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BLM69 · 09-09-2021, 05:04 PM

Anyone ever heard the saying that you can't turn a hoe into a housewife? Trying to date a provider is worst than that, Only weak lonely fucks that have no other options would consider doing this

We know what goes on BCD in the hobby, would any Man be OK with having a partner that does that? They would have to leave the hobby 100% and the guy would still have to think twice about jumping in

I had hire a whore I fuck with for some housework and she brought her male friend to help, of coarse I planned for some fun time, come to find out the friend was her husband, while his woman is getting pumped the idiot is in the same house, I lost respect for both of them that day. Her for doing it and him for allowing it

pmdelites · 09-10-2021, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baldbrotha1

Lets be honest, the 2 have to love each other. ... The ONLY Man that tells you he's comfortable (the provider) having sex with other men; is a pimp! Lol! This notion that the relationship can survive under these ... If it works, you'll be the exception, NOT THE NORM.

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Originally Posted by baldbrotha1

Infidelity under any act is a high hurdle to clear. If it has ANY chance, she has to get out of the biz! I have a long time friend, provider ALL the terms apply, but hearing the John stories? Lol! Not good relationship builders! Lmao SMH

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Originally Posted by BLM69

Anyone ever heard the saying that you can't turn a hoe into a housewife? Trying to date a provider is worst than that, Only weak lonely fucks that have no other options would consider doing this

We know what goes on BCD in the hobby, would any Man be OK with having a partner that does that? ...

I had hire a whore I fuck with for some housework and she brought her male friend to help, of coarse I planned for some fun time, come to find out the friend was her husband, while his woman is getting pumped the idiot is in the same house, I lost respect for both of them that day. Her for doing it and him for allowing it

b.s. to all that.
seems to me those are tropes, stereotypes, "society says..." stories that people tell again and again. doesnt mean they are 100% true.

yes, being in a commited relationdhip w/ a provider (and open or not in the real world) is NOT for everyone and has low probability of success, but it is not 0%. it can and does happen. i know of several relationships like this.

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Originally Posted by NuruGuru

I have a girl in the business that's trying to date me. I'm actually picking her up from another state and we're going to travel together. Idk if I'm cool with her maintaining a position in the business though.

if you are not sure about having a relationship w/ her while she has sex w/ clients, then dont! simple as that. otherwise, you're just taking advantage of the "relationship".

BLM69 · 09-10-2021, 03:24 AM

A open relationship I would call that a fuck buddy or booty call, I've had plenty of those type of women, they are fun times for sure but I wouldn't call them a relationship

A relationship to me is a committed relationship with one person, a loyal person that isn't sucking or blowing other guys, like what type of Man would be okay with that going on? Unless if you like to be the cleanup guy

Let's keep it real here, dating a hooker can be more like a arrangement, maybe she needs a easy life and the guy needs to nut often, can be a win win and see how this can work out. Take away the easy life and let's see how long she sticks around and is back here hoe'ing again

A regular woman not in the hobby that has her stuff together just seems like the best option, not saying there's not BSC women out there specially these days, but I like to minimize a potential failure. At the end of the day people will do what they want, that's just my take on the subject

baldbrotha1 · 09-10-2021, 07:15 PM

PM Delights I said there's a slim possibility if both step away. Have you successfully dated a provider?

pmdelites · 09-11-2021, 10:26 PM

baldbrotha1, and there's a low probability of success if neither or both dont step away.

my point is rather than say "aint no fuckin' way it'll work" or "no one in their "right" mind would do this" ...
just let the parties know that if they DONT go in w/ eyes open (make an informed decision), the probability of it failing are even higher. but w/ information & boundaries set (just as in any committed rekationship), it can last a while. maybe "forever", maybe not.

no, i've never dated a provider - never really wanted to (tho, there was one provider [and off-broadway actor] in nyc that i really lusted after). i've been in a committed relationship for many many moons. i do know of three providers w/ an S.O. who still provide. i dont know if the guys see other women (providers or not)b one couple are bdsm-type swingers.

BLM, wrt "A relationship to me is a committed relationship with one person, a loyal person that isn't sucking or blowing other guys, like what type of Man would be okay with that going on? Unless if you like to be the cleanup guy"

that's YOUR definition of a relationship.
it's not the only one.
if that works for you, great!
other definitions works for others.

ias mentioned above, i've have been in a "committed" relationship for many many moons. for about 5 or 6 yrs, we were ok w/ the other having sexual encounters w/ 3rd parties. two rules which we kept - no diseases, no leaving the relationship for the 3rd party. when all our 3rd parties moved out of dallas, we hung it up cos we didnt wanna go the bar scene or pickup route. she was ok w/ me seeing providers as long as a) no diseases, b) my spending didnt affect out finances, c) i didnt regale/go on about them. if one of her lovers came to town to visit, i was ok w/ her spending time w/ him. it works for us.

point is, lots of diversity in relationships.
let it flow, let it flow, let it flow.

