Dinner date

[Bestman200600]

Some ladies go out to lunch and dinner with their regulars to keep them as regulars. On the hobbiest side, its a way of showing a lady that she is more than just a bedroom play toy. I have taken my regulars out many times and we both have a good time.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Bestman200600

Some ladies go out to lunch and dinner with their regulars to keep them as regulars. On the hobbiest side, its a way of showing a lady that she is more than just a bedroom play toy. I have taken my regulars out many times and we both have a good time.

Really? How does a provider show us guys that we are more than just an ATM machine?

IMO, taking a provider out to eat, is considered an extra benefit for both parties of the provider-hobbyist relationship and the provider's time may or may not be compensated for. To say that she could be seeing someone for an appointment rather than eating is ludicrous as the ladies have to eat some time. So in addition to paying for the food, drinks and dessert, something she is going to be have to free up some time to do anyway AND pay provider's time as well is definitely not something I would do.

In other words, if you want to take a provider to eat and nothing more before or afterwards, let her know about your offer one morning and when she gets hungry, have her contact you and you can stop by or have her meet you at a restaurant and will take her to/buy her lunch/dinner IF she is amenable to it. Do not hound her or rebuttal her if she does not want to, and it is not a good idea to ask just any provider, but one that you have at least seen multiple times BCD before you even think about asking about it. The worse she can do is say no to a free meal!

[Tsmokies]

Well dang DAvid (know it all)...what if a lady tells you she is hungry and wants to go eat. They have needs and wants too

[omakase]

Originally Posted by mtubbs90

Just curious what would you ladies charge to go to dinner. Thats it. No BCD or anything just dinner and convo and go our separate ways.

OP, I've asked the same question when I first stated out. Hell, I even had a ML thread on a while back on the same topic.

Put another way ... "Which ladies are available and what's the going rate for just dinner dates (no BCD included)"

Short answer - You're going to need to do a lot more digging because the shortcut you're seeking is simply not published widely.

Long answer - Most ladies don't publish this rate (or even contemplated it) because it's not a very common question. Your first approach is to locate ladies who are willing to do outcalls. But keep in mind that outcalls build into the cost and time of traveling. Second, I speculate that the average going rate would be that provider's 30-minute rate. 30-minutes is the cost floor that a lady expects to charge for each session. So being wined and dined by somebody else while still earning enough for one session might be worth it for some ladies.

Another consideration. You might be able to negotiate a better outcall dinner rate if you're going to a truly upscale restaurant or a restaurant that's on the provider's TDL. I've read reviews of guys who think TGIF and Applebee's will make the lady's heart melt. That's amateur hour. But if you're taking her out to Nick and Sam's or Nobu ... maybe she'll be willing to offer a "time and companionship discount."

But I really like Alexie Amor's Social Hour Rate. It's not for most people, but it's a ridiculously brilliant concept for guys who just want to meet up. In fact, for all the guys who "just want to get to know a provider first."

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Tsmokies

Well dang DAvid (know it all)...what if a lady tells you she is hungry and wants to go eat. They have needs and wants too

The first part of your signature line suits you since you do not know how to read before you reply to something.

I think a dinner date should also include BCD activity either before or after.

[Red Tex]

If you are a regular then asked her to dinner. Otherwise you seem like a tightwad.

I have had OTC with many dancers that included great play and dinner. 4 or 5 hours for $250.

[Angel Ryder]

Providers charge for their time, not services..or at least the smart ones do...so if someone wants to go to dinner, then he pays the hourly rate for that time.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by Angel Ryder

Providers charge for their time, not services..or at least the smart ones do...so if someone wants to go to dinner, then he pays the hourly rate for that time.

That is true only in theory and/or when it suits a purpose. If that was really the case, then the donation paid by a hobbyist to a provider would be all inclusive for the time paid for, but instead, you see ads that state +50 for anal, +50 for MSOG, ect. and some providers upsell their services during the session, so your statement that a guy is paying for time, not services is definitely not anywhere close to being accurate. Now, it is the standard political thing to say and time is involved, but in all honesty, a hobbyist is really paying for services rendered, which is why when he pays for your time and you do not deliver on services offered and/or advertised when the appointment was set, then you get a bad review, even though he may have stayed the allotted time. If he was just paying for your time and companionship, then it would not make since to do research on a provider beforehand, have a review board such as this and guys would probably just go down a list alphabetically or some other method of choosing who to see next to pay for her time.

