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11-22-2015, 04:48 PM
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#376
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Now do you want to admit you're full of shit on the refugee subject or do you want to start a new rabbit trail?
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How so LL? I'm not worried about some Syrian refugees like you and others seem to be. What part am i full of shit about. That Obama is legally using a law instituted in 1980 ? This is the first I've heard you bitching about a President using it. Why didn't you have a problem with it in say 2007 when Bush was allowing Iraqis? You're rather partisan aren't ya?
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11-22-2015, 07:49 PM
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This refugee crap is BULLSHIT! We should help those who helped us!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...d=ss_tw-bottom
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By Dane Bowker September 17
Dane Bowker served two tours in Afghanistan working with the Afghan National Army and Afghan Local Police as a Department of Defense civil servant.
Last week, President Obama decided to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees to the United States. But there’s another group of foreigners who deserve our help much more – the 50,000 men and women who served as interpreters for American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
During my two deployments, I worked with countless interpreters. They were essential to my work and served at great personal risk. Interpreters are routinely killed by insurgents because they’re aiding the United States. One man I worked with was targeted by attackers who knew what car he drove and where he lived. While on the job, my interpreter’s brother took his car to town. Insurgents fired a rocket-propelled grenade at the vehicle, killing his brother and wounding his father.
Because of such dangers, many interpreters seek asylum in the United States. But while American government officials say they’re doing everything they can to bring the interpreters to safety, the State Department is chronically behind in processing their Special Immigrant Visa applications. (The SIV process is based on the process for refugee asylum but tailored specifically for individuals experiencing danger and threats tied to their service for the United States.) Just three visas were issued to Afghan translators in 2011; only 63 were given in 2012. Though Secretary of State John F. Kerry overhauled the system (the State Department processed 3,441 visas in 2014), officials estimate that there are thousands of men and women stranded at various points in the process.
The program is so complex, opaque and dysfunctional that I, as a native English speaker and child of the Defense Department, can barely make sense of it. Applicants are given little information regarding the status of their application. What is passed along by the State Department is cloaked in bureaucratic language. In one instance, I tried to help one of my interpreters fill out one of the several required forms. Even I could not understand what information the State Department wanted, nor the person who was supposed to fill out the form. Was it the applicant or the sponsor? There is no help line, “how to” page or instruction form designed for a non-native English speaker. The process is akin to filing your own taxes in a foreign language with no accountant to help.
If they successfully submit their application package, interpreters routinely wait a year before they know whether they can come to the United States. It is not uncommon for applicants to wait 14 to 18 months. One of my interpreters filed an application at least three times and was denied each time (after waiting 8 to 14 months) because of “improper paperwork.” No suggestions, critiques or help was offered. Furthermore, applicants must remain in Afghanistan while they wait, even though they are applying because they are in danger.
My last and best interpreter spent almost a year and a half by my side. He participated in the same patrols, spoke with the same elders, chastised the same police and faced the same enemy day after day. He survived numerous firefights, rocket attacks and close calls. He was present at every meeting I had with key Afghans and was instrumental in negotiating the establishment of several key checkpoints in Taliban-dominated terrain. He also interpreted while our team interviewed detainees who provided valuable information.
My interpreter applied for his visa in early 2015 and had his interview scheduled for the summer of this year. He was nervous but also prepared. He speaks almost flawless English. The woman who interviewed him, however, did not seem to understand who my interpreter was. She questioned him repeatedly about what office he was currently working in, stating that she was confused and that he was not providing enough information. She didn’t seem to know that my interpreter’s office at the International Security Assistance Force headquarters shares a wall with the embassy where she sat.
After the interview, my interpreter received a letter from the State Department stating that his application was undergoing “additional administrative processing” with no timeline or update to his status. His application was cleared for “administrative processing” only after my congressman became personally involved. My interpreter is still in Afghanistan undergoing the final, bureaucratic necessities. I still don’t know when he’ll arrive in the United States.
This is not as it should be. Before we bring 10,000 refugees to the United States, we must fulfill our responsibility to the Afghan and Iraqi interpreters who performed real, substantive and heroic service to America. I and many people I hold dear are alive today because of their work. The United States should be ashamed of itself for the way it has allowed the State Department to wallow in its own negligence.
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11-22-2015, 10:29 PM
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#378
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He should train them. After all he created them.
Jim
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11-22-2015, 10:47 PM
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#379
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Incredible. But then again, Obama hung the Pakistani Doctor who identified the children inside the bin Laden's compound as bin Laden's out to dry. He should have definitely have been given refugee status. Now he's rotting in prison for helping the US. Thanks, Obama!
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11-22-2015, 10:58 PM
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#380
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And you're my favorite cocksucker...what's your point?
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Rule #7 when arguing with WTF. Homosexual reference equals WTF's acknowledgement of defeat.
This is what I'm talking about :
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Why don't we take this off board and you pm me if you think you are big enough to shove anything in my mouth.
