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Old 08-19-2012, 02:56 PM   #31
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I call bull shit. So you pretend to partake of a cbj so that you can get provider comfy enough to get more benefits not on the menu? Hmmmm, and you choose to take on cbj vs bbbj? I cant even believe i have wasted a bit of my energy posting in your thread.
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Lots of guys get CBJ by choice from BBBJ girls. Does that mean they get anal or TUMA or something else not offered to the other guys? Not on this planet...
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:43 PM   #32
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Asking for a CBJ does not make you safe. It is also very naive to believe that a provider is giving just you those special "off menu" services because you requested a CBJ and that she would not be giving them to any of her other clients with whom she did bbbj.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:05 PM   #33
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Lots of guys get CBJ by choice from BBBJ girls. Does that mean they get anal or TUMA or something else not offered to the other guys? Not on this planet...
It happened on my planet
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:11 PM   #34
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It happened on my planet
This is all just fantasy anyway, irrespective of what corner of the solar system.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:26 PM   #35
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Providers would have to be extremely naive to believe that just because a guy asks for a CBJ he is "safe" or "risk free" and she can do things with him that she would not do with all the rest of the guys to whom she gives her usual BBBJ. If a client is truly worried about catching something from the provider, he needs to know exactly what she is doing with all the rest of her clients.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:28 PM   #36
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Default Yep...different planet...mosdef.!

You must realize that there is little actual data to backup your story...and you are addressing people who do this every week, and have done so for years.

Just like the stories of damaged DNA from use of MaryJane...history is not something one can dispute. Where are all those children who were so damaged...?

Were there any basis of reality in your concerns...the hundreds of thousands of people who have had these types of contact on a daily/weekly/monthly basis would be in a recorded world wide pandemic.

Ever known a stripper personally....talk about BLOW&GO...
Think the regular guys that try out every new lady in the club would still be returning..??
Go to any SC and you will find guys who have been going in there for years without problems.
Not to mention the managers....

Oh...about the CBJ stuff...
We understand some ladies limit their menus...
Most of us have no problem with her decision...
But less than half price for a "less than satisfactory" type of service would be reasonable.
And it is, of course, his option if he would like to again spend hard earned money on that.

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Your position and opinion are yours and you are welcome to them....
However, your info seems to be BS...without too much thought about it.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:55 PM   #37
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For the gents, I will let you know this:

I recently had a first time session with a higher end provider. I suited up for the oral activities ... she was pleasantly surprised. And, SHE asked me to engage in some "off menu" activities that she enjoys in her private life, but will not do with clients because she was comfortable that I was safe. So, ... I done seen some benefits.
So you go with a CBJ and providers think you are safe so they give you BBFS? Makes sense to me.
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Old 08-19-2012, 11:09 PM   #38
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First of all, you just have to laugh that when you post for commentary from the ladies, your first few responses are from men ... go figure.

Mijo, mouthwash/toothpaste/toothbrush are not going to prevent a Chlaymdia infection. This girl is doing bbbj/cim with up to 40 clients a week. All it takes is one sick dick and she spreads it around to tens of clients in a two week period before SHE is even aware that she has Chlamydia. In fact, brushing the teeth can tear the gums and make it EASIER for the bacteria to enter the bloodstream!

Selective bbbj/cim ... maybe. But, with every friggin client! BatShitCrazy!
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AL is right but with all the focus on chlamydia he overlooks all the other stds, ie hpv, lgv, gc et al that can be transmitted orally.
I've only read the first page of this thread so maybe someone has already made this comment... If you're so damn paranoid, you know you can always request a CBJ, right? I'm sure most girls wouldn't mind... As matter of fact, I know of at least one hobbyist who has requested a CHJ! :0 lol
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:14 AM   #39
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I agree. It is and always has been crazy to me to think that if the statistics were reversed and a guy could get an oral STD as easily as a girl can get an oral STD though BBBJ ….. CBJ would be as normal as CFS.

The reason it is so accepted is because the provider is taking the greater risk of contracting Gonorrhea or Chlamydia (2 of the easiest transferable and curable oral STD's), not the client.

It’s this way because sadly girls are and always have been push overs, it’s easier to get a girl to fold then it is for a girl to stand up and do the safe thing day in and day out the face of pressure and ridicule.

I can't count all the girl who have started in this industry as CBJ providers, then because of pressure, they switch to BBBJ, even though they know it is not right. I also cant count all the girls who started as BBBJ providers, then attempted to switch to CBJ, yet couldn’t make the transition and had to either go back to BBBJ or retire.