As I said, everyone has to eat, and it does not hurt to ask a provider to dinner, all she can do is say no to a free meal, but a good prerequisite of doing so is to have seen her multiple times BCD in the past if he wants to take her to dinner only, no BCD before or after. Sometimes, it may be a spur of the moment thing where she is hungry when a guy is on his way or arrives for a session and even asks if he would like to get a bite to eat first or after the session is over. That has happened to me on a few occasions. But, to pay for her time to watch her eat AND paying for the meal is not logically feasible even tho some guys would do it.

Another good example is taking a provider to a concert or sporting event, which may last 4-5 hours or more, and I have done it many times. Do you as a provider think that a hobbyist is going to not only pay for the tickets, food and beverages while there, but also pay you $1000+ because he is paying for your time?

[!VI!]

Originally Posted by mtubbs90

Just curious what would you ladies charge to go to dinner. Thats it. No BCD or anything just dinner and convo and go our separate ways.

i've been invited on dinner dates at least twice a month just because guys need actually compassion sometimes. Dinner Dates are Very intimate and honestly they are a public function so....

"technically it's time and companionship", So their normal rate would probably apply. But We are always up for a discount if you a buying dinner?

you have to remember out time is just as valuable as yours <3

[!VI!]

Originally Posted by Red Tex

If you are a regular then asked her to dinner. Otherwise you seem like a tightwad.

I have had OTC with many dancers that included great play and dinner. 4 or 5 hours for $250.

i have no idea why this made me laugh SO HARD, lol so you played and took 4 to 5 hours in the day for 250? meaning they charged you 50 per hour lol.... when you break it down like that it sounds awful lol

[!VI!]

Originally Posted by davidfree986

That is true only in theory or when it suits a purpose. If that was the case, then the donation paid by a hobbyist to a provider would be all inclusive for the time paid for, instead, you see ads that state +50 for anal, +50 for MSOG, ect. It is the political correct thing to say and time is involved, but in all honesty, a hobbyist is paying for services rendered, which is why when he pays for your time and you do not render services offered when the appointment was set, then you get a bad review, even though he may have stayed the allotted time.

As I said, everyone has to eat, and it does not hurt to ask a provider to dinner, all she can do is say no to a free meal, but a good prerequisite of doing so is to have seen her multiple times BCD in the past if he wants to see her for dinner only, no BCD before or after. Sometimes, it may be a spur of the moment thing where she is hungry when a guy is on his way or arrives for a session and even asks if he would like to get a bite to eat first. That has happened to me on a few occasions. But, to pay for her time to watch her eat AND paying for the meal is not logically feasible even tho some guys would do it.

A good example is taking a provider to a concert or sporting event, which last 4-5 hours, and I have done it many times. Do you as a provider think that a hobbyist is going to not only pay for the tickets, food and beverages while there, but also pay you $1000+ because he is paying for your time?

hey david <3

so, i understand your point in this post but i have a few questions that also can help you see the other side of the fence.

we go to concert, you spend money on the tickets, and food and beverage etc...

but now, instead of making anything during this free event i'm attending because i was invited to, not necessarily something i seeked out, i'd lose $1000 (give or take) in possible work which could come back to bite me at end of month because i'm trying to save you money?

providers do have a lot of free time out side of the hobby, and most of that time is spent doing out individual hobbies and activities away from you lovely gentleman lol.


But lets say you ran into me at that evet that i already had tickets to and we hung out, THATS completely diff story, you wouldn't treat it like a date, it would be a casual encounter... would you feel offended if i didn't focus on you?


it's just a way to see on the other side <3

[Angel Ryder]

Originally Posted by davidfree986

That is true only in theory and/or when it suits a purpose. If that was really the case, then the donation paid by a hobbyist to a provider would be all inclusive for the time paid for, but instead, you see ads that state +50 for anal, +50 for MSOG, ect. and some providers upsell their services during the session, so your statement that a guy is paying for time, not services is definitely not anywhere close to being accurate. Now, it is the standard political thing to say and time is involved, but in all honesty, a hobbyist is really paying for services rendered, which is why when he pays for your time and you do not deliver on services offered and/or advertised when the appointment was set, then you get a bad review, even though he may have stayed the allotted time. If he was just paying for your time and companionship, then it would not make since to do research on a provider beforehand, have a review board such as this and guys would probably just go down a list alphabetically or some other method of choosing who to see next to pay for her time.

