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Old 08-17-2022, 12:38 PM   #31
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The N95 and KN95 masks have a 90% effective rate. Which means you have a 10 minute conversation with an infected person (and you are within 10 feet of that person) you do that 10 times, chances are you will become infected one out of 10. That is even if you were wearing the mask correctly all ten times. If you don't isolate yourself like Putin, does not matter how high your position is in government. The masks can only do so much you have to limit the amount of times you come into contact with an infected person.
cdc is saying you no longer have to isolate if you think youve been around someone who has tested positive for the wuhan chinese virus
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:39 PM   #32
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Lev17, you still have an issue with the M-RNA concept?

When you get a traditional vaccine, like the one for Measles, Polio, Smallpox, etc, your immunity system makes the antibody right away.

When you get the M-RNA two shot vaccine(whatever you want to call it) you immunity system gets the instructions ( a particular amino acid sequence) to MAKE the antibody once you are infected with SARS_Co_V2). The antibody is not made right away like it is with a traditional vaccine. (BIG Difference).

The M-RNA vaccines will not prevent INFECTION, in most cases they
prevent DEATH.

The facts are there have very few break through DEATHS. I.E a person gets the two shot vaccine, but got infected with CoVid and died anyway.

We still have 400 people dying daily because 100 million people in the USA did not get vaccinated at all. They did not get the Moderna or Pfizer (two shot), or Johnson & Johnson (one shot) vaccine .
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:56 PM   #33
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Lev17, you still have an issue with the M-RNA concept?

When you get a traditional vaccine, like the one for Measles, Polio, Smallpox, etc, your immunity system makes the antibody right away.

When you get the M-RNA two shot vaccine(whatever you want to call it) you immunity system gets the instructions ( a particular amino acid sequence) to MAKE the antibody once you are infected with SARS_Co_V2). The antibody is not made right away like it is with a traditional vaccine. (BIG Difference).

The M-RNA vaccines will not prevent INFECTION, in most cases they
prevent DEATH.

The facts are there have very few break through DEATHS. I.E a person gets the two shot vaccine, but got infected with CoVid and died anyway.

We still have 400 people dying daily because 100 million people in the USA did not get vaccinated at all. They did not get the Moderna or Pfizer (two shot), or Johnson & Johnson (one shot) vaccine .
The mRNA concept might look good on paper but in reality not so much. This so called vaccine has been in circulation for over a year now and way too many adverse reactions have been reported. A person can die from the virus as well as the vaccine or experience a troubling adverse reaction that could plaque them for years. It's a gamble.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:51 PM   #34
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cdc is saying you no longer have to isolate if you think youve been around someone who has tested positive for the wuhan chinese virus
That make sense. Two hundred million people in the USA have been fully vaccinated. The vaccines were not available until Jan 2021.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:58 PM   #35
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I am not telling you anything different than Trump's director of Operation Warp Speed. He constantly tried to get citizens to take the shot.

You have trouble with facts. The fact is most of the people who died from CoVid were NOT Vaccinated. Now, let's see if you can spin that?
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A person can die from the virus as well as the vaccine ........
You are talking about a very small number of people who either died because they got the vaccine or got infected with CoVid and did not recover (even though they were fully vaccinated) . There were a lot of unvaccinated people that died that were quoted as saying they wish they had received the shot.

It's too late to ask for the shot when doctor informs you we have to put you on a ventilator because SARS_Co_V2 has take over your lungs.
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I'd much rather get my immunity through vaccines, rather than through the disease.

Thanks for your contributions adav8s28. You have a way of presenting this so that those of us like me who don't have a strong background in biology can understand it.
Thanks Tiny. You're welcome.
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Old 08-17-2022, 08:28 PM   #38
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Anyone seen kumallah?

You think thats how dr jills got monk.. err the sniffles?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...gAi?li=BBnb7Kz

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Word is, lizzie will be getting one of hunters 500k "art" pieces bahahahahhahahahhahaa
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Anyone seen kumallah?

You think thats how dr jills got monk.. err the sniffles?
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You are talking about a very small number of people who either died because they got the vaccine or got infected with CoVid and did not recover (even though they were fully vaccinated) . There were a lot of unvaccinated people that died that were quoted as saying they wish they had received the shot.

It's too late to ask for the shot when doctor informs you we have to put you on a ventilator because SARS_Co_V2 has take over your lungs.
It's not a small percentage for something that is suppose to protect against infection. Over two million adverse reactions have been reported to Vaers and almost thirty thousand deaths associated with the vaccine that weren't Covid related. That's just Vaers reports not to mention the unreported incidences. Which I am sure there are plenty. For a disease that has a high incident rate and considerably low death rate. The odds are beginning to stack against the Vaccinated.
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For a disease that has a high incident rate and considerably low death rate. The odds are beginning to stack against the Vaccinated.
Sars_CoV2 virus is killing far more people than Influenza A. Influenza A kills up to about 50,000 people per year in the USA. Sars_CoV2 virus has killed 1 million people in 2.5 years. It would take 20 years for Influenza A to kill 1 million people.

The Regeneron Antibodies treatment worked well against all the variants except the Omnicron Variant. The problem with the Regeneron antibody treatment was how available was it. With the Omnicron variants your best defense are the vaccines. The fact that there have been VERY FEW breakthrough deaths confirms that.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
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Sars_CoV2 virus is killing far more people than Influenza A. Influenza A kills up to about 50,000 people per year in the USA. Sars_CoV2 virus has killed 1 million people in 2.5 years. It would take 20 years for Influenza A to kill 1 million people.

The Regeneron Antibodies treatment worked well against all the variants except the Omnicron Variant. The problem with the Regeneron antibody treatment was how available was it. With the Omnicron variants your best defense are the vaccines. The fact that there have been VERY FEW breakthrough deaths confirms that.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Influenza is a naturally occurring virus and has been in the population for generations. The human body has adapted to it therefore the death rate has remained rather low. Furthermore many people myself included have a high resistance to influenza, their symptoms are rather mild and seldom require Medical intervention. Covid-19 on the other hand is not naturally occurring the incident rates and death rates are going to be naturally higher than Influenza. Covid-19 is a Bio Weapon and was introduced into the population for the sole purpose of making people Ill. There will be another Pandemic after this one and another after that ect. The Vaccine wasn't designed to prevent infection. This Pandemic and every aspect of it was politicized for a reason. That reason is to depopulate, Control and to track the masses.
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Influenza is a naturally occurring virus and has been in the population for generations. The human body has adapted to it therefore the death rate has remained rather low. Furthermore many people myself included have a high resistance to influenza, their symptoms are rather mild and seldom require Medical intervention. Covid-19 on the other hand is not naturally occurring the incident rates and death rates are going to be naturally higher than Influenza. Covid-19 is a Bio Weapon and was introduced into the population for the sole purpose of making people Ill. There will be another Pandemic after this one and another after that ect. The Vaccine wasn't designed to prevent infection. This Pandemic and every aspect of it was politicized for a reason. That reason is to depopulate, Control and to track the masses.
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