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Old 02-15-2021, 07:08 AM   #31
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The senators quoted in that article are living in a fantasy land. Trump would EASILY get the Republican nomination if he wants it. It’s only politicians who don’t like him. His support from the people is as strong, or stronger, than its ever been.
The support from HIS people is as strong as ever. Trump left office with a 39% approval rating. A PEW Research poll had him at 29% approval. It's not only politicians who do not like him.

Trump's conduct since the election has turned many of his former supporters away from him. The decision Republicans must make is whether to stick with him or move away from him. He will always have his base supporters but that won't be enough to carry him to victory if he decides to run again in 2024. He would lose by a larger margin than he did in 2020. He couldn't even beat Biden, a candidate with more than a few flaws.
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:08 AM   #32
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And Biden was ahead by 10 points in states President Trump won, the polls are gaslighting horseshit, nearly as much so as biden’s vote count. It’s not up to the Republican machine whether he runs or not, his support is WAY over any other Republican in Washington. If he wants the nomination it’s his.
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The support from HIS people is as strong as ever. Trump left office with a 39% approval rating. A PEW Research poll had him at 29% approval. It's not only politicians who do not like him.

Trump's conduct since the election has turned many of his former supporters away from him. The decision Republicans must make is whether to stick with him or move away from him. He will always have his base supporters but that won't be enough to carry him to victory if he decides to run again in 2024. He would lose by a larger margin than he did in 2020. He couldn't even beat Biden, a candidate with more than a few flaws.
Trump probably won't run in 2024, but he may support a candidate. Even if he does decide to run again that decision maybe contingent upon the outcome of the Biden administration.
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:14 AM   #34
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... It’s not up to the Republican machine whether he runs or not, his support is WAY over any other Republican in Washington. If he wants the nomination it’s his.
You forget to whom you are addressing your remarks. The Pollster!

In 2024 the Republicans will exercise the right to mail ballots.

The whining will remind all of 2000 & 2016.

The Dumbocrats keep up their "good work" into 2022 there will be a Congressional thirst for IMPEACHMENT ALA DUMBOCRAT STYLE .... at least twice before 2024!
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:38 AM   #35
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The support from HIS people is as strong as ever. Trump left office with a 39% approval rating. A PEW Research poll had him at 29% approval. It's not only politicians who do not like him.

Trump's conduct since the election has turned many of his former supporters away from him. The decision Republicans must make is whether to stick with him or move away from him. He will always have his base supporters but that won't be enough to carry him to victory if he decides to run again in 2024. He would lose by a larger margin than he did in 2020. He couldn't even beat Biden, a candidate with more than a few flaws.

Polls are just slanted opinions - SR - all your 'polls' are manufactured in China.

the real result was skews by DPST/ccp Voter Fraud - an area of excellence of teh DPST/ccp party.


So - sr - you and teh DPST 's do your damndest to enforce marxim and jackboot totalitarianism in America

If you leave any opening for free and honest elections in 2022 - Beware.

and remember - Middle America believes in 'From my cold, dead hands"!
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:56 AM   #36
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And Biden was ahead by 10 points in states President Trump won, the polls are gaslighting horseshit, nearly as much so as biden’s vote count. It’s not up to the Republican machine whether he runs or not, his support is WAY over any other Republican in Washington. If he wants the nomination it’s his.

I think the smart money will be on "can this person win the General election not just the nomination". Republicans will be asked this question during the nominating process and as much as they might still like Trump, they will have to ask themselves that question because what good does it do to nominate somebody who "arguably" lost the last election by 8 million votes to a guy that a great many Democrats didn't really care for but did an "anybody but Trump vote". You don't want to nominate somebody that will garner the most "anybody but" vote, I would think



Whether Trump could win the nomination could come down to, does he get convicted of any of the crimes he is likely to be charged with. I think a conviction would be a check against getting the nomination.



But if he skates, it will come down to who his opponent is. It may not be so easy to see somebody getting more enthusiasm than Trump right now but who knows who will rise to the top in 4 years. My bet is ( and this is way early to be saying this ) is Tom Cotten.


Then we'll also have to see if Biden has been weakened or some how ( I can't imagine how ) has a successful 4 years or even a so so 4 years. Want to take a risk that the guy that beat you before can't do it again?


The wild card is Kamala Harris, who thoroughly washed out in the Democrat nominating process and I can't see her value rising but even she could benefit from the "anybody but Trump" vote.


I think Trump's influence will diminish, not rise. I can't imagine my mind will change from what I'm thinking right now and that is "anybody but Biden or Harris" in 2024 and yes, that would include Trump whether I thought he could actually win or not.
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:09 AM   #37
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HF - I tend to agree in some ways
Trump is 74 years old - and aged by the unrelenting hatred and persecution of he DPST's.

2024 - he will be too old, and I doubt will have any appetite for another run - even if he escapes the innumerable 'persecutions in the DPST star chambers planned for him.


Trump is done - as far as POTUS - whether he can pull a 'Nixon" and become a respected resource for sitting Presidents - particularly in foreign policy - is 'doubtful' in my mind.



the DPST's - in their hatred - set a very bad precedent with their persecutions of Trump after his exit from the White house.

Fiden - and his family crime syndicate- is very vulnerable - if Conservatives retake Congress and teh White house.



Conservatives have several interesting candidates wit potential - if they choose to run


NikkiHhaley
Tom Cotton,
Mike Pence-


2024 is a long ways off - and teh DPST's have some time to attempt to enforce their marxist One party Rule.

and will do so to their eternal regret - Middle America is Armed - and will stay Armed against the marxist DPST jackboot tyranny!
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