Why Don't Men Like Girls that aren't GFE?

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

GFE should mimic what a guy does with an actual gf. It would include dfk, bbbj, daty, cfs. Could also include cim and dato.

Originally Posted by VegasJen

GFE has NOTHING to do with whether a condom is used. Condoms should always be used, even with a gfe session. GFE is about the attitude, level of interraction, etc. Its largely what sets apart a true courtesan from a hooker.

Wrong. True GFE involves a lot of begging and blue balls.

[bankai]

it's pretty hard because we don't know each other and for slot of men we prefer a bit of gfe experience.

Even backpage it's hard feeling like it's money well spent since it's covered and no connection.

it's a tough hobby for some, for me it's hard to warranty spending hundreds for. covered, no kissing, no touching experience.

[bankai]

I've had experience where I would have better fun masterbating than spending money on a non gfe provider.

at the end of the day its fantasy and if a man can meet. a woman who can fulfill his fantasy he's gonna stick with it.

nonngfe is a turn off I need to be aroused, kissing, sucking, touching need to be on the menu if it's not then honestly it's a waste of money. I've had strippers want a couple hundred for some time and felt. it was a waste.

true feelings really need to be involved or get a girl who can fake it. the best escorts who have a large base of clients are great at taking it and understand it's a business.

you. got four hundred pound John's who get the best sex in their life from a good provider who message them feel like a king for a hour or two.

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Wrong. True GFE involves a lot of begging and blue balls.

We're talking hobby GFE, not real life GFE. LOL

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by GoAheadMkMyDay

NEVER had a GIRL FRIEND use a condom for a BJ. Even if not a girlfriend, I've never had a civvie friend use a condom for a BJ.

I never knew cbj's existed until I started hobbying.

[EastTexasGrown]

Originally Posted by GoAheadMkMyDay

Sorry ladies, but with all due respect, you're full of it. The term was invented to describe the sort of thing you'd expect from a GIRL FRIEND. While I've had girlfriends where condoms were used, the ONLY time and reason was for CFS to prevent unexpected and unwanted procreative accidents. NEVER had a GIRL FRIEND use a condom for a BJ. Even if not a girlfriend, I've never had a civvie friend use a condom for a BJ. If she tried to do that with me she never make it to the level of a girlfriend. And yes, I will readily and happily agree that this is not the only criterion the defines GFE, as VegasJen, stated, but this and several of those could all individually break the experience.

Mic Drop!! Nothing else needs to be said. That covers it all. If you show your services to be GFE but provide CBJ, then you are misrepresenting your services.

Notice, no one has said you don't have the right to be CBJ only. That is a providers right and I can fully respect that. There is room for you here on Eccie. Properly advertise your services that are offered. If you are CBJ, then you are NON-GFE just as if you do not allowing kissing.

Now when you do advertise you are NON-GFE and a guy gives you a hard time for being so and he belittles you or tries to persuade you to do a service you do not offer, then he is a PRICK, SOB, ASSHOLE and doesn't even deserve a response from you. Simply BLOCK the poor excuse of a human being!

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by Mya Exxxotic

I've been turned down many times over it.
I don't understand why someone couldn't have fun with protected...

A GFE is sex period.. Covered or not.. So it sounds to ME like they don't understand the proper Terminology.. Where as a PSE (Porn star experience) is most often condomless..

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

As for cbj's, they simply don't feel as good as bbbj's. There's simply no getting around that. I find nothing erotic about a covered bj.

And depending ON the rubber, some just can't complete even with a great BJ while covered.. Cause the sensation is too dulled..

Originally Posted by RyanFromTER

Why don't girls like guys with a bus pass?

A # of years back, one of my gaming comrades kept getting shot DOWN by the gals when he went out, as they ALL saw him as too cheep/ain't got money.. TILL One found out via the local business section, he OWNED 18 businesses and was worth over 3 mil or something.. THEN THEY were the ones trying to hook up with HIM.
I loved his statement TO those gold diggers.
"If you didn't even want to look, let alone speak to me before you knew i was rich, BY WHAT logic to you think i would even give any of you the time of day, now You are the ones clawing to get TO me cause you DO KNOW i am rich"?

