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eccieuser9500 · 10-21-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/me...VID-Su-508.pdf

you haven't been paying attention, then.
you could've just searched using the phrase "reporting rates of myopericarditis per million doses administered" and got the first result

So what does this tell YOU, if these "vaccines" do more harm than good and any information suggesting that is dismissed as "misinformation", suppressed, villianized or otherwise verboten? Are these still going to be the TRUSTED SOURCES you unquestionably lap up?

You don't make sense.

FatCity · 10-21-2021, 10:49 PM

Mystery rise in heart attacks from blocked arteries | Scotland | The Times (archive.ph)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ries-m253drrnf

I'm sure its nothing!!!

FatCity · 10-21-2021, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

You don't make sense.

you don't matter

FatCity · 10-21-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

Mystery rise in heart attacks from blocked arteries | Scotland | The Times (archive.ph)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ries-m253drrnf

no idea what could be causing an alarming heart disease increase in Scotland. No idea, guys

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-58548727

Get the jab!

Don't be a kook! A wackjob, a conspiracy theorist, a loon, a nazi, an uncool kid, a miscreant, a grandma killer, a crazy person, a moron, an anti-science person thingy
C'MON, JUST GET VACCINATED. I'M SURE ITS FINE. TRUST ME. EVERYONE'S DOING IT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? DON'T BE A SCAREDY CAT
WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
DO YOUR PART - GET VACCINATED
IF WE GET 30% OF THE POPULATION VACCINATED WE CAN HAVE HERD IMMUNITY AND GO BACK TO NORMAL!
ALL WE NEED IS 70% OF THE POPULATION VACCINATED BECAUSE HERD IMMUNITY DOESN'T EXIST! DON'T YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO NORMAL??
LOOK, WE'RE NEVER GOING BACK TO NORMAL, BUT WE CAN HAVE SOME OF OUR RIGH...ER....PRIVILEGES BACK IF WE'RE GOOD ENOUGH AND JUST AGREE WITH WHATEVER THE GOVERNMENT TELLS US. THEY KNOW BEST.

txdot-guy · 10-21-2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

Mystery rise in heart attacks from blocked arteries | Scotland | The Times (archive.ph)
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ries-m253drrnf

I'm sure its nothing!!!

It's not nothing. It's just not vaccine related.

Rise in heart attacks attributed to pandemic stress and poor diet.
https://archive.ph/oiZSc
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...diet-gdpn5bcgd

Tiny · 10-21-2021, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

no idea what could be causing an alarming heart disease increase in Scotland. No idea, guys

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-58548727

Get the jab!

Don't be a kook! A wackjob, a conspiracy theorist, a loon, a nazi, an uncool kid, a miscreant, a grandma killer, a crazy person, a moron, an anti-science person thingy
C'MON, JUST GET VACCINATED. I'M SURE ITS FINE. TRUST ME. EVERYONE'S DOING IT. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? DON'T BE A SCAREDY CAT

Yes, the vaccine causes heart attacks, cancer, automobile accidents, homicidal behavior, schizophrenia, and moral turpitude.

This is a 25% increase in one particular type of heart attack in ONE HOSPITAL. Why don’t you just take the cardiologists word for it — it was probably caused by 5 or 10 related reasons, some of which were related to lockdowns.

FatCity · 10-21-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Rise in heart attacks attributed to pandemic stress and poor diet.

yes, because if you have bacon & eggs twice a week, you will die of a heart attack in a few months

from your link

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“There is currently no association established between the Covid-19 vaccines and myocardial infarction, and myocardial infarction is not listed as a potential side effect in any of the Covid-19 vaccines.”

so the CDC/VAERS is a bunch of liars, I guess

rexdutchman · 10-22-2021, 10:26 AM

^^^ your getting it theys funded by Big Pharma Hmm ,,,,Follow the money

FatCity · 10-23-2021, 09:57 AM

Hurry, My Children, Hurry

YOU MUST GET YOUR SHOT QUICKLY......MAKE THE YOUNG KIDS GET IT BEFORE CHRISTMAS!
https://archive.md/Be3w0
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...people-30.html

This is what it looks like when you adjust your position upon receiving new data, rather than just force feeding the position you're incentivized to have from the beginning.

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Swedish health officials have now decided that a moratorium on giving the Moderna vaccine to anyone under 31 will be extended indefinitely, the U.K. Daily Mail reported. The pause on the Moderna shots had been scheduled to end on Dec. 1.

