bloomfield, Phil Keaggy, Jerry Garcia of course, Al Kooper, Zappa, Steve Cropper, Danny Kirwan, Dave Mason...no end to this shit. I like 'em all.
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