As I said, everyone has to eat, and it does not hurt to ask a provider to dinner, all she can do is say no to a free meal, but a good prerequisite of doing so is to have seen her multiple times BCD in the past if he wants to take her to dinner only, no BCD before or after. Sometimes, it may be a spur of the moment thing where she is hungry when a guy is on his way or arrives for a session and even asks if he would like to get a bite to eat first or after the session is over. That has happened to me on a few occasions. But, to pay for her time to watch her eat AND paying for the meal is not logically feasible even tho some guys would do it.

Another good example is taking a provider to a concert or sporting event, which may last 4-5 hours or more, and I have done it many times. Do you as a provider think that a hobbyist is going to not only pay for the tickets, food and beverages while there, but also pay you $1000+ because he is paying for your time?

The additional fee for "greek" is typically applied due to the TIME it takes to prepare for this sort of thing. Not eating 4 hours prior, enemas, etc. Once again, this is TIME. And I cannot speak for all providers. If they are upselling services, that's on them. I can only speak for MY business and when it comes to Angel Ryder Corporation, I am the CEO of this here pussy and I charge for my time. That is all.

[Guest110416]

Originally Posted by !VI!

hey david <3

so, i understand your point in this post but i have a few questions that also can help you see the other side of the fence.

we go to concert, you spend money on the tickets, and food and beverage etc...

but now, instead of making anything during this free event i'm attending because i was invited to, not necessarily something i seeked out, i'd lose $1000 (give or take) in possible work which could come back to bite me at end of month because i'm trying to save you money?

providers do have a lot of free time out side of the hobby, and most of that time is spent doing out individual hobbies and activities away from you lovely gentleman lol.


But lets say you ran into me at that evet that i already had tickets to and we hung out, THATS completely diff story, you wouldn't treat it like a date, it would be a casual encounter... would you feel offended if i didn't focus on you?


it's just a way to see on the other side <3

Provider logic will dictate that if they do something other than sit and wait for the phone to ring or refresh their email every 30 seconds all day, like eat, sleep or have an actual life that by doing so, they feel/claim that they will definitely be losing money on POSSIBLE appointments. That is so far from the truth it is hysterical.

How many times has your phone rang while you were eating? sleeping? doing things with the kids? out with the girls? It probably has, but even then, it may be a general inquiry or to make an appointment in the near future, but rarely would it be a case where he has to see you in 10 minutes, and even more rare that there are multiple guys behind him waiting after he is done. Get real.

To answer your question, if I met you at an event, and you spaced out or did not give me the time of day, then you can rest assure that I will not be wanting to meet again and would ignore you if I saw you again because you showed poor taste in your interpersonal skills. It would be surprising to see you at an event anyway because as you have stated, you are potentially losing money by going to one, at least on your time. In any event. if I knew you were a provider, and you treat me like I was non existent, then one would also think you treat clients about the same so your provider career would more than likely consist of mainly, if not all, one time meetings.

[berkleigh]

Originally Posted by Infinite

I have taken many ladies to lunch, dinners, movies, and even the casino without paying a dime. You just gotta build a good rapport with the lady IMO.

I can't see me charging anyone to just go out to lunch or dinner and watch me eat. And I am the worlds slowest person to eat, promise.

I've gone to brunch and dinner, had drinks and even night clubs or other events off the clock.
That comes with building a rapport as mentioned.
And being screened.

I did just recently offer a 4 hour Dinner/Drinks & Date in my recent AD and Showcase.

[guest071618-1]

Originally Posted by !VI!

i have no idea why this made me laugh SO HARD, lol so you played and took 4 to 5 hours in the day for 250? meaning they charged you 50 per hour lol.... when you break it down like that it sounds awful lol

$50/hr is awful ?? That is over $100k a year. That is pretty good in real world and I am sure pretty good in DFW area.
Maybe bad deal for giving up ur pussy but u will not be giving ur pussy for 4-5 hrs.

Originally Posted by berkleigh

I can't see me charging anyone to just go out to lunch or dinner and watch me eat. And I am the worlds slowest person to eat, promise.

I've gone to brunch and dinner, had drinks and even night clubs or other events off the clock.
That comes with building a rapport as mentioned.
And being screened.

I did just recently offer a 4 hour Dinner/Drinks & Date in my recent AD and Showcase.

You got my + point for ur comment. Sounds like good mix of real world and fantasy world. Maybe I will jump on ur 4hr Dinner/Drinks & Date offer next time in DFW.