Finland, Iceland and Denmark have taken similar steps. Norway is encouraging men under 30 not to get the Moderna shot, but is not mandating it.

For months, the Moderna vaccine has been under scrutiny because of data that shows young men who receive it are at increased risk for myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis, an inflammation of the sac around the heart.

https://youtu.be/ofbGZDbbUsE?t=1930

Tiny · 10-23-2021, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

yes, because if you have bacon & eggs twice a week, you will die of a heart attack in a few months

from your link

“There is currently no association established between the Covid-19 vaccines and myocardial infarction, and myocardial infarction is not listed as a potential side effect in any of the Covid-19 vaccines.”

so the CDC/VAERS is a bunch of liars, I guess

I'll tell you what I told texassapper. Please use your numeracy skills. If you do, you won't fall for this stuff.

First you present a chart showing that the incidence of myocarditis, after vaccines, ranged from .00001% to 0.002%. This doesn't mean these people died from myocarditis. In this study of 2,392,924 people who received at least one dose of mRNA vaccines, there were 15 cases of confirmed myocarditis. For all 15 cases, "symptoms resolved with conservative management," and "no patients required ICU admission or admission after discharge."

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2784800

Then, you make the jump from that to a hospital in Scotland that experienced a 25% increase in a particular type of heart attack. You don't explain how a .00001% to .002% incidence of nonfatal myocarditis translates to an increase of 25% in heart attacks. Tx dot and I provided a much more likely explanation - the increase was attributable to other causes, some of which were related to lockdowns.

Now apparently you're confusing myocarditis with myocardial infarction. A myocardial infarction is a heart attack. It's not exactly brain surgery determining if the vaccines resulted in a major increase in the number of heart attacks. You look at the incidence of heart attacks in the population that was vaccinated vs. the unvaccinated. There's no reason to disbelieve the CDC.

If there were a way to make a wager anonymously on a hooker board, I'd bet a pretty penny that the number of deaths from heart disease in 2021, when people were getting vaccinated, will be lower or not significantly greater (say not more than 1% greater) than the number in 2020. This is something that's easy to check, as I bet the Journal of the American Medical Association or the CDC will come out with something similar to this next year:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778234

When it does, I'll try to remember to post it and come back and rub your nose in it.

Austin Ellen · 10-23-2021, 03:44 PM

I got my booster. Pfizer. I got the flu shot on the same day. no issues or problems. I just wanted to get it over with. Feel great. A friend of mine got covid - went on the ventilator - never came back home. He did not get his shots.
I did not want to go down that road but I respect everybodies decision to do what they feel is best for them.

oeb11 · 10-23-2021, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FatCity

yes, because if you have bacon & eggs twice a week, you will die of a heart attack in a few months

from your link

so the CDC/VAERS is a bunch of liars, I guess

Tiny - my perusal of the literature and CDC - 'heart attack' - which is a myocardial infarction - usually due to coronary artery occlusion - does not seem to be a significant complication of the Wuhan virus vaccine
Myocarditis/pericarditis - an inflammation of the heart muscle and pericardial sac surrounding teh heart - is reported and a concern.

were you a bit confused as to the terminology?

oeb11 · 10-23-2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

I got my booster. Pfizer. I got the flu shot on the same day. no issues or problems. I just wanted to get it over with. Feel great. A friend of mine got covid - went on the ventilator - never came back home. He did not get his shots.
I did not want to go down that road but I respect everybodies decision to do what they feel is best for them.

Thank for your comment - AE

Good to see you post.

Salty Again · 10-23-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

I got my booster. Pfizer. I got the flu shot on the same day. no issues or problems. I just wanted to get it over with. Feel great. A friend of mine got covid - went on the ventilator - never came back home. He did not get his shots.
I did not want to go down that road but I respect everybodies decision to do what they feel is best for them.

... GREAT Answer! ...

I will surely encourage everyone I can to get vaxxed.
But at the end o' the day - it's THEIR decision
to do so - or not - as they wish.

### Salty

oeb11 · 10-23-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty Again

... GREAT Answer! ...

I will surely encourage everyone I can to get vaxxed.
But at the end o' the day - it's THEIR decision
to do so - or not - as they wish.

### Salty

and - in conjunction with the advice of their Physician.