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Old 03-21-2021, 01:22 AM   #31
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There is a place for 30 minute appts just as there is a place for longer ones. I used to be into:

1. early on in my hobby career almost always the one hour, multiple pops sessions
2. as time evolved, and I found a few semi UTR regulars I likes, a one hour single or multiple pop session with a regular who really knew what I liked and who I could count on for the right amount of foreplay
3. then in recent years mainly the 30 minute single pop session

Alas given the lack of quality in the Pittsburgh market, I am much more likely to stick with the 30 minute session these days. Now if there was someone who offered some exceptional or unique services, I would consider an hour. But most providers these days prefer to get you in and out the door plus my days of needing multiple pops are mainly past (not to say it doesn't happen with the right circumstances but it is not a burning desire). And sadly, the semi UTR regular types I used to enjoy spending an hour with can't be found these days
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Old 03-21-2021, 08:33 AM   #32
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The older I get, the shorter my attention span gets. Now, I normally schedule half hour appointments and they suit me well. Recently I decided to schedule an hour with a provider. I finished the appointment, stopped at Mike and Tony's for a gyro and fries and was home before the hour was over. It reminded me why I do half hour appointments.
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Old 03-21-2021, 08:52 AM   #33
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I’m free to ask why without your bitching Bam you probably schedule 30 minutes because you are elderly and out of breath in 10 minutes. An hour would put you in the grave
I’m 63 and workout. Like I said, I went to 1/2hrs 10yrs ago. It appears from this thread, many others have too. But thanks for the rude response.
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Old 03-21-2021, 10:21 AM   #34
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Thanks for all the responses! It’s nice to see a civil thread here
I agree. Let's keep the civility.. dj8
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Old 03-21-2021, 02:50 PM   #35
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If providers are only as good as the hobbyists and I don't have enough power to fight the selection pressure and drive the market in the direction I want it to, I don't know what I can do.

What I like are Dark Fetish Rituals, but I can only budget once a month at best. I can't compete with the Pittsburgh rat chasers.

It looks like my options are to start a cult, move somewhere with options, or fantasize stronger.

Starting a cult would be hard for me because I don't take even my own religion seriously, I'll be excommunicated. Move somewhere else, where? Occultists / Tantrists are famous for their low population density everywhere. I think fantasizing stronger probably means going pro artistically, but there are barely any pro artists, so that means I would have to do something else to subsidize the art.

And that is why I (and I suspect many guys) almost exclusively use SA now. You pretty much know who the pros or girls aware of a hobby type scene are. Trying to build a connection in one meet with a pro at the rates these days is pretty much foolish. SA girls are much less expensive and more of a gfe than any provider you can see. With a few exceptions, granted. Pittsburgh is a wasteland now. There are very few ladies like you, Morgan, that can carry and participate in a conversation AND throw down BCD. There's no added value in more than 30 minutes for me.
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Old 03-21-2021, 07:23 PM   #36
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It’s ok to say fat lol and it’s ok to like really thin chicks. I guess a lot of hh are without any teasing or foreplay and that’s probably my favorite part. Quickies definitely have their place in life and that’s awesome. This biz is all about variety!
Totally agree and I must say, I was devastated when I gained weight when I quit smoking in 2020, but I have never had more inquiries/regulars than I have now, and I'm still just a size 14/XL. Silver lining, since quitting tobacco (cold turkey) I never have to worry about smelling like cigarettes or taking a cig break on longer engagements!

I do want to be healthy so I will ditch the post quitting lbs., I also can not accept having to part with thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of clothing and dresses in my previous size 8/M-L.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:42 PM   #37
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I’m 63 and workout. Like I said, I went to 1/2hrs 10yrs ago. It appears from this thread, many others have too. But thanks for the rude response.
Sorry, you once had a sense of humor. It was a joke cranky pants.

There are many clients I see that don’t seek MPOPs in an hour, or even 2 or more hours and enjoy foreplay and other activities to extend pleasure until the end. Not being able to go more than once in an hour wouldn’t be the only reason you would rush in 30 minutes I would think. It’s not the rarest thing for a client to leave after 20 minutes, it does happen from time to time especially in NYC lol. I can get fast and furious when asked (I do have skills and I can shut up quickly) but I still get the entire hour rate. I suppose they would schedule less time if I offered it. I’m more concerned about the quick turnaround of the arrival/departure which I think draws attention.

