GOP says 5,000 non-citizens voting in Colorado a 'wake-up call' for states

[Randy4Candy]

Originally Posted by Iaintliein

Of course it could have been worse. Come on, Al Gore is an out and out lunatic, CO2 a pollutant??? WTF, you are smarter than that.

Well, strictly speaking, I suppose it's not a pollutant - BUT - one would have one heckuva time living if it was all there was to breathe.

[GBN94]

Originally Posted by Marshall

Would you agree that it is a problem and something needs to be done?

I can't tell if people are naive or suffer from misplaced paranoia.

All elections are rife with fraud. American ones are no less immune and to become fixated on this story in CO as if it was some tipping point highlights the myopia of some people's understanding of reality. Even if that story was true it would be nothing compared to what is the status quo every election cycle since the dawn of time.

Kennedy would have never won the presidency if it wasn't for fraud. And everyone in the country knew it at the time. That incident sparked off a sense of resentment and suspicion that stayed with Nixon for the rest of his life and in no small way contributed to his resignation because he took asinine measures to ensure he wasn't cheated again. Which is to say he employed criminal tactics.

And in local elections fraud and voter tampering is worse and more blatant. For every area in the south where African Americans claim voter intimidation by hardline conservative voters you have unions coercing membership and their families to vote democrat in northern cities.

Then you have gerrymandering, forged signatures on ballot petitions (you know, how Obama was even able to get into public office in the first place), disappearing ballot boxes, PACs secretly receiving foreign money, and now mysteriously faulty electronic voting machines.....

So no, this is not the most pressing problem on the list of securing fair elections in the nation. Its an idiotic tangent that is meant to pander to cross section of the polarized electorate that is looking to reinforce their own existing agenda. I am sure someone else out there is going to zero in on the fact the article quoted was written by a jew to backup some other nutjob theory.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by GBN94

Then you have gerrymandering, forged signatures on ballot petitions (you know, how Obama was even able to get into public office in the first place),

I think you need to re-read the first sentence in your post.

And you were doing so well, too.

[GBN94]

And I think you need to familiarize yourself with political history or fine tune your reading comprehension skills.

Obama's state Senate seat was won only because he had the voting petitions of the other candidates scrutinized for fake or invalid signatures. Since the petitions were filled with improperly signed, duplicate, and outright false signatures they were thrown out and Obama ran uncontested in the race. He would have never beat Palmer if not for that.

[Doove]

Fair 'nuff.

You're right, i mis-read.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by GBN94

And I think you need to familiarize yourself with political history or fine tune your reading comprehension skills.

Obama's state Senate seat was won only because he had the voting petitions of the other candidates scrutinized for fake or invalid signatures. Since the petitions were filled with improperly signed, duplicate, and outright false signatures they were thrown out and Obama ran uncontested in the race. He would have never beat Palmer if not for that.

You seem to be indicating that Obama engaged in deception and fraud. The only thing I see in your statement is that Obama used the rules in place to his benefit. Nothing wrong with that. The other side could have done the same.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

You seem to be indicating that Obama engaged in deception and fraud.

Yeah, his first comment, the one that i "mis-read", clearly seemed to indicate that.

[pyramider]

The dead, and not the dead mods, voted en masse for Clinton in '92.