Made me laugh. Especially as several actually broke down in tears cause "he rejected them"..

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

I doubt most cbj gals are too concerned about that. Many cbj gals don't allow daty anyways.

Very true. I've met many ladies who are rabid against having guys go down on them. Some don't even like guys fingering them..

Originally Posted by pyramider

Wrong. True GFE involves a lot of begging and blue balls.

Or buying lots of gifts, taking out to dinner often and letting them buy all the shoes they want on your dime! Just like married people do, when they wanna get it from wifey..

Originally Posted by bankai

I've had strippers want a couple hundred for some time and felt. it was a waste. .

As a younger adult, i used to frequent the lapdance places out in Portsmouth, when i was stationed at NOB Norfolk.. It's been almost 20 years since i last entered a strip joint, cause there's just no more excitement..

[bankai]

Originally Posted by cowboy8055

We're talking hobby GFE, not real life GFE. LOL

gfe is gfe the good escorts know to turn every man into Brad Pitt to keep the bills paid. those who don't understand that don't do as well as the ones who do.

truth be told alot of girls really get into it thinking easy money. everything covered, no talking, just robotic and it's a turn off. I hope more guys stay away from them.

[spa999]

LOL, yep. Very few women seek out a man bc they love him. Human females have evolved to be hypergamous and materialistic. Not an insult, just an observation. In fact, fair to say if human females were NOT hypergamous and materialistic when choosing mates, a lot of us wouldn't be alive today. The reason human males have evolved to be so good at doing useful, profitable things is bc human females have preferred and pursued such males, rewarding behaviors that advance and enrich our species. Helps explain how we got so intelligent, too.

But to an individual man, who wants to be loved and appreciated for his raw decency, humanity, and overall goodness, this reality is disappointing, nay, infuriating. I am sorry for such men. And, I see where they are coming from.

But Nature is a ruthless bitch. She cares not abt your feelings. All she wants is babies. And she wants them cared for, provided for, and protected. Human women for >99.999% of human history, have been largely incapable of providing for and protecting themselves and their offspring. Men were not just generally necessary as we are today for the race's survival, but men were personally necessary for women to have close to them just to keep them from freezing to death, being eaten by wolves, and starving to death. Esp. when pregnant, women are almost completely helpless as animals go. Men otoh are really good at cooperative hunting, fighting as a team, fighting hand to hand in single combat, and are very good at assessing fast-evolving, dangerous situations and reacting physically to them in such a way as to mitigate them. We are this way bc Nature made us this way. So women have evolved to find men capable of providing and protecting to be very attractive as mates, even if they no longer have any practical need of men as provider/protectors due to the amazing job men have done making modern human society so easy and safe to live in that women no longer need men personally in their lives.

But when they do go looking for a man, they still want guys with loads of cash. (And large cocks, but that is far less important than large wads of cash. She can get large cock from someone else on the side.)

They'll do and say anything to get a man with lots of money. Such men are rare and usually taken. Once they find a rich available guy, they shit themselves trying to get to him. They'll do and say anything to get his money (and I have, unfortunately, with practice learned to spot these efforts no matter how hard the girl tries to cloak it). Sound familiar? Hookers'll tell you anything to get your money. Well, hookers are women. Johns are men with money. They are no different from "normal" women and vice versa. Just a different M.O., that's all.

This is why I don't date "normal" women nor seek to have a gf or get married. I have yet to meet a woman who wasn't a whore, incl. my own mother. So why bother w/ "normal" women and pretend they are any diff from the hookers I fuck? They aren't. Only with hookers, I don't have to deal with drama, bullshit, bitching, w/holding sex, gold-digging (except standard hooker bullshit), etc. Fucking whores is in the long run cheaper than dealing with "normal" women, too, and no divorce leading to huge amts. of YOUR money going to her w/out her lifting a finger to earn it other than to say "I do" in the right place at the right time. Some guys are suckers.

