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Old 06-14-2015, 10:03 PM   #391
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I have never in my life seen where a sugar daddy was the sole provider to the sugar baby and it worked out.

Ever
I've had friends that had a SD for 4+ years, put them thru nursing school ect... They got on their feet and made something of themselves. When you're in these types of SD/SB relationships, you both have to agree on one thing. I'm good for you and I do you good! Then everything kinda just works out.
I've actually been in plenty of these types of arrangements but my problem is that they usually end up falling for me... They offer cars house and financial stability but there's no way that I'd ever marry anyone for money. And I've had good offers many girls would call me stupid for turning down. But at the end of the day, you have to think long and hard. Do you want to ruin someone's marriage? Do you want to be in love with him? Or his $$$?
That's where shit can hit the fan ijs...
I'd love to find one and only one who can have all my time and attention instead of doing this lol. I'd take all my stuff offline if that ever was to happen.
But yes, think about it ladies. Sometimes it pays off to have your feet on the ground and know exactly what you want to do. Education is or should be a top priority. Educate yourself then you won't need anyone to take care of you.
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Old 06-15-2015, 05:08 AM   #392
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So you have been in plenty of these relationships and had offers but you would be willing to take all your stuff offline and go with a steady client?

With all these offers you should have someone in a day.

Hahahahahahaha
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No. I said have had them. Have had offers in the past. Gosh dude, learn how to read...
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:42 PM   #394
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No. I said have had them. Have had offers in the past. Gosh dude, learn how to read...
Reading is not really his issue. He just has a very rigid idea about things and allows no room for dissenting views. He is not really very hard to understand after reading a few of his posts.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:40 PM   #395
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Reading is not really his issue. He just has a very rigid idea about things and allows no room for dissenting views. He is not really very hard to understand after reading a few of his posts.
yeah, I noticed he's not too liked ...
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:14 AM   #396
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Uh, that breaks my heart a hooker doesnt like me.

Until I bring cash out, then you dont care about my personality.
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Old 06-16-2015, 07:15 AM   #397
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No. I said have had them. Have had offers in the past. Gosh dude, learn how to read...
And I said...

So you have been in plenty of these relationships and had offers but you would be willing to take all your stuff offline and go with a steady client?

With all these offers you should have someone in a day.

Learn how to put things in context.
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Old 06-16-2015, 08:56 AM   #398
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Call me crazy , but I actually have to agree with *some* of GotYour6's points here.

If you are in an SD/SB relationship and said SD is your only source of income, it will not work longer than a few months. Definitely not at least a year. Reason being, the SD does eventually get bored especially if the SB is not showing any kind of aspirations or goals for herself. After the newness of the sex wears off, all that left is a money hungry girl with no substance. Men tire of that, no matter how sexy you think you are. No man wants to be solely responsible for someone that is not his wife or children. It becomes more hassle than it's worth to him.

Secondly, a hookers mindset IS very different from an SB. A hooker is used to immediate gratification with little effort or upkeep of the relationship. It's no big deal if Joe doesn't call her again because she has Matt tmrw and Gary the day after that. However, an SB needs to put in a little more time, effort, as well as patience. She needs to maintain the relationship and keep his interest. This is a relationship not a transaction. Being a successful Sugarbaby is not as easy as one might think. It is stressful to put all your eggs in one basket as the SD can suddenly decide to end things at any moment and the sugarbaby is stuck like chuck. This is why this arrangement works better if the SB is in school or has a career in addition to the SD. Being an escort is definitely much easier than being a Sugarbaby but if you're willing to put in the time and effort, the long term rewards of being a Sugarbaby are worth it.

Making the transition from SB to escort has proven a bit tough for me as I abhor the transactional mindset. I'm only comfortable having minimal clients, and I can't help but try to form friendships with each of them. After a session when I text or email just to converse, these clients tend to get a little weirded out. They are not used to an escort striking up conversations that does not revolve around a session. Some actually prefer the transactional approach and do not want to form any attachments. Obviously,this is why they go to escorts and not a Sugarbaby. I'm still learning to adjust to that, but I'm not the best at p4p.

