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Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
Problem with the left is the want to foist their choices on others, especially those most easily open to suggestion, and expect to be granted special rights for making them.
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Would it be Liberals or Conservatives most active in working against the hobby that this site is built around? If two adults consent to an activity that does not intrude on others is the left more or less likely to be the side wanting to dictate whether that is acceptable or not?
When you say most easily open to suggestion I would offer that young people have parents who have a lot of rights with regard to raising their children. The line that separates indoctrination from education is not nearly as finite as some Conservatives would have us think that it is. When it comes to altering someone's body further than a piercing or hair dye I definitely favor 18 or even 21 as an age to set as a limit.
Teenagers are for the most part horny and looking to better understand and navigate their sexuality which can mean a number of avenues and we have no right to govern their personal choices. By personal I am referring to things that may or may not upset someone else but do not effect others on any real level.
So to me the continued efforts by Conservatives to try and deny, outlaw, or otherwise prevent those who do not fall squarely into the 'hetero' category from making their own choices is in fact a foist that is not acceptable. The Liberals wanting to cross the line from personal choice into irreversible procedures etc are just as wrong.
I have no more standing to dictate that someone else's child dress like a boy, girl, goth, rocker, or hipster any more than they have to tell me how to raise my children.
There are no clean hands on either side. The battle rages one side vs the other. To what end? We could try and fault the founders for one reason or another but are we not grown functional adult type people? There has to be a better way to co-exist that what we are doing today. If a Conservative truly embraces less intrusion and more freedom they should live by that and if a Liberal really values systems in place to offer better availability of services and programs that meet their needs they should realize that some fringe ideas are just not attainable.
Imagine the great things we could accomplish as a nation if we weren't standing in the street pointing at the other side all day desperate to find a WIN anywhere that checks a box to validate the effort. Maybe some real progress could be made with the Social Security system it remains one of the worst investments bordering on state regulated robbery of the American people. Immigration absolutely needs more attention and some kind of coherent long term plan in place.
I don't think we as people are doing nearly enough to facilitate results and solutions though it makes sense to just keep on riding with our Liberal or Conservative efforts and I see legit needs and ideas on both sides. What I don't see is how the current model of adversarial combat producing many positive results for either side.