Rates from the guys side

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by samantha thom

Yep yep!! That's what I was making in my entry level job out of college yearrrrssss agooooooo!!!!! For one person, it's ok…for a family of 4??? That's poor!!

So why'd you quit?

[samantha thom]

Cause I've moved on. That was in a different decade. :-) Making a lot more now in a different job. Is there really anyone who works the same entry level position LONG after college?

[Randall Creed]

Ummm, wouldn't you have exceeded entry level by now?

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Bob the Nailer

Rule #1:
Ladies may set their rates wherever they see fit. I know they must factor in their time, incall location (it ain't free fellows), old factor, fat factor, smelly factor, etc to finally get to a clean reasonably proportioned gentlemen that is reasonably nice and not a total jerk.

I would like to discuss the guys side of saving up the donation. Say our guy is married 10 years, 2 kids, wife works and spends most of her free time managing the kids with help from our beat down Dad. He wants some hot monkey sex. Can't get it at home, cuz the SO is too tired to do anything other than a quick BJ and missionary, doggy on Friday night (YEAH!!)

He makes 45K, has a mortgage, car note, trying to save for college funds, maybe paying off college debts. Wife works too and is the better money manager, so she pays most of the bills with input from our beat down Dad. How long will it take for him to squirrel away $250-$300 for a session with a hot nubile, WILLING, sexual dynamo? (Refer to rule #1) It make take some guys several months to get the money and excuse to get out of the house.

I'm not in any way talking trash to our wonderful providers about their prices. It's just that most guys don't have a money tree in the backyard, which is in part why I believe some of the "Bargain hunting" happens.

Personally, I look for someone that fits my criteria of IOP & BCD skills, then read reviews to see if they are what I'm really looking for. Price is my last criteria.

Rule #2:
If she is out of your price range, either save up or move on. Don't bitch about the price.

If she is too pricey for me, I just save up and see her a week or two later.

Dude, if you are only making 45 grand and the poor wife has to work - do something different with your time rather than waste it on here. I think 100 g's per year is the entry point nowadays, and I don't see how you can live on that.

As for the guy who sez some of us pay more to keep the market upscale - I would say that is true on a subconscious level, or perhaps more accurately on self justification level. Myself, I'm just grateful I get to have sex with pretty girls who would otherwise justifiably ignore me were I unable to pay the freight.

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

Dude, if you are only making 45 grand and the poor wife has to work - do something different with your time rather than waste it on here. I think 100 g's per year is the entry point nowadays, and I don't see how you can live on that.

As for the guy who sez some of us pay more to keep the market upscale - I would say that is true on a subconscious level, or perhaps more accurately on self justification level. Myself, I'm just grateful I get to have sex with pretty girls who would otherwise justifiably ignore me were I unable to pay the freight.

What if Coke started selling 20oz's for $8.00 per? There's princiBALITIES in this game. And consider this:

And there's another side to the coin.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

If this isn't the case, then someone explain why newbie providers come in the game charging 2.5 or 3 bills, sometimes for half a freaking. Others even more. Many of them don't even have reviews. Non-MSOG? CBJ? I don't give a damn how cute you are, you can go to hell with those rates.

It's not that I can't afford it. I can. It's just principle. You're 'performing' unskilled 'labor' that 99% that ALL women can do. What's so special about YOU?

If you do start your rates at 2.50, you better be FUCKING HOT! I mean, mouth-watering, dick hard just looking at your pictures HOT! Stop myself from jacking off because I want to build up a good load hot! Services must be top of the line. I should leave your incall thinking, 'Damn, when can I see her again?'

Of course, some guys will come on here and say I'm full of shit, in all probability because what I say applies to them. If the shoe fits.... Answer me this, rich boys. If your salary was reduced to say, $30,000 tomorrow, would you stop hobbying? If the answer is no, shut up and sit down.

Since I have been back, I've met a couple of ladies at church. You just have to say grace over it. The board doesn't have a monopoly but dating is at least as expensive (dinner, movie, drinks done several times then score) now comes the drama.

You see a newbie asking $400 and she has no reviews? You think WTF. If she is a BBW, I wouldn't see her if it was free. It's a matter of preference. Compile a list of women you want to see. Next to the name, put the fee. You look at the pics, the reviews and the fee. It's market research. You don't get emotional over it. It is literally a fuck'n business transaction. You can have a nice dinner but tomorrow you are going to be hungry again.

When you are in a restaurant, do you go over to the owner and give him a tip? She would have to have gone seriously above and beyond. Putting it in a review is pure ego.

If you can't afford it, don't do it. I have no respect for a man that puts himself above his family.

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by OldLRRP

Since I have been back, I've met a couple of ladies at church. You just have to say grace over it. The board doesn't have a monopoly but dating is at least as expensive (dinner, movie, drinks done several times then score) now comes the drama.