I'm used to having long term arrangements with only one or 2 gentlemen(long term meaning over one year) , but they are never my sole income as I also have a career. At the moment I'm currently unattached and seeking new *friends* until something ongoing develops.

-a former Sugarbaby
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:25 AM   #399
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And I said...

So you have been in plenty of these relationships and had offers but you would be willing to take all your stuff offline and go with a steady client?

With all these offers you should have someone in a day.

Learn how to put things in context.
Uh, yah, and I would. But I was talking past tense hahah! Secondly, I don't like or dislike you. I don't know you.
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There also has to be a physical/ mental attraction... Treat him like a king, and everything's cool...


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Call me crazy , but I actually have to agree with *some* of GotYour6's points here.

If you are in an SD/SB relationship and said SD is your only source of income, it will not work longer than a few months. Definitely not at least a year. Reason being, the SD does eventually get bored especially if the SB is not showing any kind of aspirations or goals for herself. After the newness of the sex wears off, all that left is a money hungry girl with no substance. Men tire of that, no matter how sexy you think you are. No man wants to be solely responsible for someone that is not his wife or children. It becomes more hassle than it's worth to him.

Secondly, a hookers mindset IS very different from an SB. A hooker is used to immediate gratification with little effort or upkeep of the relationship. An SB needs to put in a little more time, effort, as well as patience. She needs to maintain the relationship and keep his interest. This is a relationship not a transaction. Being a successful Sugarbaby is not as easy as one might think.

Making the transition from SB to escort is a bit tough for me as I abhor the transactional mindset. I'm only comfortable having minimal clients, and I can't help but try to form friendships with each of them. After a session when I text or email just to converse, these clients tend to get a little weirded out. They are not used to an escort striking up conversations that does not revolve around a session. Some actually prefer the transactional approach and do not want to form any attachments.

I'm used to having long term arrangements with only one or 2 gentlemen(long term meaning over one year) , but they are never my sole income as I also have a career. At the moment I'm currently unattached and seeking new *friends* until something ongoing develops.

-a former Sugarbaby
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Old 06-16-2015, 09:52 AM   #401
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Call me crazy , but I actually have to agree with *some* of GotYour6's points here.

If you are in an SD/SB relationship and said SD is your only source of income, it will not work longer than a few months. Definitely not at least a year. Reason being, the SD does eventually get bored especially if the SB is not showing any kind of aspirations or goals for herself. After the newness of the sex wears off, all that left is a money hungry girl with no substance. Men tire of that, no matter how sexy you think you are. No man wants to be solely responsible for someone that is not his wife or children. It becomes more hassle than it's worth to him.

Secondly, a hookers mindset IS very different from an SB. A hooker is used to immediate gratification with little effort or upkeep of the relationship. It's no big deal if Joe doesn't call her again because she has Matt tmrw and Gary the day after that. However, an SB needs to put in a little more time, effort, as well as patience. She needs to maintain the relationship and keep his interest. This is a relationship not a transaction. Being a successful Sugarbaby is not as easy as one might think. It is stressful to put all your eggs in one basket as the SD can suddenly decide to end things at any moment and the sugarbaby is stuck like chuck. This is why this arrangement works better if the SB is in school or has a career in addition to the SD. Being an escort is definitely much easier than being a Sugarbaby but if you're willing to put in the time and effort, the long term rewards of being a Sugarbaby are worth it.

Making the transition from SB to escort has proven a bit tough for me as I abhor the transactional mindset. I'm only comfortable having minimal clients, and I can't help but try to form friendships with each of them. After a session when I text or email just to converse, these clients tend to get a little weirded out. They are not used to an escort striking up conversations that does not revolve around a session. Some actually prefer the transactional approach and do not want to form any attachments. Obviously,this is why they go to escorts and not a Sugarbaby. I'm still learning to adjust to that, but I'm not the best at p4p.

