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Old 03-07-2019, 05:35 PM   #31
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:37 PM   #32
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Intelligent people are talking.
I know Yssup & I are talking, wtf does that have to do with the topic?


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No its not. Its being used to mock HER....Einstein.
Yes it is smart one. Mocking HER would be saying something like "Elizabitch WarNuts" or something else stupid like that. Genius
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:40 PM   #33
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Sycophants gonna syncophize!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:41 PM   #34
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Lmao the only thing I know is that I prefer smartasses over dumbasses.

I agree 100%. Only a complete dumbass would bring up Hitler when he has nothing at all to do with the topic

Pocahontas is not RACIST

In the manner it is being used it most certainly is "Smart One"

The crazy bitch lied and said she was native american.

Once again I agree, she is a crazy bitch. I don't care for her anymore than the retards on the right. I'm glad she won't be the nominee

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Old 03-07-2019, 05:43 PM   #35
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Yeah she really took it to me alright!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



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Fuck Warren!! She's done. Thank the gods!
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:55 PM   #36
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Keep on topic.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:41 PM   #37
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[Elizabeth Warren] is a faux academic who fudged the data used in a study purporting to show medical bills are the main cause of personal bankruptcy in the US.
I never heard this before so Googled it. This is what I found:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.e1ff1eba927c

Don't belittle her study. Her seminal work showed that half of people who went bankrupt also got sick and went to see a doctor. This should never happen in America.
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I never heard this before so Googled it. This is what I found:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.e1ff1eba927c

Don't belittle her study. Her seminal work showed that half of people who went bankrupt also got sick and went to see a doctor. This should never happen in America.
Tiny - the WaPo author in your link appears to agree with me. She calls Warren's estimates "inflated". She points to a more recent study (using more credible methodology) that puts the percentage of personal bankruptcies caused by medical bills at only 4%.

Here is a critique of Warren's studies written by a prominent bankruptcy law professor back in 2010, when Obama appointed her to run the newly created (and unaccountable) CFPB.

I believe data should inform policy. It shouldn't be crafted and fudged to reach a desired conclusion or overstate the need for a policy.


In Elizabeth Warren We Trust?

The unaccountable head of the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has repeatedly used shoddy data to push policies she favors.


By Todd Zywicki
Updated Sept. 30, 2010 12:01 a.m. ET

The Obama administration has promised that the Federal Reserve's new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau will be independent from politics, a model of regulatory expertise grounded in sound data and economics. Naming Harvard Law Prof. Elizabeth Warren as de facto agency head undermines both goals.

By appointing another White House czar to avoid Senate confirmation, the administration politicized the powerful new bureaucracy from its birth. And by appointing an individual with a track record of using questionable research to advance policy ends, it has jeopardized the second goal as well.

Consider Ms. Warren's much-ballyhooed study on the alleged link among health problems, medical expenses and personal bankruptcy filings. Published in the February 2005 issue of Health Affairs, the report was timed to head off bipartisan bankruptcy legislation that was enacted later that year. Ms. Warren and her co-authors claimed that "at least" 46% of personal bankruptcy filings in 2001 (the year from which they collected the data) were the result of "medical causes," and that this represented a 23-fold increase over 20 years.

Both conclusions are extremely suspect. First, the study provided an implausibly broad definition of "medical bankruptcy" - including any filer who reported uncontrolled gambling, drug or alcohol addiction, or the birth or adoption of a child.

Equally dubious, the authors classified a bankruptcy as having a "major medical cause" if the individual had accumulated more than $1,000 in out-of-pocket medical expenses (uncovered by insurance) over the course of two years prior to filing -regardless of income, and even if the debtor did not cite illness or injury among the reasons for bankruptcy.

In 2001, average per capita out-of-pocket medical expenses were $683. During the two-year period Ms. Warren and her co-authors studied, in other words, Americans spent an average of $1,366 on uninsured medical expenses, or 30% more than their threshold definition of a "major medical cause." There was no larger context for their threshold figure: A debtor with $1,001 in uncovered medical expenses and $50,000 on a Saks card would constitute a "medical bankruptcy" in their study.