You see a newbie asking $400 and she has no reviews? You think WTF. If she is a BBW, I wouldn't see her if it was free. It's a matter of preference. Compile a list of women you want to see. Next to the name, put the fee. You look at the pics, the reviews and the fee. It's market research. You don't get emotional over it. You can have a nice dinner but tomorrow you are going to be hungry again.

When you are in a restaurant, do you go over to the owner and give him a tip? She would have to have gone seriously above and beyond. Putting it in a review is pure ego.

If you can't afford it, don't do it. I have no respect for a man that puts himself above his family.

Sure, but that man shouldn't have to jack off because he has a wife that's never in the mood, meanwhile, she and the kids have a roof, food, and clothes on their back, with a college education pending.

That rule doesn't even apply to me, but I can see the frustration in that situation.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

Sure, but that man shouldn't have to jack off because he has a wife that's never in the mood, meanwhile, she and the kids have a roof, food, and clothes on their back, with a college education pending.

That rule doesn't even apply to me, but I can see the frustration in that situation.

I spent 7 years in a dead marriage because I wouldn't leave my kids. I moved out the day my youngest left for college. No, I never put myself above my family and I didn't hobby back then. I left the ex with everything and started over.

[samantha thom]

Originally Posted by Rambro Creed

Ummm, wouldn't you have exceeded entry level by now?

That's what I said. It was a different decade. There had been promotions, better offers and better opportunities that I'd taken…so I quit.

[SD2011]

Originally Posted by Boltfan

Any dude making $4 5K a year with those bills trying to hobby is a piece of shit.

Try putting some money in your kids college fund and Jack off to free porn.

This isn't a hobby for the poor, and a family of 4 living on $45K is poor.

100% agree with you.

[TinMan]

Good example that for a lot of people, this is less like a hobby and more like an addiction.

[gr82bhere]

My 2 cents on the rate war.

It's supply and demand. Just like bitching out front of a Ford lot won't change the bottom line on a truck. You simply determine what you can pay and then make your selection in your price range. Some guys want an old tank that's fully loaded while others want the latest they can afford even if it has window cranks.

Me personally, I don't hobby much. A couple reviews lost on ASPD and a small handful here. Honestly I don't know how some of you guys fuck as much as you do. But anyway, I have never spent less than $$$. If a lady is offering a $$.5 special then great, how much for 90 min? I hate 1 hr appointments, just hate them! There are several $$$+ ladies on my wish list but at selection time they usually get beat out by the ladies offering longer session discounts. Negotiating a lady's rate won't happen with me, I just won't see her if I can find a better value with a lady of similar standing on my wish list.

There is also a RL friend of mine and we have never discussed rates. She needs help occasionally and we'll get together. I make sure she gets $$ - $$.5 per hour and I cover the room.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by gr82bhere

My 2 cents on the rate war.

I hate 1 hr appointments, just hate them! There are several $$$+ ladies on my wish list but at selection time they usually get beat out by the ladies offering longer session discounts. Negotiating a lady's rate won't happen with me, I just won't see her if I can find a better value with a lady of similar standing on my wish list.

I'm impressed, I can't last that long. I go for the hour session, needing half that time to get undressed.

"Negotiating a lady's rate won't happen with me, I just won't see her if I can find a better value with a lady of similar standing on my wish list."
Amen

Then there are the ones that you have seen before and could go for another visit.

[BLM69]

This hobby is for everyone, There are ladies for everyone's budget, If I can't afford them, I won't bother contacting them or bitching about rates.

I'm 30mins or less kinda guy, I have my fun and leave, I don't need to chitchat or pretend I made a new friend.

[southdude]

Originally Posted by Bob the Nailer

You're correct. I've always gone with escorts and not affairs. Too many boiling bunny nightmares!! LOL

I READ THIS SOME WHERE AND it is stuck in my mind.

the key difference between an escort and a mistress / fling/affair or whatever u call it where u pamper , date, etc is.

when you pay an escort, think about it this way-that you are paying her to GO away from you, not come.. ha ha.
transaction over.- no emotional baggage/drama . EOD.

and i read almost all these posts here.. all good POVs..
its economics 101. supply demand. but like the stock market. .there are some pricing in efficiencies.. but thanks to all the reviews.and intel. they soon get ironed out.. ha ha..

who remembers.. TORI CAPELLI...

http://www.eccie.net/providers.php?do=view&id=126929

she was 200-250 in austin.. she came to DFW
i got on her approved list and it was 300 in dallas.. I made appts with her.... darn one appt.. last minute her son got fever.. she cancelled. then other time i cancelled.
then her rate went up to 400. darn.... i was still interested but she went off the radar.
then i saw here back. 500.... double darn..
i will never forgive her then 5 year old son. for getting fever that day...