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Old 01-07-2022, 08:31 AM   #31
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[QUOTE=Lucas McCain;1062702113]Salty, me saying someone is a "standup guy" doesn't mean much.

... Too right, mate. YOU saying someone is a
stand-up guy doesn't mean much - To Me.

However, some o' you liberal lads surely seem rather blue
today, that maybe yesterday didn't quite bring the
"national concern" for things that you were hoping-for.

As I mentioned, when tomorrow comes - Sleepy Joe
and his approval numbers will STILL be in the shithouse.

And He and his VP Kamala will surely continue to demonstrate
that they don't got enough skill to paint the shithouse roof.

... And no matter how much you put the badmouth on Trump,
nothing you say can change that.

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Old 01-07-2022, 08:42 AM   #32
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Approval rating went up 3 points this morning. ipsos Poll conducted Jan 5-6.

I bet samples taken starting yesterday will prove you even more wrong.

TEE HEE
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Old 01-07-2022, 10:54 AM   #33
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Hey, bro, compared with Trump, the Bush gang were small potatoes.
You notice that they have time to turn on their own kind while mouthing useless lies/scare tactics/etc.? Guess one kind of Red ain't as good as another.

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Trump is a grifter of the first order. Anyone who sent in money to "Stop the Steal" just got conned. Those who rioted at the capitol on January 6th 2020 are more likely to be patriots than Trump is. Deluded patriots but at least they believed in what they were doing.

Trump's not a patriot, because true patriots care about the country before themselves.

Does anyone actually believe that Trump would put anyone or anything above himself?
This is one of the best summations of the guy. I always thought his popularity was because people want to do what he does without the consequences of their actions. Otherwise saying, nobody wants responsibility for their actions. Reason why I don't like him is because if I did what he does, i'd be in jail...no question. People don't want to be accountable for their actions.

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And you are saying the republicans don't fundraise?

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Approval rating went up 3 points this morning. ipsos Poll conducted Jan 5-6.

I bet samples taken starting yesterday will prove you even more wrong.

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When did the right ever care about poll ratings? trumps was consistantly (sp) low and they never said a thing about them. Biden already had higher ratings than trump in his whole term. So, who cares?
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Old 01-07-2022, 12:37 PM   #34
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SAVE AMERICA
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP
JANUARY 7, 2022
PALM BEACH, FL

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America

What we witnessed yesterday was the last gasps of a corrupt and discredited left-wing political and media establishment that has, for decades, driven our country into the ground—shipping away our jobs, surrendering our strength, sacrificing our sovereignty, attacking our history and values, and trying to turn America into a country that our people can barely recognize.

These radical leftists in Washington care NOTHING for American Democracy. All they care about is control over you, and wealth and riches for themselves.

But they are failing. No one believes them anymore. And the day is quicky coming when they will be overwhelmingly voted out of power.

Joe Biden's voice is now the voice of desperation and despair.

His handlers gave him that speech to read yesterday because they know the unprecedented failures of his presidency and the left-wing extremism of the Pelosi-Schumer Congress have destroyed the Democrat Party.

Part of their panic is motivated by the realization that, just like the Russia Collusion Hoax, they cannot sustain the preposterous fabrications about January 6 much longer. The truth is coming out.

But for them, the worst part of it all is the knowledge that the American People are seeing right through their phony media event—which despicably compared a Pelosi-led security failure at the Capitol to the darkest days in American history and the deaths of 3,000 Americans.

The people see right through that sham. They see a cynical politician who ran for office promising unity who is now doing the most divisive thing possible—slandering his political opponents as domestic terrorists, just like insecure dictators do in communist countries.

The American People also see that January 6 has become the Democrats' excuse and pretext for the most chilling assault on the civil liberties of American citizens in generations. It is being used to justify outrageous attacks on free speech, widespread censorship, de-platforming, calls for increased domestic surveillance, appalling abuse of political prisoners, labeling opponents of COVID lockdowns and mandates as national security threats, and even ordering the FBI to target parents who object to the radical indoctrination of their children in school. And this week, January 6 is also the Democrats' excuse for trying to pass a radical Federal takeover of state election law. They are trying to BAN voter ID and other basic measures that can ensure the sacred integrity of the vote.

