The Democratic Convention 2012, Best I have seen in years

[joe bloe]

It's the best Democratic Convention anyone has seen in four years.

[cptjohnstone]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Rumor has it that Helen Keller might have agreed.

BTW, here’s a hit from 1982 you might enjoy.

“She Got The Gold Mine (I Got The Shaft)” - by Jerry Reed

They give her the goldmine,
They give me the shaft.
They said they're splittin' it all down the middle,
But she got the better half.
Well, it all sounds mighty funny,
But it hurts too much to laugh.
She got the goldmine, I got the shaft.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-p0zn3PijY

that was written by a guy I went to college with, Tim Dubois who also wrote Sweet Home Alabama and was producer for Brooks and Dunn

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

that was written by a guy I went to college with, Tim Dubois who also wrote Sweet Home Alabama and was producer for Brooks and Dunn

Fascinating. I liked both songs. "Sweet Home Alabama" is an anthem.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Au contraire!

Everybody was watching, probably even you, but with a scowl.

Nevertheless, the Democrats are on a roll.

. . . President Obama is going to win the election!

but he won;t get the mandate.

[Randy4Candy]

IB, sounds good, but - WRONG AGAIN! Percentage of debt held by the public? Big F*cking Deal! Just another meaningless bit of statistical "truthiness." BTW, if one looks closely at the point where we are in your graph it can be seen that it's not the highest. Also, as it always the case, when income rises, the line falls. Now, who is trying to keep the income down? Yep, it's you TPunk Parrotriots all whored-up to guard the corporatists in order for them to give their tax dollars to other countries. Talk about patriotism. You guys are really right up there with the Founding Fathers, aren't you?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

IB, sounds good, but - WRONG AGAIN! Percentage of debt held by the public? Big F*cking Deal! Just another meaningless bit of statistical "truthiness."

No, Randy4Andy. I am not wrong. You are a dissembling liar when you state otherwise.

[Randy4Candy]

Because YOU said it? hee hee, right!

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

Because YOU said it? hee hee, right!

Your argument was refuted at every point with facts. You lied when you claimed the wars were not factored into the debt curve on the chart provided. You lied when you claimed the Dim Congress under Bush 43 forced the CBO to account for the wars in the budget. You lie when you claim the debt/GDP ratio is "irrelevant". You lie when you claim that the Dims are not responsible for the debt/GDP ratio of 63% under Odumbo.

[TexTushHog]

Very preliminary, as all information from five day rolling tracking polls are, but it looks like Obama MAY be getting a post convention bump.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...ion-bounce/?hp

Obviously something to keep an eye on.

[HoustonMilfDebbie]

Originally Posted by CJ7

followed up by two wars, three revenue reducing tax cuts and 1100 spending bills passed in 1700 days kind of LEGACY ..

specifically deb ...

Okay, take a look at this link if you think the Bush Era is not responsible for much of our debt.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_864812.html

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by HoustonMilfDebbie

Okay, take a look at this link if you think the Bush Era is not responsible for much of our debt.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_864812.html

Ms HMD, study your cited chart more carefully (especially the time periods):



Questions:
1) Do you remember what party took over Congress in January 2007?
2) Do you remember what happened to the housing market in 2008?
3) What happened as a result of the collapse of the housing market?
4) What happens in a period of high unemployment?
5) What brought about the collapse of the housing market?
6) Who signed the act repealing Glass-Steagall?

Answers:
1) the Dims
2) the housing market collapsed
3) decrease in jobs; DECREASED GDP; increase in unemployment
4) DECREASED TAX REVENUE; DECREASED GDP; INCREASED SOCIAL PROGRAMS SPENDING
5) The 1999 Financial Services Modernization Act repealing the Glass-Steagall Act
6) Slick Willie -- Slick Willie's signature on the 1999 Financial Services Modernization Act -- which led to the loss of 10s of thousands of jobs -- eventually cut as much or more revenue going into the government's coffers as Bush 43's tax cuts.

Now remember that the Dims controlled both houses of Congress from January 2007 until January 2011 in addition to controlling the executive branch from 2009 through to 2013. Since 2009, the Dims still control one house of Congress and the executive branch.

But if you wish to persist in denying the obvious, please explain in detail how unemployed workers can continue to pay taxes into the government coffers when the workers have no income. Please explain how increased unemployment contributes to increased GDP. Finally, please explain how increased social welfare spending reduces debt.

NOTE: Anyone in the peanut gallery claiming -- like Huffy, Odumbo and Slick Willie -- that it's all "Bush's fault", s/he is a liar. Bush 43's tax cuts in conjunction with the two wars were sustainable and added on only 5% (from Clinton's 35% to Bush 43's 40%) to the debt/GDP ratio. What made the government debt/GDP ratio unsustainable was the housing market collapse in 2008. By 2010, under Odumbo, the debt/GDP ratio went to an increasingly unsustainable rate of 63%.

One more note: Republicans wrote the 1999 Financial Services Modernization Act, and one of Odumbo's original financial advisers (who had also worked for Slick Willie) promoted the Act as necessary for expediting the housing of the poor. So, everyone's fingerprints are all over that travesty. But to date, no one has fixed the real problems, reinstating something akin to Glass-Steagall, to keep it from happening again.

[HoustonMilfDebbie]

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

[HoustonMilfDebbie]

Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Au contraire!

Everybody was watching, probably even you, but with a scowl.

Nevertheless, the Democrats are on a roll.

. . . President Obama is going to win the election!

Democrats are on a roll because it's well deserved. Anyone that is smart can see that. The mere fact that Obama has Clinton on his side is a truth. Let's take a look at the kind of government that founded this Country!

[CuteOldGuy]

I wish the Democrats believed in that.

[Yssup Rider]

I never cease to marvel to marvel at the depths of hatred and stupidity some of you "regular" posters achieve in every thread in this forum. Id like, just once, to see something resembling social and political discourse in your response other than "he's a moron" or "Obummr is toast" or "Fucking idiots!".

Wait a sec ... Fucking idiots is mine!

Never mind.

Carry on, ye mouth breathers. and please, brush up on your rithmatic!