OKAY WHO ON THIS BOARD IS A SHOOTER AND WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE WEAPON

[dirty dog]

""Undoubtedly, some think the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of our Nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security, and where gun violence is a serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct." - Justice Scalia, DC vs Heller

Your right JR but it does not say ammo, they will let us own all the guns we want to buy, but the 2nd admendment does not say ammo, it says arms, this is the loop hole that I hear those I know who dont like guns talk about, it is possible to outlaw ammo or severly curtain the ability to purchase it. anyway i am going to stop talking politics.

[SFviii]

Interesting thread, I'm just a collector and these are my favorites...

S & W Model 500 revolver with .500 S&W Supermag

MR's Mark VII Desert Eagle with .50 A.E.

Both are cool and sometimes practice shooting them. The Desert Eagle can hurt like hell but S&W 500 isn't too bad with the recoil compensator.


SF8

[Smokes]

Home Defense = Tarus Judge. 44 Long Colt & 410 Shot Gun
Long Range = Springfield M1A

[JRLawrence]

Dirty Dog,

The following history is interesting:
1. Washington crossed the Delaware River on Christmas Eve because he had to capture the British Gunpowder Stores. He had little to none.
2. Bunker Hill: when the order was given to shoot when you see the whites of their eyes, it was because they only had one musket shot each. The took the one shot, and then ran like crazy to let the British have the hill. The British had confiscated all of the gunpowder they could find.
3. Lexington and Concord was about the British coming to take the store of powder.
4. The main battle in the South that turned the war and allowed for the British final surrender was because there were powder stores in the South, and when the British went to get it; the Southern Boys fought back because they had the powder.

During the period of time leading up to the Revolution, the British did not allow any production of Gun Powder in the North. If I remember my history, there was one powder mill in the South.

Gun Powder (Read that as Black Powder in 1776) was difficult to make because Potassium Nitrate was in short supply (I recommend an interesting book "The History of Gunpowder - forgot the author). With Potassium Nitrate in short supply the King of England had special people appointed to scrape the walls behind the taverns where the men went to relieve themselves. The crystalized urine was collected to get the Potassium Nitrate. Collections were also made from most of the barnyards and outhouses throughout the country.

The problem with this primitive powder (Potassium Nitrate + Ground Charcoal + sulfur) was that there was no provision to keep bacteria from feeding on the mixture. The result, barrels of GP had to be removed and dried, and reprocessed almost each year.

The present method is to add Sodium Benzoate, a common food preservative, to the above mixture for black powder. SB and/or Potassium Sorbate is also added as the secret ingredient in most fireworks powder and various other explosives as preservatives.

I could go on, but I referenced the book. Maybe I read too much anyway. But, anyway this stuff is still fun. I made nitro when I was 14 (it scared me too much to handle it much), and bought blasting caps and blasting powder at the local hardware store to blow up tree stumps at my Grandmothers farm. Powdered Zinc and Sulfur in a 3 to 1 ratio made a great big firecracker. Well that stuff we can't do anymore and the kids simply not allowed to play with the things we played with.

JR

[BiggestBest]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

... I recommend an interesting book "The History of Gunpowder - forgot the author) ...

Which one?

Gunpowder: Alchemy, Bombards, And Pyrotechnics: The History Of The Explosive That Changed The World ~ Jack Kelly

A History of Greek Fire and Gunpowder ~ J. R. Partington

[Bartman1963]

Jackie you surprise me! That weapon is incredible. I would love to own one of those too. 5.7 x 28 in an FN handgun is extremely deadly. The same round in a 50 rd clip? WHOOO. Watch out baby, serious fun has arrived. Put an EOTech holographic sight on that and watch Jackie become a commando in a G string. I get dibs on filming!

I don't know anyone who has been shot and lived. The one person I knew who was shot, was killed with a .22 magnum. That round aint to be sneezed at. I want never to be shot with anything. Period. .22 short, .25 ACP, high velocity pellet rifle...nothing.

