Biden denies F'ing up the Afgan evacuation

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by CaptainTruth

20 year war is over. Done. Other wars don't have a hard date of pulling out of the war zone. This one did, but it was extended once. The DOHA agreement was drafted during Trump's administration. That is basically a surrender. Trump fucked that up by not including the Afghan government in this agreement. He surrendered directly to the terrorist Taliban.

You are just an layzboy armchair General. Why didn't trump exit while he was President? He is too chicken shit to do something like that. We trained and supplied the Afghans for years. I suppose your answer was to send a 50000+ fighting force over again and extend this stupid war for years. Fuck that is stupid. Every withdrawal is successful at some point as it is just a transition to a non war situation.

Americans living there had over a year to exit, if they didn't then that is their problem. Don't think there has been any problem so far with being left behind. CIA is there doing their thing where needed.

What stupid comments you make... Really sad.

Trump EXPECTED to still be President during the withdrawal.
And, of course Biden had to shit on things and NOT
do the withdrawal in a timely manner.

And then the dotty bludger "took his eye away from the ball"
and his evacuation GOT AMERICANS KILLED.

... No bleedin' wonder Biden was crying there like a wuss
at the podium... Showing "American Strength" once again.

THAT surely would NOT have happened under Trump.

Nor would the SKY-HIGH energy prices and runaway HIGH inflation.

#### Salty

[Tiny]

Joe Biden has absconded with $7 billion that was held by the Afghan central bank at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Half will go for Afghan relief efforts and the other 3.5 billion will go to support 9/11 relief efforts in the USA.

The Afghan people are destitute. People are starving. That $3.5 billion that we’re stealing could go a long way.

I’d argue we should have left the entire 7 billion under the control of the Taliban. We’re shutting the country out of the international banking system. And this isn’t good for the USA. We’ve got the world’s reserve currency, which carries with it many benefits. This stunt is an example of other acts, like our over reliance on sanctions, which are going to make other countries want to keep their reserves in the Euro, Swiss Franc and Japanese Yen, and bypass the dollar for trade transactions and the like.

The Taliban likely will remain in control of Afghanistan for many years. Impoverishing the Afghan people to avoid the appearance of support for the Taliban is a bad idea.

[Tiny]

And I wonder where the great Progressives AOC and Schumer are on this? Undoubtedly squarely behind Biden since this benefits New York.

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Joe Biden has absconded with $7 billion that was held by the Afghan central bank at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Half will go for Afghan relief efforts and the other 3.5 billion will go to support 9/11 relief efforts in the USA.

The Afghan people are destitute. People are starving. That $3.5 billion that we’re stealing could go a long way.

I’d argue we should have left the entire 7 billion under the control of the Taliban. We’re shutting the country out of the international banking system. And this isn’t good for the USA. We’ve got the world’s reserve currency, which carries with it many benefits. This stunt is an example of other acts, like our over reliance on sanctions, which are going to make other countries want to keep their reserves in the Euro, Swiss Franc and Japanese Yen, and bypass the dollar for trade transactions and the like.

The Taliban likely will remain in control of Afghanistan for many years. Impoverishing the Afghan people to avoid the appearance of support for the Taliban is a bad idea.

I sure wish all the teary-eyed rightards that bring this shit up would put some of that energy towards starving families and kids in the US.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

I sure wish all the teary-eyed rightards that bring this shit up would put some of that energy towards starving families and kids in the US.

GDP per capita in Afghanistan is $500 per person in nominal terms and $2000 after adjusting for purchasing power. They really are starving.

Could you point me towards ANY starving families in the USA? Or maybe even a few that are receiving less than $2000 per person in combined wages and government benefits?

And why the sudden concern for starving Americans. Not long ago you were posting about how all was great in America and how well you’d done over the last year or so.

Btw, the one thing in Biden’s BBB plan that was worth supporting was the credit for kids, IF they were just going to pay it to the needy. And that alone would probably get enough bipartisan support to get through the Senate without reconciliation

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Tiny

GDP per capita in Afghanistan is $500 per person in nominal terms and $2000 after adjusting for purchasing power. They really are starving.

Could you point me towards ANY starving families in the USA? Or maybe even a few that are receiving less than $2000 per person in combined wages and government benefits?

And why the sudden concern for starving Americans. Not long ago you were posting about how all was great in America and how well you’d done over the last year or so.