The reason the Democrats are doing all of this is not because they believe they will win a fair and honest election. It's because they know they will overwhelmingly LOSE one.

Remember, I am not the one trying to undermine American Democracy—I am the one trying to SAVE American Democracy.

Today, I am more confident than ever in the strength and common sense of the American People. They are counting the days until we will no longer have to be constantly lectured, lied to, and dictated to by corrupt politicians and their media partners. When we will no longer have to put up with this broken establishment's hoaxes and its manufactured media narratives—And as Biden and his radical handlers know, that day is coming fast. Because in the months and years ahead, the American People are going to speak up, take action, and VOTE in massive numbers, and we are going to TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.

From the very beginning, all that Americans have wanted is great jobs, safe neighborhoods, strong borders, good schools, a proud nation, and a government that LISTENS to the American People. That is what our movement has always been about—and that is what we are focused on to this day.

Joe Biden and the Radical Democrats have failed on every front. But do not lose hope. America WILL be Great Again.

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Old 01-07-2022, 03:46 PM   #35
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When did the right ever care about poll ratings? trumps was consistantly (sp) low and they never said a thing about them. Biden already had higher ratings than trump in his whole term. So, who cares?
Apparently quite a few of the loyal opposition do. Now.



I wonder aloud again if bambino is being paid to post Trump's drivel on this site. He can't get it posted anywhere legitimate. So bambino is making ECCIE Trump's soapbox.

Maybe we ought to change the name to a social media type of name that fits Trump and his cult followers.

We could call it SHITTER.

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Old 01-07-2022, 03:57 PM   #36
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Apparently quite a few of the loyal opposition do. Now.



I wonder aloud again if bambino is being paid to post Trump's drivel on this site. He can't get it posted anywhere legitimate. So bambino is making ECCIE Trump's soapbox.

Maybe we ought to change the name to a social media type of name that fits Trump and his cult followers.

We could call it SHITTER.

Apparently they will only harp about things to look good about themselves and draw away the view of the scorched earth they left behind.

If they want their way, it's easy: VOTE!
~5-6 dozen court cases say there is no problem at the ballot box. Even all the judges Mitch pushed through say the same.
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Old 01-07-2022, 05:26 PM   #37
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Trump is a grifter of the first order. Anyone who sent in money to "Stop the Steal" just got conned.
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The difference. Stop the steal is a giant lie. Trump lost the election. There was no conspiracy or fraud found during the 2020 election.


January 6th. There was a riot "ie insurrection" on January 6th, brought on by the big lie, and abetted by Trump and his cronies and is a real danger to our democratic principles.
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Old 01-07-2022, 06:03 PM   #38
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The difference. Stop the steal is a giant lie. Trump lost the election. There was no conspiracy or fraud found during the 2020 election.


January 6th. There was a riot "ie insurrection" on January 6th, brought on by the big lie, and abetted by Trump and his cronies and is a real danger to our democratic principles.
Nobody was charged with “insurrection”. Nobody had firearms except the police. The only person that was killed by a fire arm was an unarmed female veteran. Those are the facts.
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Old 01-07-2022, 06:18 PM   #39
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The difference. Stop the steal is a giant lie. Trump lost the election. There was no conspiracy or fraud found during the 2020 election.


January 6th. There was a riot "ie insurrection" on January 6th, brought on by the big lie, and abetted by Trump and his cronies and is a real danger to our democratic principles.

so if Jan 6th was an insurrection what was all the "mostly peaceful protests" last year?



in·sur·rec·tion

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noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

a violent uprising against an authority or government.


all those BLM/Antifa riots were far more of a threat to Democracy than what happened on Jan 6th
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The difference. Stop the steal is a giant lie. Trump lost the election. There was no conspiracy or fraud found during the 2020 election.

January 6th. There was a riot "ie insurrection" on January 6th, brought on by the big lie, and abetted by Trump and his cronies and is a real danger to our democratic principles.
Both sides are lying. There WAS fraud in the 2020 election, just not enough to change the outcome if it had been fully uncovered (which it wasn't). So it's an exaggeration to say the election was "stolen".

