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Old 05-04-2015, 03:15 AM   #31
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The fact that you call me simple while believing it's that simple, is cute. Nothing involving government and money is 'very simple'. You're very simple, though. That I would believe. Bush had a war thrust upon him? Remind me again, was it Iraq that had a part in 9/11?
Did I say "wars"? I wrote "war" idiot. Afghanistan...maybe you've heard of it. Obama is losing that one too.

It is simple, spend less money than you take in and you'll have a balanced budget before you know it. I guess I have to write this considering the caliber of intellect I'm talking to, it will take years to get out from under the debt that has been incurred the last 100 years.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:18 AM   #32
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So you cherrypick one country. Predictable. Read this article. Our system ranks 37th, behind countries like Costa Rica and Iceland. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.

http://www.businessinsider.com/best-...6#14-greece-23

Proof positive that you don't understand what a right is. A right requires nothing from anyone else. My right to speak my mind does not require anyone to listen or support me. My right to be treated equally requires that no one do anything different for me than anyone else.

Your "right" requires someone to provide that healthcare. By definition is it not a right and has never been a right anymore than someone has a right to a house or an education.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:22 AM   #33
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You could also word it better. You mention gdp last quarter and then launch into first quarter 2015. Technically, that WAS the last quarter. The second quarter just ended.

You are confused. Are you talking chronological or fiscal? The new year started in October which means that Jan. to March is the second quarter of the 2015 year. I pointed out that the last quarter had dismal performance but you call that the first quarter??? If that is the case (as you see it) then the second quarter has not ended yet. In fact, no quarter has just ended. The quarter ended over a month ago in March. So drink some coffee and get off the hooch.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:25 AM   #34
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You fucking idiot. The first quarter number was down 0.2, not 2.7.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/29/news...t-quarter-gdp/

And there are no second quarter numbers yet. So you lied, twice.
No, no, no. The fiscal second quarter ended on March 31st. It is over and we have the numbers. It is not DOWN .2 %. It was only .2%. You really have trouble with this stuff don't you.
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Old 05-04-2015, 06:46 AM   #35
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Obama inherited the biggest deficit in our history. This is not up for debate. A president can't be held entirely responsible for the deficit in his first year. That budget was set the previous year under the previous administration. Fiscal year 2009 actually began in October of 2008. That's when it's all Obama's.

In fact, two pieces of legislation he signed make up a third of his total deficits run. The stimulus of 2009 and the Tax relief act of 2010 that extended the Bush tax cuts and cut SS for two years. The question we should be asking, instead of trying to play wack-a-mole is to figure out what the hell we are going to do next.
You're harfing again, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. It's a dim-retard -- Reid and Pelosi -- lie that when Odumbo entered office in 2009 that the budget was "set" and inherited from Bush43, you "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.

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Absolutely hilarious, since the one "true government sole provider health care system".. otherwise known as the VA.. is transitioning to "vouchers" to allow VA patients to see "private" medical service providers.

So what you want is for everyone to have VA like coverage where you get in line and wait a year or so to be seen by a doctor and possibly DIE while waiting?

Or was there some other type of "single payer" system you had in mind that is different?
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:02 AM   #36
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And Obama's 2016 Budget will add another $6 trillion to the deficit!

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Oba.../12/id/629803/
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:43 AM   #37
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Did I say "wars"? I wrote "war" idiot. Afghanistan...maybe you've heard of it. Obama is losing that one too.

It is simple, spend less money than you take in and you'll have a balanced budget before you know it. I guess I have to write this considering the caliber of intellect I'm talking to, it will take years to get out from under the debt that has been incurred the last 100 years.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to mention Iraq either if I were you. Keep ignoring it. No one has ever been successful in afghanistan.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:48 AM   #38
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Proof positive that you don't understand what a right is. A right requires nothing from anyone else. My right to speak my mind does not require anyone to listen or support me. My right to be treated equally requires that no one do anything different for me than anyone else.

Your "right" requires someone to provide that healthcare. By definition is it not a right and has never been a right anymore than someone has a right to a house or an education.
Jesus, you're so goddamn dumb. A right requires nothing from anyone else? Are you for real? You first say that it doesn't require anything, then you list two things that it requires

Look, if you want to live in a country that doesn't value its citizens, that's fine. Did you ever think that maybe there was a better way of doing things? Look at where we rank globally in areas that matter; education, healthcare, etc. We're not the best at any of those things and yet we have people like you who would have us believe we're the shit and can do no wrong. Wake up. We need to change some things around in order to improve as a nation. Don't you want us to be the best that we can be? You and people like you, are so afraid of any change at all. You think we should just get back to the good old days or some shit.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:13 AM   #39
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You're an idiot. What was the national debt when Obama took office? What will it be when Obama leaves office? What is the difference between those two numbers?
Not more than "all other presidents combined", as you ASSininely suggested. you bumbling idiot.
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Not more than "all other presidents combined", as you ASSininely suggested. you bumbling idiot.
Do the math, idiot.
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:47 PM   #41
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Jesus, you're so goddamn dumb. A right requires nothing from anyone else? Are you for real? You first say that it doesn't require anything, then you list two things that it requires

Look, if you want to live in a country that doesn't value its citizens, that's fine. Did you ever think that maybe there was a better way of doing things? Look at where we rank globally in areas that matter; education, healthcare, etc. We're not the best at any of those things and yet we have people like you who would have us believe we're the shit and can do no wrong. Wake up. We need to change some things around in order to improve as a nation. Don't you want us to be the best that we can be? You and people like you, are so afraid of any change at all. You think we should just get back to the good old days or some shit.
You've just proven my point better than I can idiot.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:04 PM   #42
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He proved your point better than you can idiot? I don't know. He proved your point, but you can idiot pretty well. Lol! Sorry, I had to post this. Commas are your friend!
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:08 PM   #43
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You've just proven my point better than I can idiot.
So you're ok with being mediocre then?

And I'm with cog, you can idiot pretty fucking good.
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WormRaper, while JD is good at idioting, you are Olympic Class in the art. Don't kid yourself, you can out-idiot most everyone on this board.
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WormRaper, while JD is good at idioting, you are Olympic Class in the art. Don't kid yourself, you can out-idiot most everyone on this board.
If only you knew...
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