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07-28-2024, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... THAT is if you believe Fox's polling.
Look at the other polls. ... They show things a bit different.
Trump has a Nice Lead. ... ![Clapping](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/clapping.gif) ...
#### Salty
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What poll are you referring to? Emerson College?
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07-28-2024, 05:56 PM
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I can’t wait to see Kamala off Teleprompter.
It’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Here is a good example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM02CrZN790
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07-28-2024, 07:03 PM
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At least she admits that Russia invading the Ukraine is wrong. JD Vance does not care what happens to the Ukraine. He does not care that innocent children with cancer in the hospital are getting bombed by Putin. JD was in the Marines?
Yet he says why should politicans who don't have biological children be running the democratic party.
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07-28-2024, 07:39 PM
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At least she admits that Russia invading the Ukraine is wrong. JD Vance does not care what happens to the Ukraine. He does not care that innocent children with cancer in the hospital are getting bombed by Putin. JD was in the Marines?
Yet he says why should politicans who don't have biological children be running the democratic party. ![Yikes](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/yikes.gif)
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So what. War has been part of man's existence since the beginning of time. The killing ends in one place and starts in another it's in our blood. So she says it's wrong, what is she going to do about it. She'll just have conversations and nothing changes.
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07-28-2024, 08:39 PM
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“The S&P 500 index and the Nasdaq index has gone thru the roof.”...........
And your point no. 2 is a flat out lie: The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, also known as the "bank bailout of 2008" or the "Wall Street bailout", was a United States federal law enacted during the Great Recession, which created federal programs to "bail out" failing financial institutions and banks. The bill was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, passed by the 110th United States Congress, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.
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It's true that TARP was established while Bush43 was still in office. It's True that Hank Paulson (The Treasury Secretary) wanted to spend 700 billion for bailout money. However, The Dodd/Frank financial Reform Act (which was passed in June 2009) reduced the 700 billion Paulson proposed to 475 Billion. Most of the 1,000 troubled assets that were bailed out were bailed out by Obama and Tim Geitner. A perfect example are GM and Chysler.
1. Make sure you know what you are talking about before you call someone a liar.
2. Don't cherry pick the History.
3. "Nice try old chap, better luck next time" Agent007 From the movie Thunderball release date 1965.
From the link below:
Although Congress initially authorized $700 billion for TARP in October 2008, that authority was reduced to $475 billion by the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (Dodd-Frank Act). Of that, the following amounts were committed through TARP's five program areas:
https://home.treasury.gov/data/troub...relief-program
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07-28-2024, 09:02 PM
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So she says it's wrong, what is she going to do about it.
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Continue to give Ukraine weapons so they can better defend themselves just like President "Sleepy" Joe Biden. Any other questions?
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07-28-2024, 09:52 PM
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Continue to give Ukraine weapons so they can better defend themselves just like President "Sleepy" Joe Biden. Any other questions?
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... Just another question or two... DOES she stand with Israel??
The voters she's courting don't seem to.
... She's a big believer in ZERO Punishment and ZERO Cash Bail
for criminals - and she doesn't believe in charges for illegals
flooding the country - unless they're getting charge cards.
Do you believe that the American people see things her way?
THAT is gonna be hard to hide and rebrand.
Not to mention Kamala's plan of MASS AMNESTY for illegals.
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07-28-2024, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... Just another question or two... DOES she stand with Israel??
The voters she's courting don't seem to.
... She's a big believer in ZERO Punishment and ZERO Cash Bail
for criminals - and she doesn't believe in charges for illegals
flooding the country - unless they're getting charge cards.
Do you believe that the American people see things her way?
THAT is gonna be hard to hide and rebrand.
Not to mention Kamala's plan of MASS AMNESTY for illegals.
#### Salty
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1. She believes in Israel's right to defend itself. BTW (Her husband is Jewish). She like Biden also believes in some sort of two state solution. However, Bengy N. does not want that. Bengy N funds the HAMAS thru a secret organization so he can get into a fight with the HAMAS to take them out.