Btw, the one thing in Biden’s BBB plan that was worth supporting was the credit for kids, IF they were just going to pay it to the needy. And that alone would probably get enough bipartisan support to get through the Senate without reconciliation

Nothing about me doing great takes away from the fact that there are children in poverty in the US that could use the help. Since you're so concerned about the poor folks in Afghanistan, why not get your ass on a plane and go help sort it all out.


There's plenty of countries in the same spot they are. I thought you rightards were all about "MURIKA FIRST." You may need to turn in your trumptard patch.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

There's plenty of countries in the same spot they are. I thought you rightards were all about "MURIKA FIRST." You may need to turn in your trumptard patch.

You’re the one playing the “MURIKA FIRST” card, to try to justify the deaths of Afghan children because Joe Biden stole $3.5 billion. And you should give thanks every morning when you wake up for President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. Without it you or one of your loved ones might be dead.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

In this case what came in, is what was there when we started. That has to be seen as a complete failure. In my opinion, we should have left Afghanistan as soon as the Taliban was routed and recognized that there was no way in hell we would keep them out. As the Taliban said "you have the watches, we have the time". Why didn't we learn that lesson from Vietnam?


In Iraq, one of the biggest mistakes we made was trying to expel the entire Baath Party destroying the very ability of the country to function and thinking we could. We should have left the Army intact because most of them didn't want to fight anyway especially after years of fighting Iran. Again, trying to nation build failed us. Will we never learn?

EXACTLY!

Because of that, you got idiots point fingers at who they believe caused supposedly recently created problems.

Seems people are too systemically stupid to see the point and source of the real problem. And it ain't just one person or small group of such. Gotta state that for the peabrain gallery.

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Tiny

You’re the one playing the “MURIKA FIRST” card, to try to justify the deaths of Afghan children because Joe Biden stole $3.5 billion. And you should give thanks every morning when you wake up for President Trump’s Operation Warp Speed. Without it you or one of your loved ones might be dead.

So it's your position that if I think we should take care of kids here BEFORE running off to take care of them somewhere else, then I want the Afghans to starve? That's stupid and doesn't reflect my position.

Cry your crocodile tears for Afghani's while they kill the tax break that pulled millions of US children out of poverty. The only reason you're going on about this is to get some points for bashing Biden. He's not my favorite either, but I'll take him over drumpf any motherfucking day.


Also, I guess bambeano doesn't realize drumpf helped get the vaccines developed, and took those along with the booster. #selfawarewolves

[Computerwise]

Anyone who says the fiasco of the Afghanistan withdrawal was a success is either as demented as Biden or mentally ill.

First Biden did not stick to Trjmps agreement with the pipeline, did not stick to Trumps agreement with Mexico and the border, did not stick to any of Trumps agreement in fact Bidens entire policy in office was not what was best for the nation it was to simply undo anything Trump did. But wait this one agreement was soon biding that Biden had to abide by it, "Come on man!" Hiw dumb are you and how dumb does Bjden think the American people are. Biden was not obligated to stick to that agreement.

Second no one is arguing that it was time to get put. Have to give Trump credit for that decision. But no cannot do that because we'll he is Trump. Apparently we all agree with Trump it was time to get out, even Biden agreed with that. It is is the way we got out that was a fiasco. Service members died needlessly, we left technology, weapons, equipment in the hands of our enemies. That is not a successful withdrawal by any stretch of any imagination.

A successful withdrawal would have gotten all our equipment, technology, weapons back and most importantly All our people and allies. We would not have abandoned so many, and let allies die of it were a success.

Third the appearance of incompetence in the international commumity may be a cause for why Taiwan is being threatened and Ukraine. Biden's stupidity hit Americans killed and now has the potential of leading to a major war where in millions will be killed.

If that withdrawal is called a success what would one call a catastrophe??

This has to be the dumbest debate or argument I ever read. Not a single left radical person stares Afghanistan was a success except Biden but he is too stupid or Mentally ill to know any better.

[bambino]

https://t.me/rrndaily/189408

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by bambino

https://t.me/rrndaily/189408

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[dilbert firestorm]

trump should have not negotiated with the taliban and pressured the then afghan gov to release taliban fighters.


this is pretty much on trump and obama.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

this is pretty much on trump.

FIFY

The withdrawal from AG is Trump's mess. If the suicide bomber didn't get through there would be nothing for the talking heads at Fox to complain about. Trying to get another extension could have lead to more war and more casualties on our side. Biden did well to not ask for another leave date.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

FIFY

The withdrawal from AG is Trump's mess.

It's too bad you have no clue as to the terms set by Trump.

But I would expect nothing less of you. Your jealousy of Trump overwhelms your thoughts.