BLM69 · 09-12-2021, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pmdelites

BLM, wrt "A relationship to me is a committed relationship with one person, a loyal person that isn't sucking or blowing other guys, like what type of Man would be okay with that going on? Unless if you like to be the cleanup guy"

that's YOUR definition of a relationship.
it's not the only one.
if that works for you, great!
other definitions works for others.

ias mentioned above, i've have been in a "committed" relationship for many many moons. for about 5 or 6 yrs, we were ok w/ the other having sexual encounters w/ 3rd parties. two rules which we kept - no diseases, no leaving the relationship for the 3rd party. when all our 3rd parties moved out of dallas, we hung it up cos we didnt wanna go the bar scene or pickup route. she was ok w/ me seeing providers as long as a) no diseases, b) my spending didnt affect out finances, c) i didnt regale/go on about them. if one of her lovers came to town to visit, i was ok w/ her spending time w/ him. it works for us.

point is, lots of diversity in relationships.
let it flow, let it flow, let it flow.

Whatever works for you, Most guys or women in a committed relationship wouldn't go for this. I've had a similar thing with side chicks that I would see mostly weekends, I was always honest that I was evolved and would never bring up (I'm also messing with so and so) My thing was always don't ask, don't tell

I/We would cut it off when they wanted more (like a relationship) I've let some really good women go because I wouldn't leave the S,O, I was only there for the fun aka the BCD action. Now I'm a single Man, go figure 😂

pmdelites · 09-12-2021, 12:33 PM

i agree that most people in a committed relationship wouldnt go into or couldnt handle an "open" or "quasi-open" relationship.
but there are folks who can.

different strokes for different folks.

Big Ed · 09-12-2021, 04:50 PM

I guess I've reached that postmodern mindset where I see the limited utility of monogamy. Sexual pleasure along with eating are probably the only two genuine physical pleasures in life. It's not by accident as both pleasures in the past led to more people in the world which enforces the traits. However now there is no biological dependency on either thanks to our technology. The average person eats too much and fucks too little and there are too many people on the planet anyway. The 'meaning' people find in monogamy or in romantic relationships however satisfying are really are just artifacts of instinct rooted in societal traditions that no longer really make sense in our post-scarcity world.

But still we what we are. I used to be jealous and what not. I am still somewhat of a romantic. I am still capable of jealousy but I when I feel it I realize I'm just getting caught up in the game of life. In the end there are no winners we all die and most will be forgotten eventually.

Sexual pleasure is one of the few 'wins' people get in life however meaningless. Woman getting paid for sex is natural, males always battered for sex. The whole 'you break it you own it' hymen marriage tradition limits women when they are young and beautiful as it effectively makes them property. However the equation changes as woman get older to a degree as they benefit from the stability. Personally I'd much rather be married to a working girl than a woman waiting for me to retire to get half my wealth at peak value.

Having said that it would bother me if my SO screwed others to afford high dollar items or to afford a lot of unmentionables. In the end it's the overall quality of the person and how they match my values is what matters. I don't think I'd get married again. It seems like a young man's game where they are following instinct and don't get the risks and don't understand the limited benefits.

baldbrotha1 · 09-12-2021, 10:52 PM

PM Delites...I concur brotha!

baldbrotha1 · 09-12-2021, 10:53 PM

I know a provider as well that's still providing. And their relationship is fucked up! A big transaction that's become very toxic!

Eudemon · 09-14-2021, 03:31 PM

I have a relationship with a long time provider who is very well known and reviewed on this board. She is a high energy multiorgasmic performer and I am a high libido, high stamina performer. In general we are perfect for each other except that she gets it multiple times a day and I only get it once a week. She's flat told me to go find a side chick since she can't take care of me as much as I would like. The problem with that is if you drive a hot rod Corvette on the weekend, who wants to putter around in a Volkswagen when somebody else is out racing in your Corvette?

baldbrotha1 · 09-14-2021, 03:36 PM

I'm sure the money doesn't hurt...there is one well known and well reviewed provider that runs that same game on a lot of John's! I'm just saying

LickHer · 09-14-2021, 04:27 PM

About 8 years ago, I happened to really "click" with 3 providers, one of which was an escort and the other 2 "body rub" girls. Knowing that they were doing various levels of sexual things for money, I had no trouble having all 3 be my "girl friend." They were so busy with the hobby I had plenty of time for each and none was the wiser. I'm sure they all thought I was fucking only them free of charge. To me it would have been foolish to put all my eggs in one basket as it's well known that hobby girls eventually flake out or want to stop providing and be a wife or close to it. It was fun for close to 2 years, but I finally had to be real with myself and stop seeing them all and get back to a normal relationship with an intelligent productive woman. Now I use the hobby much less frequently and don't let it consume me, not even close. I would highly recommend that my fellow hobbyists never, never get into a serious relationship with a provider as it will most likely lead to future regret and sorrow.

BLM69 · 09-14-2021, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LickHer

It was fun for close to 2 years, but I finally had to be real with myself and stop seeing them all and get back to a normal relationship with an intelligent productive woman.

Sometimes I think to myself, WTF am I doing with a woman that drains Men's cocks for a living, only when she sucks at her job, when they're good all I think about WOW that was some good pussy

I see and understand your point though, do we want loyalty and someone that cares for us but can bitch at times? Or a hooker to drain me when needed, at this point I need my fun first and love that I don't have anyone that bitches daily. Life is good

baldbrotha1 · 09-15-2021, 07:10 AM

BLM I get you brother, but finding someone to do the "freaky" shit is easy! What's jard is loyalty that's rare. I submit to you the reason this argument is debated so often, is we're looking for a freak, loyalty and little to NO bitching! Lol! That's a unicorn my brother, an expensive unicorn. Besides, the more you're around that provider, the more she's like your GF. She's selling fantasies one hour at a time! Lmao! I reconfirm, both have to get out of the hobby to make it work. 99.9%