I understand if you feel rushed into leaving regardless of what you schedule. I also understand tight schedules. I’m getting mostly that if you are entertained beyond expectations you would stay longer, time permitting of course.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:57 PM   #38
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And that is why I (and I suspect many guys) almost exclusively use SA now. You pretty much know who the pros or girls aware of a hobby type scene are. Trying to build a connection in one meet with a pro at the rates these days is pretty much foolish. SA girls are much less expensive and more of a gfe than any provider you can see. With a few exceptions, granted. Pittsburgh is a wasteland now. There are very few ladies like you, Morgan, that can carry and participate in a conversation AND throw down BCD. There's no added value in more than 30 minutes for me.
That’s great if you can find something that works for you. I have clients that tried to go down that road that wasted time and money for subpar experiences and ended up in real binds. At least with a true pro they are getting a drama free, extra curricular free, regular tested and not going to show up at your doorstep experience. I was in those arrangements and married into one very young before becoming a provider and let’s just say he’s currently paying college tuition for our son haha. Over a lifetime probably 500k plus for 4 months together.... my rates would have been a bargain.

Thanks for the compliment btw, I truly enjoy entertaining! I hate dating so this is sooooo my thing.

That’s awesome Elle, guys would much rather make out with a non smoker for 20 minutes while holding onto your nice, ample behind I’m sure! Guys do love variety and as long as you are an amazing provider with accurate photos and great them well you really can’t go wrong in this biz.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:50 PM   #39
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Sorry, you once had a sense of humor. It was a joke cranky pants.

There are many clients I see that don’t seek MPOPs in an hour, or even 2 or more hours and enjoy foreplay and other activities to extend pleasure until the end. Not being able to go more than once in an hour wouldn’t be the only reason you would rush in 30 minutes I would think. It’s not the rarest thing for a client to leave after 20 minutes, it does happen from time to time especially in NYC lol. I can get fast and furious when asked (I do have skills and I can shut up quickly) but I still get the entire hour rate. I suppose they would schedule less time if I offered it. I’m more concerned about the quick turnaround of the arrival/departure which I think draws attention.

I understand if you feel rushed into leaving regardless of what you schedule. I also understand tight schedules. I’m getting mostly that if you are entertained beyond expectations you would stay longer, time permitting of course.
I thanked you for your response. Did I say you couldn’t ask a question? No. I said this has been debated many times. I have a very good sense of humor. To be honest, yours wasn’t a very original attempt. I responded to this thread with my opinion. Seems like a lot of guys are of like mind. Seems like you got a case of “cranky pants”.
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I thanked you for your response. Did I say you couldn’t ask a question? No. I said this has been debated many times. I have a very good sense of humor. To be honest, yours wasn’t a very original attempt. I responded to this thread with my opinion. Seems like a lot of guys are of like mind. Seems like you got a case of “cranky pants”.
Yap yap yap. Go hobby or something for whatever length suits you.
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Yap yap yap. Go hobby or something for whatever length suits you.
I’ll do just that. Always did, always will. You do the same. It’s that simple. It’s all good.
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Old 03-23-2021, 06:49 PM   #42
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i just evolved in that direction, it seemed a more intelligent and more fiscally relative way to go.

several reasons

im not a repeater , i was almost always one visit per provider

and this was more of a preference of enjoying the most individual experiences and connections with another that i could.

i just found that each experience for the most part unique in its own way and it was the individuality of the physical experience that was a big part of the turn on for me. Have you heard the term its a whole lot different and a whole lot the same !

for the most part i was there to enjoy the physical and after a half of that i wasnt really into much more and the session usually deteriorated where i left long before the hour was up.

There were so many instances where the the first half was great only to totally fall off the second due to the provider and sometimes myself.

im sure some ladies prefer the hour and quite competently deliver for an hour but in 5 years of activity i can only think of a couple that actually did .

and of course this is JMHO !
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Old 03-23-2021, 07:20 PM   #43
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Yap yap yap. Go hobby or something for whatever length suits you.
I qoute Morgan, because she answered her own question “ whatever length suits you” Says it all doesn’t it?
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Old 03-24-2021, 05:06 PM   #44
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The girls I see either don't speak English or don't have a good bedside manner. There is just no reason to stay longer. That said, I do book an hour and very rarely less....just in case. Normally, I just leave early.
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Old 03-25-2021, 03:03 PM   #45
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Totally agree and I must say, I was devastated when I gained weight when I quit smoking in 2020, but I have never had more inquiries/regulars than I have now, and I'm still just a size 14/XL. Silver lining, since quitting tobacco (cold turkey) I never have to worry about smelling like cigarettes or taking a cig break on longer engagements!

I do want to be healthy so I will ditch the post quitting lbs., I also can not accept having to part with thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of clothing and dresses in my previous size 8/M-L.
I was a 3 pack a day person. When I quit a girl at my doctors office said Id put on 25 lb, I put on 30 lb like right now.

I've been trying to get the weight back off for 7 years.



You look fine.
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