2. The zero bail is the District Atty of New York city. That is for non serious crimes. That's not Harris. No charges for illegals that commit a crime? That's a false statement.
3. Do I believe the American people see things her way? I believe that right now, one week after Biden announced that he was dropping out, that in swing states Mich, Penn and Wisc that Harris is TIED with Trump.
4. I also believe that if Harris wins the swing states Mich, Penn and Wisc that Harris will get to 270 electoral college votes and Trump goes back to the Mar-A-Logo!
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07-28-2024, 10:45 PM
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Continue to give Ukraine weapons so they can better defend themselves just like President "Sleepy" Joe Biden. Any other questions?
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It's not our war to fight. America has no strategic interest in Ukraine. When the Democrats get America into a WW3 scenario our Military and weapons are depleted, then what, who has our back?
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07-28-2024, 10:54 PM
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It's not our war to fight. America has no strategic interest in Ukraine. When the Democrats get America into a WW3 scenario our Military and weapons are depleted, then what, who has our back?
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The USA is just giving the Ukraine Weapons. The USA has not sent any troops. If Ukraine can't hold off Russia with just us giving them weapons, then they may end up having to give up some of their land. The defense companies will just increase production if the USA runs low on weapons. You won't have to worry about that.
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07-29-2024, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by adav8s28
The USA is just giving the Ukraine Weapons. The USA has not sent any troops. If Ukraine can't hold off Russia with just us giving them weapons, then they may end up having to give up some of their land. The defense companies will just increase production if the USA runs low on weapons. You won't have to worry about that.
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Just because we don't have troops there doesn't mean we aren't fighting that war. We are fighting it through Ukraine by supplying them with money and weapons.
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07-29-2024, 07:13 AM
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Just because we don't have troops there doesn't mean we aren't fighting that war. We are fighting it through Ukraine by supplying them with money and weapons.
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It was posted that we are giving them weapons. So, what is your point? You okay that hospitals with cancer patients are getting bombed by Putin? Didn't you once post that Putin needs to be removed from power?
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07-29-2024, 08:04 AM
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It was posted that we are giving them weapons. So, what is your point? You okay that hospitals with cancer patients are getting bombed by Putin? Didn't you once post that Putin needs to be removed from power?
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No, Iam not okay with Putin Bombing Hospitals but that's not the reason why America is financing that war.
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07-31-2024, 12:33 PM
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No, Iam not okay with Putin Bombing Hospitals but that's not the reason why America is financing that war.
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Could you explain to us why the USA is financing the Ukraine? Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so the USA is not obligated. You have implied that the USA is helping the Ukraine for some other reason other than a humanitarian one.
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08-01-2024, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty Again
... THAT is if you believe Fox's polling.
Look at the other polls. ... They show things a bit different.
Trump has a Nice Lead. ... ![Clapping](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/clapping.gif) ...
... The Dem's biggest problem with Kamala - IS Kamala! :
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And the biggest problem with Trump is he is Trump. His performance yesterday at the National Association of Black Journalists was beyond bad. I did not realize that Kamala was not Black until yesterday when Trump said "She was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants to be known as black. So, I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?" Scott interjected: "She has always identified as Black. She went to a historically Black college."
"I respect either one," Trump said, "but she obviously doesn't because she was Indian all the way. And then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went. She became a Black person."
Regarding polls:
The latest poll in Georgia by Public Policy Polling has Harris +1 and a poll by Morning Consult has it even. Harris had been trailing by about 5 points a week earlier.
In Michigan a recent poll by Morning Consult has Harris +11. Another poll has it even.
The two most recent polls in Pa have Trump +1 and Harris +3.
In Wisconsin Harris is +2 according to recent Public Opinion Strategies poll.
No matter how you look at it, right now Harris has caused a dramatic shift in the battleground states after Biden dropped out. Maybe things will shift once the "honeymoon" ends, but right now polls have Harris in front.
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