I'm used to having long term arrangements with only one or 2 gentlemen(long term meaning over one year) , but they are never my sole income as I also have a career. At the moment I'm currently unattached and seeking new *friends* until something ongoing develops.

-a former Sugarbaby

I would love to have a "friendship" like that!!! You need to move to Iowa!!
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Old 06-16-2015, 10:44 AM   #402
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I'm used to having long term arrangements with only one or 2 gentlemen(long term meaning over one year) , but they are never my sole income as I also have a career. At the moment I'm currently unattached and seeking new *friends* until something ongoing develops.

-a former Sugarbaby
Send a clone to Houston please! I'm of the mindset that you train a service provider (of any kind) to your likes and dislikes so that once established, you have perfect service for as long as you use them. Barbers, hair stylists, restaurant owners, waitresses, bartenders, casinos, and....I'm new here, but why not an escort?

Wherever I go, if I've had a good experience there before, I try to replicate it with the same people.

As for your clients being weirded out by you talking to them / texting them - I think that's something you're going to have to feel out during your sessions. Gauge what you're talking about, what questions get asked, what his marital or personal status is...ask what he likes, and what you can do for him - and if he's looking for a "favorite" beyond a single transactional session, I think you'll be able to figure it out.
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I think its really wise to remember that regardless of whether one meets a man as an SD or client at the end of the day he is still a man with needs, desires, expectations and a complex personality. The human quality is vital that a woman brings with her, the ability to really connect deeply with a man regardless of whether he is a client or SD. I think that our planet really lacks love and understanding and so many men are hungry for this quality along with feminine touch that only a woman can bring so its very crucial to offer a loving space for a guy to feel safe exploring his emotions and fantasies with you.
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I think its really wise to remember that regardless of whether one meets a man as an SD or client at the end of the day he is still a man with needs, desires, expectations and a complex personality. The human quality is vital that a woman brings with her, the ability to really connect deeply with a man regardless of whether he is a client or SD. I think that our planet really lacks love and understanding and so many men are hungry for this quality along with feminine touch that only a woman can bring so its very crucial to offer a loving space for a guy to feel safe exploring his emotions and fantasies with you.
Excellent words. And you capture the essence of what too many do not see. It is not the label that matters, it is the perceptivenes and willingness to work towards a shared mutually positive experience/relationship.

Too many fixate on what does or doesn't happen when the two are apart instead of looking at how they complement each other's needs.

Mistress, SB, courtesan. Probably half a dozen different terms. There are not hard boundaries between them and how two people instantiate any one of those abstract terms can be noticeably different from how two others do--and both can be "correct".
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I think its really wise to remember that regardless of whether one meets a man as an SD or client at the end of the day he is still a man with needs, desires, expectations and a complex personality. The human quality is vital that a woman brings with her, the ability to really connect deeply with a man regardless of whether he is a client or SD. I think that our planet really lacks love and understanding and so many men are hungry for this quality along with feminine touch that only a woman can bring so its very crucial to offer a loving space for a guy to feel safe exploring his emotions and fantasies with you.
Very true, Sitari!

I also wanted to note that being a Sugarbaby requires quite a bit of thick skin. A Sugarbaby will always come second regardless of her skills in the bedroom. It can be very lonely as conventional dating while in a SB/SD arrangement is pretty much impossible. You need to be available at your SD's beck and call and how do u explain to a boyfriend where youre suddenly off to at midnight or where are the photos of you and your "girlfriends" that you said you were with in Mexico last wknd? And he will want to know where did those diamond earrings and new Chanel purse come from? They eventually figure out something isn't right and so conventional relationships don't work out while you're dating an SD. Meanwhile, the SD gets a wife, a family, and you...
He is the master and you are the puppet.

Hence, the allure of a call girl. You make your own schedule, and you are at no ones beck and call. You are in charge of these interludes and decide who, when, what, where, how much...
In this case, you are the master and the client is the puppet.

Just a realistic view from someone who's been on both sides!
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