I never said I audio recorded anything. I said it is legal and i said if i were a provider, i would audio record. If i were into role play , i would audio record the provider agreeing to that bs.
I damn sure will record me cleaning out your fucking ears if you are stupid enough to try and shove anything in my mouth
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PM sent. The balls in your court.
remember you asked for this
That's what I thought... chicken Shit!
Topic: don't record only chicken shits record and that's yucky
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WTF hasn't responded on the board. Pyro is still posting.
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11-22-2015, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
Rule #7 when arguing with WTF. Homosexual reference equals WTF's acknowledgement of defeat.
This is what I'm talking about:
WTF hasn't responded on the board. Pyro is still posting.
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I said you're my favorite...what's your point? I'm still posting, he is still posting.
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11-22-2015, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
Incredible. But then again, Obama hung the Pakistani Doctor who identified the children inside the bin Laden's compound as bin Laden's out to dry. He should have definitely have been given refugee status. Now he's rotting in prison for helping the US. Thanks, Obama!
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It's a whole fucking pattern of behavior on his part. When he pulled all US forces out of Iraq in 2011, it meant all those Sunni tribal chiefs and others who cooperated with us in making the 2007 surge in Anbar Province a success were suddenly left to fend for themselves. Now most of them are dead. The message? That's what happens when you cast your lot with the US. Thanks, Obama!
And don't forget the Free Syrian Army. Odumbo strung them and other would-be Syrian moderates out for YEARS with false promises of assistance. They waited and waited. He never delivered. Instead, he left them to be ground up mercilessly by Assad, al Nusra, ISIS, and now the Russians - who have been bombing the fuck out of them to reinforce the message that relying on the US is the kiss of death. Thanks, Obama!
Most Americans aren't paying attention to how profoundly Odumbo has betrayed our friends, enabled our adversaries, and destroyed our credibility throughout the Middle East. It will literally take decades for us to restore our influence there - if we can. Thanks, Obama!
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11-23-2015, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
It's a whole fucking pattern of behavior on his part. When he pulled all US forces out of Iraq in 2011, it meant all those Sunni tribal chiefs and others who cooperated with us in making the 2007 surge in Anbar Province a success were suddenly left to fend for themselves. Now most of them are dead. The message? That's what happens when you cast your lot with the US. Thanks, Obama!
And don't forget the Free Syrian Army. Odumbo strung them and other would-be Syrian moderates out for YEARS with false promises of assistance. They waited and waited. He never delivered. Instead, he left them to be ground up mercilessly by Assad, al Nusra, ISIS, and now the Russians - who have been bombing the fuck out of them to reinforce the message that relying on the US is the kiss of death. Thanks, Obama!
Most Americans aren't paying attention to how profoundly Odumbo has betrayed our friends, enabled our adversaries, and destroyed our credibility throughout the Middle East. It will literally take decades for us to restore our influence there - if we can. Thanks, Obama!
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and yet asshole licker, whose so-called people are the most betrayed of all in the middle east, worships at the shrine of obama? why is that assup?
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11-23-2015, 02:25 AM
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#384
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Originally Posted by gnadfly
Rule #7 when arguing with WTF. Homosexual reference equals WTF's acknowledgement of defeat.
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Along with erroneously rephrasing someone's post after something like ...
.. "So you are saying" ______________________________ __
.. or just changing the subject through morphing the conversation.
But HIS BOSS OBAMINABLE DOES THE SAME! So we know where WTF got it.
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11-23-2015, 06:14 AM
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#385
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Along with erroneously rephrasing someone's post after something like ...
.. "So you are saying" ______________________________ __
.. or just changing the subject through morphing the conversation.
But HIS BOSS OBAMINABLE DOES THE SAME! So we know where WTF got it.
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Originally Posted by WTF
I do not work for Obama.
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Of course you do. You voted for him didn't you?
Boy, boy , boy....if this ain't the stupidest shit ever posted! You work for who you vote for!
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11-23-2015, 07:16 AM
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More WTF off-topic rabbit trails ....
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... a yellow rabbit ... how fitting!
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11-23-2015, 07:37 AM
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The Idiot Jihad continues. Are we headed for an Idiot Spring?
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11-23-2015, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
and yet asshole licker, whose so-called people are the most betrayed of all in the middle east, worships at the shrine of obama? why is that assup?
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You make no sense, WaKKKo.
But I guess you're doing your best to stay in the game. How are you not banned anyway, Dickwad?
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11-23-2015, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB
This refugee crap is BULLSHIT! We should help those who helped us!
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The Mexicans?
You're a fine American IOTY. And an oasis of love in a hateful world. Jesus would be proud.
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11-23-2015, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WTF
I do not work for Obama.
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Of course you do. You voted for him didn't you?
Boy, boy , boy....if this ain't the stupidest shit ever posted! You work for who you vote for!
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