DD, my next weapon is gonna be a REC-7. 6.8 SPC with a 30 rd magazine and piston operation, instead of gas impingement. Sounds like a ton of fun. And I can hunt with it, with a smaller magazine of course.

[dirty dog]

Bartman, you know me, shot 4 times, .32 caliber, actually the .22 caliber round is the round of choice for assasination work by the mob and CIA.

I am trying to chose between the .308 or the 6.8, i like the mag capasity of the 6.8 but love the long range accuaracy and knock down power of the .308. I am also looking to use it for hunting. If i cant decide soon might have to get one of each LOL.

[Bartman1963]

I did not know that about you. Jeezus!

To quote Godsmack; "I'm as tough as nails". LOL you actually Dirty Dog or "Ironman"?

One of each sounds good. Take a look at the FNAR, for your .308 needs...

http://www.fnhusa1.com/PDF/reviews/1...ightBarrel.pdf

[chriscraft]

Cool thread!

I have a H&K P2000 in 9mm for my CCW. Also have a bunch of long guns, including a left-hand Browning BAR in .308 with Leupold VX3, a MAK-90, and I just got my first AR-15 about a month ago, a left-hand STAG in 5.56 of course.

This is my rifle, this is my gun...

[JRLawrence]

BiggestBest,

The book I was referring to was: "Gunpowder: Alchemy, Bombards, And Pyrotechnics: The History Of The Explosive That Changed The World ~ Jack Kelly" see chapter 10 "History out of Control". By the way, my mistake, page 159, the Americans got off two shots at the battle of Bunker Hill (actually Breed's Hill). By the third frontal charge: "The Americans had run out of gunpowder".

Thanks for the question on title, I had to find the book in my basement after 4 years and reread parts of it again. I have also ordered the book "A History of Greek Fire and Gunpowder ~ J. R. Partington" Thanks for the suggestion.

By the way, see page 115 at the end of the first paragraph for a how to do it.

JR

[Omahan]

Originally Posted by JRLawrence

By the way, my mistake, page 159, the Americans got off two shots at the battle of Bunker Hill (actually Breed's Hill). By the third frontal charge: "The Americans had run out of gunpowder".

Close but no cigar. There were 3 charges and the American did run out of ammo like you said. However, no charge by British regulars was ever broken by one volley. The first charge was broken with the 3rd volley. I'm not sure about the 2nd or 3rd. Very likely there was only one volley on the 3rd charge or it would have been stopped too. Here is one source - http://www.usahistory.info/Revolutio...nker-Hill.html

If I hadn't gone into banking I would have liked to be a history teacher. Sometimes I just can't help myself.

[catnipdipper]

Dirty Dog;

" I recently went through the process to regain my civil rights including gun ownership."

What does that mean? How did you lose them in the first place?

[bigbirddog]

Originally Posted by lacrew_2000

I presently own uno gun. Its a plain jane .22 by Savage Arms from Wal-Mart. Ammo for it is dirt cheap, so I can have alot of fun target shooting....and it serves a purpose, several possums have met their maker.

I fired everything under the sun in the Army, and I've gotten alot of the 'big gun' out of my system...I might opt for a 9 mm (M-9) in the near future though. I can attest to its accuracy being superior to the 1911 .45...and stopping power? Since I plan on carrying this thing around, I may go smaller yet. Most people run away when any bullet is fired.

The stock version of the 1911 ACP was notoriously inaccurate, for a reason. It was a field weapon and had to operate under extreme conditions, e.g. dirty. When accurized, the ACP is very accurate. I can empty the clip of my ACP into the torso of a combat target at 50 yards. The .45 has a lot more knockdown power than the 9 mm. If you hit your target with a .45, you knock it on its ass. With a 9 mm, maybe but not likely.

[catnipdipper]

When you guys are packin and visit a provider what do you do with the weapon?

[john_galt]

Isn't that a personal question officer?