The claim of a 23-fold increase in medical bankruptcies was based on a comparison of their 2001 data with Ms. Warren's research in a 1981 study - which appears to count only those who self-reported as having filed bankruptcy for medical reasons. This is a completely different and much narrower definition of "medical bankruptcy" than the one she used 20 years later, and obviously inflates the increase.

In contrast to Ms. Warren's studies, a battery of analysis, including research done by the Department of Justice's Executive Office of the United States Trustee (which oversees the administration of bankruptcy cases), and by David Dranove and Michael Millenson of Northwestern University, concluded that fewer than 20% of bankruptcies are caused by health problems or medical expenses.

Last year Ms. Warren and her co-authors were back with an even more dramatic study, in the American Journal of Medicine, timed to promote President Obama's health-care reform law. Drawing on 2007 filings, the authors concluded that 62% of bankruptcy filings were the result of medical issues and that the odds that a bankruptcy had a medical cause had doubled between just 2001 and 2007. This study was also flawed.

After Congress made it harder for people to skip out on their debts in 2005, the number of bankruptcy filings plummeted. In 2001, the year Ms. Warren used for the first study, there were 1,452,030 personal bankruptcy filings; in 2007 there were 822,590. Even if we are to accept the methodologies of the two studies for the sake of argument, there were 670,838 "medical bankruptcies" in 2001 and 510,828 medical bankruptcies in 2007 - a drop of 160,000 per year. Yet Ms. Warren's article nowhere acknowledges that the absolute number of bankruptcies and purported medical bankruptcies declined.

Concerns about Ms. Warren's presentation and interpretation of data have been longstanding. As I wrote in these pages in August 2007, her book "The Two-Income Trap" willfully ignores the obvious in her own data: that spiraling taxes - and not living expenses - were a major cause of middle class financial woes.

Similarly, reports of the Congressional Oversight Panel of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) - a panel of which she was chair - uniformly treated home foreclosures as the result of bank fraud and the bullying of helpless homeowners. Fraud and bullying there was, but her panel consistently ignored the many foreclosures that have resulted from a homeowner's strategic decision to walk away from a house whose value has fallen below the amount still owed on the mortgage. Economists and housing analysts widely agree that a substantial number of defaults occur for this reason. That reality is largely absent from the TARP panel's reports.

The head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is one of the most powerful bureaucratic positions ever created in the American political system. It can regulate or ban almost every consumer credit product in the country, yet it is beyond Congress's power of the purse because its budget is guaranteed as a percentage of the Fed's annual revenues. Under normal circumstances, the Senate would have the opportunity to ask Ms. Warren to explain the way in which she has sometimes interpreted data in her research before entrusting her with control of the agency.

By doing an end-run around the confirmation process, the Obama administration has eliminated our opportunity to find out. And by installing the head of the agency as an assistant to the president inside the White House, it has insulated her from meaningful congressional oversight.

Mr. Zywicki teaches bankruptcy and contracts at the George Mason University School of Law, and is the co-editor of the University of Chicago's Supreme Court Economic Review.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001...12060220672440
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And NOW ( DMN today ) She wants to break up the Tech giants ,, so just damn she's showing just how much she hates capitalism
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Equally dubious, the authors classified a bankruptcy as having a "major medical cause" if the individual had accumulated more than $1,000 in out-of-pocket medical expenses (uncovered by insurance) over the course of two years prior to filing -regardless of income, and even if the debtor did not cite illness or injury among the reasons for bankruptcy.

In 2001, average per capita out-of-pocket medical expenses were $683. During the two-year period Ms. Warren and her co-authors studied, in other words, Americans spent an average of $1,366 on uninsured medical expenses, or 30% more than their threshold definition of a "major medical cause."
This is absolutely nuts. Apparently most of us are destined for bankruptcy according to Warren and her co-authors.
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^ that's the point so that Gov .com can step in and save us ( just think social med for all )
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What does Hitler have to do with the topic??? NOTHING.


Well she might just have a point if Hitler has more "nonwhite" heritages than "Pocahontas" does.
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God save the Queen.
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Yeah she really took it to me alright!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Back on Topic!!

Fuck Warren!! She's done. Thank the gods!
Yeah He's done too. Thank the gods!

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God save the Queen.

Save the Badger Badger Badger!!!!!


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KEEP THE BADGERS ALIVE!!!!!
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