Originally Posted by garhkal

A # of years back, one of my gaming comrades kept getting shot DOWN by the gals when he went out, as they ALL saw him as too cheep/ain't got money.. TILL One found out via the local business section, he OWNED 18 businesses and was worth over 3 mil or something.. THEN THEY were the ones trying to hook up with HIM.
I loved his statement TO those gold diggers.
"If you didn't even want to look, let alone speak to me before you knew i was rich, BY WHAT logic to you think i would even give any of you the time of day, now You are the ones clawing to get TO me cause you DO KNOW i am rich"?

Made me laugh. Especially as several actually broke down in tears cause "he rejected them"..

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by spa999

LOL, yep. Very few women seek out a man bc they love him. Human females have evolved to be hypergamous and materialistic. Not an insult, just an observation. In fact, fair to say if human females were NOT hypergamous and materialistic when choosing mates, a lot of us wouldn't be alive today. The reason human males have evolved to be so good at doing useful, profitable things is bc human females have preferred and pursued such males, rewarding behaviors that advance and enrich our species. Helps explain how we got so intelligent, too.

But to an individual man, who wants to be loved and appreciated for his raw decency, humanity, and overall goodness, this reality is disappointing, nay, infuriating. I am sorry for such men. And, I see where they are coming from.

But Nature is a ruthless bitch. She cares not abt your feelings. All she wants is babies. And she wants them cared for, provided for, and protected. Human women for >99.999% of human history, have been largely incapable of providing for and protecting themselves and their offspring. Men were not just generally necessary as we are today for the race's survival, but men were personally necessary for women to have close to them just to keep them from freezing to death, being eaten by wolves, and starving to death. Esp. when pregnant, women are almost completely helpless as animals go. Men otoh are really good at cooperative hunting, fighting as a team, fighting hand to hand in single combat, and are very good at assessing fast-evolving, dangerous situations and reacting physically to them in such a way as to mitigate them. We are this way bc Nature made us this way. So women have evolved to find men capable of providing and protecting to be very attractive as mates, even if they no longer have any practical need of men as provider/protectors due to the amazing job men have done making modern human society so easy and safe to live in that women no longer need men personally in their lives.

But when they do go looking for a man, they still want guys with loads of cash. (And large cocks, but that is far less important than large wads of cash. She can get large cock from someone else on the side.)

They'll do and say anything to get a man with lots of money. Such men are rare and usually taken. Once they find a rich available guy, they shit themselves trying to get to him. They'll do and say anything to get his money (and I have, unfortunately, with practice learned to spot these efforts no matter how hard the girl tries to cloak it). Sound familiar? Hookers'll tell you anything to get your money. Well, hookers are women. Johns are men with money. They are no different from "normal" women and vice versa. Just a different M.O., that's all.

This is why I don't date "normal" women nor seek to have a gf or get married. I have yet to meet a woman who wasn't a whore, incl. my own mother. So why bother w/ "normal" women and pretend they are any diff from the hookers I fuck? They aren't. Only with hookers, I don't have to deal with drama, bullshit, bitching, w/holding sex, gold-digging (except standard hooker bullshit), etc. Fucking whores is in the long run cheaper than dealing with "normal" women, too, and no divorce leading to huge amts. of YOUR money going to her w/out her lifting a finger to earn it other than to say "I do" in the right place at the right time. Some guys are suckers.

Is there a test on this later and I believe therapy is getting cheaper nowadays.

[Guest072118]

Its not a GFE thing necessarily just most prefer BBBJ. Many do see GFE including BBBJ though.

There is a whole batch of men that could give a poo to DATY, kiss, etc, the 'normal GFE service' but care about CBJ vs BBBJ. GFE is irrelevant as long as BBBJ is on the menu.

And in no way shape or form does GFE mean bareback sex.

[tinypenis]

My dick is too small for a condom

[spa999]

LMAO!

Originally Posted by burkalini

Is there a test on this later and I believe therapy is getting cheaper nowadays.

[spa999]

It's not your dick, it's the condoms. The condoms are too big for your dick.

Originally Posted by tinypenis

My dick is too small for a condom

[Alice Juliet]

Because I am GFE