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Old 12-14-2023, 03:52 PM   #31
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I think 4 people ranked Kfest at #3 specifically just narrowly making top 3, Is it the quality of the girls that had them so high? I know a lot of people have them low for the msog tax.
Yes. They would have been top 3 for me if it wasn’t for the msog tax. Momo, Yumiko and Lily were all really good. I really want to try Kristen but like I said that tax is holding me off. And the 30 min HHR rate isn’t worth it, you’re just ripping yourself off. I’ll gladly do the hhr rate if it was 200-240. Probably end up with the throat goat lovely instead

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Old 12-14-2023, 06:49 PM   #32
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I think 4 people ranked Kfest at #3 specifically just narrowly making top 3, Is it the quality of the girls that had them so high? I know a lot of people have them low for the msog tax.
It's always the quality of the girls. There are times when sunflower has the best line up, others , Blossom, others, AS, still others KF and so on. Variety is the spice of life

It isn't like the girls suddenly become better when they switch studios.
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It's always the quality of the girls. There are times when sunflower has the best line up, others , Blossom, others, AS, still others KF and so on. Variety is the spice of life

It isn't like the girls suddenly become better when they switch studios.
What lineup has sunflower put out that actively challenges AS, Bk,Kf in a studio ranking? I would wager there is no time during the year that they would even be considered for a #1 rank. Their it girl is Eve and that’s pretty much it. Dana is in her 40’s. Everyone else is better by a far margin.
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Old 12-15-2023, 07:18 AM   #34
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Last time Sunflower was good was when Velvet and the big girl (forgot the name) was here.
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Old 12-15-2023, 10:16 AM   #35
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What lineup has sunflower put out that actively challenges AS, Bk,Kf in a studio ranking? I would wager there is no time during the year that they would even be considered for a #1 rank. Their it girl is Eve and that’s pretty much it. Dana is in her 40’s. Everyone else is better by a far margin.
They've had winners like Bell, Sara, Dior. Banana, Jayda, Maple, Dior and Cream among others

My point is, every studio is good
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They've had winners like Bell, Sara, Dior. Banana, Jayda, Maple, Dior and Cream among others

My point is, every studio is good
That’s just not true, they wouldn’t need promoters if that was a true statement. From a management perspective to a culture perspective Sunflower is consistently ranked the worst. They had a hand to play in msog tax. I guarantee you there’s people who frequently visit Abby at Kfest that won’t just because she’s at Sunflower and people don’t want to deal with Sunflower.
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They've had winners like Bell, Sara, Dior. Banana, Jayda, Maple, Dior and Cream among others

My point is, every studio is good
Lol cmon now. Maple is robotic as can be. Boring and lackluster, what’s crazy she wanted a extra 40 for round 2

She knows shes bad (as in terrible provider) too that she had to change her name to Lucy
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Lol cmon now. Maple is robotic as can be. Boring and lackluster, what’s crazy she wanted a extra 40 for round 2

She knows shes bad (as in terrible provider) too that she had to change her name to Lucy
That perfectly sums up why sunflower is ranked as the worst studio. Their girls change their names when they get bad reputation. No accountability.
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:50 PM   #39
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That’s just not true, they wouldn’t need promoters if that was a true statement. From a management perspective to a culture perspective Sunflower is consistently ranked the worst. They had a hand to play in msog tax. I guarantee you there’s people who frequently visit Abby at Kfest that won’t just because she’s at Sunflower and people don’t want to deal with Sunflower.


I gave you a list of great gals and your argument is "but promoters"? Dude, that's a pathetic response. And how do you know anything about sunflower management? Do you know the owner and/or booker who explained to you how they run the studio? And you guarantee that Abbys fans won't visit her because she is under a different roof? Ok, show some proof that she isn't getting her regulars. The MSOG upcharge has been a thing in Cali, VA, Seattle, NY, Vegas for a long time. If the ladies from there want a tip, why would SF deny them?

In the end, it's about the gals.
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:52 PM   #40
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That perfectly sums up why sunflower is ranked as the worst studio. Their girls change their names when they get bad reputation. No accountability.
You seem to have a major beef with SF. Or you're just trying to prop up another studio while using SF as a stool.

What does the girl changing her name have anything to do with the studio? Doesn't that speak more about the individual rather than the studio?
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Old 12-15-2023, 01:54 PM   #41
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Lol cmon now. Maple is robotic as can be. Boring and lackluster, what’s crazy she wanted a extra 40 for round 2

She knows shes bad (as in terrible provider) too that she had to change her name to Lucy

She was actually here pre covid and was incredibly top tier. But changed her name. Maybe she changed her name for another reason? Like maybe privacy?
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You seem to have a major beef with SF. Or you're just trying to prop up another studio while using SF as a stool.

What does the girl changing her name have anything to do with the studio? Doesn't that speak more about the individual rather than the studio?
90% of this thread ranked Sunflower as one of the worst studio. The common perception from real mongers and not promoters who constantly bump reviews is that they’re the worst studio. I find it very telling that you’re accusing me of having beef and not looking at the feedback from real mongers. This thread should be gold to them but as the worst studio they won’t learn from it.

The girl changing her name is part of the workplace culture. Again Sunflower as stated multiple times has no accountability. Her changing her name shows she has no accountability and that’s the type of talent they bring in.
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She was actually here pre covid and was incredibly top tier. But changed her name. Maybe she changed her name for another reason? Like maybe privacy?
Right.. nothing screams privacy being constantly reviewed and having her pics plastered all over the internet
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I would like to reiterate what I put in the first comment of this thread. Sunflower is the worst studio by ranking and has the worst promoters among the studios.
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90% of this thread ranked Sunflower as one of the worst studio. The common perception from real mongers and not promoters who constantly bump reviews is that they’re the worst studio. I find it very telling that you’re accusing me of having beef and not looking at the feedback from real mongers. This thread should be gold to them but as the worst studio they won’t learn from it.

The girl changing her name is part of the workplace culture. Again Sunflower as stated multiple times has no accountability. Her changing her name shows she has no accountability and that’s the type of talent they bring in.

Who you think is a real monger and who isn't is of no concern to me. You're the guy who championed the boycott then immediately reneged on it. Your approval means jack shit.

Also you made pointed claims about SF management. Based on what exactly? What are your parameters of what good and bad management? And what accountability do you want from SF? Or any other studio for that matter? You're making up some nebulous arguments. You're going to have to clarify them.

Also I asked you to provide proof that Abby is less busy now because she is specifically at SF. You made a pointed claim and I called you out on it. Notice how you're running?

And how is "workplace culture" the reason ladies change their names? Dude. This is a studio, not some corporation with an HR department. Lmao.

But yeah, provide some clear answers and not some "people agree with me and not you" line.
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