And anyone who thinks I don’t know what I'm talking about is mistaken, years ago I ran and incall for a while and proividers would get an oral STD and it was no biggie to them at all, they would just treat it as the flu, strep throat or a common cold. They would go to the doctor, get some meds, take off a few days then go back to bareback dick sucking a few days later.
 
I don’t have anything against girls who offer BBBJ, frankly I’m the only CBJ girl I know, all my friends only offer BBBJ, but when it comes to the dangerous choices I make in my life, I’d much rather go racing and allow that to be the danger I allow in my life.

We all have to make a choice about what risks and dangers we are willing to allow into our lives.
So freaking true! I've only recently started with BBBJ. When I originally started and refused to do it, I got the phone hung up in my ear, or clients demanding their money back. In one case a guy spat on my face while I was performing stating that it was a fair trade for not coming in my mouth. I'm ashamed to say, even though it's not in my usual tone, I got real ghetto real quick... may have used a little too much teeth before that point >:-P
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:49 AM   #40
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So you go with a CBJ and providers think you are safe so they give you BBFS? Makes sense to me.
I never stated what the off menu activities were that she likes in private. And, it was with a cover.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:25 AM   #41
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I never stated what the off menu activities were that she likes in private. And, it was with a cover.
Your "discretion" in refusing to stipulate the off menu activity with an UNnamed "girl" may lead to speculation your "reward" for voluntarily covering up for a bj could have been catching for some pre-op tranny.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:58 AM   #42
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Your "discretion" in refusing to stipulate the off menu activity with an UNnamed "girl" may lead to speculation your "reward" for voluntarily covering up for a bj could have been catching for some pre-op tranny.
No problem, the off menu activity was anal

And, it wasn't just the fact that I suited up for oral ... that is the norm with me. What she really appreciated was no discussion, no hassle, no issue. And, she did make note of that.

I'm sure had there not been some mutual chemistry she would not have offered off menu anal just because I suited up on my own for oral. But, I'm sure that did influence her opinion and decision.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:59 AM   #43
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This is all just fantasy anyway, irrespective of what corner of the solar system.
LOL! I've read several of your posts and all I can say is
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:11 AM   #44
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I agree with Eva and Brooke and I certainly see their point of view, and I understand the OP's concerns. It is the hobby after all and aside from catching anything nasty orally, you can catch things just rubbing the genital area of a person regardless of having a condom on or not. Herpes is easily transmittable even when there is no current visible outbreak. Google it and see, it has to do with the shedding of the infected skin cells.

However, with that said I have seen various boyfriends over the past 10 years and "knock on wood" have yet to catch anything. But I am very YMMV and I take the time to do certain things that every lady should do which includes but not limited to a visible check as well as some other methods. (pm me ladies if you would like more info on how to do this from an experienced lady).

For the newer gals they really should look up the SWOP http://www.swopusa.org/ site or other sites like Coyote http://www.bayswan.org/coyote.html and such that give directions on how to check a guy and be safe. This is pretty standard as well at the famous Las Vegas Brothels. Guys if you ever decide to go to one of these in Las Vegas prepare to get a light shined on you and a visible check done prior to any activity. It is done very clinical like. Some of the brothels make it mandatory to use a condom and dental dam for any oral.

If you see something that doesn't look right or smell right, you either pass on giving oral all together, or slap a cover on it, depending on the circumstances.

The ladies who last in this little hobby of ours get regular STD testing done, (you must invest in this), and if you are a guy who hobby's regularly with the ladies you need to do the same.

As I have said before in other threads, guys if you have unusual bumps or things that are on your genitals don't assume it is benign or that its a skin tag or something harmless. Go to the doctor get it checked and treated. I mean after all your spending anywhere from 200 on up to visit ladies, so you can take some of that money and invest it in regular checks and treatment if necessary at a doctors office.

Common sense should be paramount. I know, I know, that's asking a lot from some people.
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:26 AM   #45
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Asking for a CBJ does not make you safe. It is also very naive to believe that a provider is giving just you those special "off menu" services because you requested a CBJ and that she would not be giving them to any of her other clients with whom she did bbbj.
Agreed but it does reduce your risk significantly. If a guy is getting a CBJ but then does oral on the lady with out a dental dam, then he might as well just do a BBBJ. He can contract the more common infection which is Candidiasis (yeast) and he may go about spreading it to other ladies. If you have a compromised immune system then a yeast infection can run rampant. Some strains are resistant to treatment. Diflucan no longer cures it and additional treatment may be needed.
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