January 6 was a political rally that turned into a spontaneous riot. To characterize it as an "armed insurrection" or a "grave threat to our democracy" is likewise an exaggeration of the highest order - albeit one that resonates well with dim-retard donors.

So both sides are fanning our divisions and conning their supporters with lies designed to motivate them to open their wallets and make stupid political donations to keep the circus going.

It's a BIG LIE to pretend only the other side is a "grifter".
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They're both lying. There was fraud in the 2020 election, just not enough to change the outcome if it had been fully uncovered (which it wasn't). So it's an exaggeration to say the election was "stolen".

January 6 was a political rally that turned into a spontaneous riot. To characterize it as an "armed insurrection" or a "grave threat to our democracy" is likewise an exaggeration of the highest order - albeit one that resonates well with dim-retard donors.

So both sides are fanning our divisions and conning their supporters with lies designed to motivate them to open their wallets and make stupid political donations to keep the circus going.

It's a BIG LIE to pretend only the other side is a "grifter".
It was “stolen”. I’ll tell you what, you spend 500 million for Zuckerboxes for mail in ballots. It’s true. You don’t believe it? How about our own state of Pa? They changed the election laws without approval from the legislature? Trump was up in Pa by 750,000 votes on election night. I’ve posted many links on this. Cmon man.
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Old 01-07-2022, 06:26 PM   #42
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Both sides are lying. There WAS fraud in the 2020 election, just not enough to change the outcome if it had been fully uncovered (which it wasn't). So it's an exaggeration to say the election was "stolen".

January 6 was a political rally that turned into a spontaneous riot. To characterize it as an "armed insurrection" or a "grave threat to our democracy" is likewise an exaggeration of the highest order - albeit one that resonates well with dim-retard donors.

So both sides are fanning our divisions and conning their supporters with lies designed to motivate them to open their wallets and make stupid political donations to keep the circus going.

It's a BIG LIE to pretend only the other side is a "grifter".

so .. politics as usual. got it.
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Definition of Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.

The protesters at this political rally came armed with chemical weapons in the form of pepper sprays and bear sprays. Some were armed with electrical weapons like tasers and some were armed with fire-arms. Just because no one shot their fire-arms didn't mean there weren't any present.

The stormed the capitol building, the seat of our legislative body, breaking their way in and attempting to keep the legislature from completing the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to the next.

I would call that an insurrection. The idea that this was some kind of out of control peaceful lovefest is simply ludicrous.

All politicians lie to a certain extent. But only one of them was too much of a coward to admit that he lost, and then proceeded to attempt to keep himself in power by means of bullying, lying, and conspiring with others to do the same. If the republicans in the Senate had done their job and convicted Trump during his impeachment trial we might not be debating this issue anymore. I don't like Mike Pence very much but he would have made a much better president than Donald Trump could ever be.
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Definition of Insurrection: a violent uprising against an authority or government.

The protesters at this political rally came armed with chemical weapons in the form of pepper sprays and bear sprays. Some were armed with electrical weapons like tasers and some were armed with fire-arms. Just because no one shot their fire-arms didn't mean there weren't any present.

The stormed the capitol building, the seat of our legislative body, breaking their way in and attempting to keep the legislature from completing the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to the next.

I would call that an insurrection. The idea that this was some kind of out of control peaceful lovefest is simply ludicrous.

All politicians lie to a certain extent. But only one of them was too much of a coward to admit that he lost, and then proceeded to attempt to keep himself in power by means of bullying, lying, and conspiring with others to do the same. If the republicans in the Senate had done their job and convicted Trump during his impeachment trial we might not be debating this issue anymore. I don't like Mike Pence very much but he would have made a much better president than Donald Trump could ever be.
Well, nobody was charged with “insurrection”. So there’s that.
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Nobody was charged with “insurrection”. Nobody had firearms except the police. The only person that was killed by a fire arm was an unarmed female veteran. Those are the facts.
The female was a violent criminal. Good riddance.
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