Bye Bye America !

[nickladude]

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[bigguyt]

Michigan is not red in this picture. You guys cant draw a simple map, This is 5th grader stuff. This is why we cant ever let you run our country again. The sensible democrats that are left should break away and start their own party.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by bigguyt

Michigan is not red in this picture. You guys cant draw a simple map, This is 5th grader stuff. This is why we cant ever let you run our country again. The sensible democrats that are left should break away and start their own party.

Maybe Nickladude should ask Jerry Brown if he spent all his infrastructure money on illegal immigrants instead of fixing the damn. Talk about a dumb fuck.

[lustylad]

Hey Nickladude, what's your t-shirt size?

[lustylad]

Coffee mugs are on sale too!

[nickladude]

Ask your wife haha

[snakebit]

Lusty, get him a pink one so he can march in the womens protest parade

[snoopy75]

Why is it that every time I see this thread mentioned this is all I can think of?

[shambala]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

People are protesting to save our country from fascism the same way people protested the rise of Hitler. You have a choice to be on the right or wrong side of history, will you support the rise of another Hitler or protest against the evil of fascism!...

Too late. Fascism came to America a long time ago via FDR. FDR was an admirer of Mussolini. From Anthony Gregory's America's Unique Fascism:

https://mises.org/library/americas-unique-fascism

In specific, FDR's National Recovery Administration was fashioned after the industrial policy of Mussolini. Flynn explains:

[Mussolini] organized each trade or industrial group or professional group into a state-supervised trade association. He called it a corporative. These corporatives operated under state supervision and could plan production, quality, prices, distribution, labor standards, etc. The NRA provided that in America each industry should be organized into a federally supervised trade association. It was not called a corporative. It was called a Code Authority. But it was essentially the same thing. These code authorities could regulate production, quantities, qualities, prices, distribution methods, etc., under the supervision of the NRA. This was fascism.

Such an analysis of the New Deal as fascism is not only found in the Old Right or their libertarian successors. Historian Thaddeus Russell's great chapter "Behold a Dictator: Fascism and the New Deal" in his new book A Renegade History of the United States comes from a leftist perspective and arrives at much the same conclusions. Many of the greatest progressive intellectuals and business elites of Roosevelt's time were especially enamored of Mussolini's regime. "The men who made the New Deal were driven by dreams of a machine like society, in which all members, from the leaders of government to the lowliest workers, would be parts designed, built, and employed entirely for their function within the whole apparatus..."

[shambala]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

Bambino I expected more from you! If you remember we were attacked first and it was a war, that's much different than killing your own people and journalist, you should be ashamed for comparing America to Russia!

You don't know much about history. You don't know much of anything. Bambino tried to educate you. It's sad that you have a closed mind and cannot learn. The US baited Japan into making a major attack so that FDR could have his war. The people that died at Pearl Harbor were murdered by FDR. The US froze Japanese assets & denied them oil that they need and when they wanted to meet with leaders in Washington, they were refused.

From the Amazon page for:
Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor by Robert Stinnett

"Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisers knew that Japanese warships were heading toward Hawaii. The heart of his argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack. The plan was outlined in a U.S. Naval Intelligence secret strategy memo of October 1940; Roosevelt immediately began implementing its eight steps (which included deploying U.S. warships in Japanese territorial waters and imposing a total embargo intended to strangle Japan's economy), all of which, according to Stinnett, climaxed in the Japanese attack. Stinnett, a decorated naval veteran of WWII who served under then Lt. George Bush, substantiates his charges with a wealth of persuasive documents, including many government and military memos and transcripts. Demolishing the myth that the Japanese fleet maintained strict radio silence, he shows that several Japanese naval broadcasts, intercepted by American cryptographers in the 10 days before December 7, confirmed that Japan intended to start the war at Pearl Harbor. Stinnett convincingly demonstrates that the U.S. top brass in Hawaii--Pacific Fleet commander Adm. Husband Kimmel and Lt. Gen. Walter Short--were kept out of the intelligence loop on orders from Washington and were then scapegoated for allegedly failing to anticipate the Japanese attack (in May 1999, the U.S. Senate cleared their names)."

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

Bambino you get very testy when your forced to defend something that is not defendable. The USA pre Trump does not murder people to make themselves more powerful as Putin does. If we are forced to war it is done to save people from being persecuted. The closest we came in my opinion to crossing that line was with the last Trump like person we had in office in Dick Cheney. The United States is until this point not like Russia although Trump would like us to be...

If you do any research you will find that for the last hundred years, the US has been assassinating world leaders, over-throwing governments, interfering in elections, etc. Start with the Dole Food Company & the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy. Then research British Petroleum, the CIA & 1953 Iranian Coup. Look into where the US gov't gets involved & you'll usually find that it's to protect oil interests or other interests for big business. You should listen to Bambino more, maybe you'll learn something.

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by shambala

You don't know much about history. You don't know much of anything. Bambino tried to educate you. It's sad that you have a closed mind and cannot learn. The US baited Japan into making a major attack so that FDR could have his war. The people that died at Pearl Harbor were murdered by FDR. The US froze Japanese assets & denied them oil that they need and when they wanted to meet with leaders in Washington, they were refused.

From the Amazon page for:
Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor by Robert Stinnett

"Stinnett provides overwhelming evidence that FDR and his top advisers knew that Japanese warships were heading toward Hawaii. The heart of his argument is even more inflammatory: Stinnett argues that FDR, who desired to sway public opinion in support of U.S. entry into WWII, instigated a policy intended to provoke a Japanese attack. The plan was outlined in a U.S. Naval Intelligence secret strategy memo of October 1940; Roosevelt immediately began implementing its eight steps (which included deploying U.S. warships in Japanese territorial waters and imposing a total embargo intended to strangle Japan's economy), all of which, according to Stinnett, climaxed in the Japanese attack. Stinnett, a decorated naval veteran of WWII who served under then Lt. George Bush, substantiates his charges with a wealth of persuasive documents, including many government and military memos and transcripts. Demolishing the myth that the Japanese fleet maintained strict radio silence, he shows that several Japanese naval broadcasts, intercepted by American cryptographers in the 10 days before December 7, confirmed that Japan intended to start the war at Pearl Harbor. Stinnett convincingly demonstrates that the U.S. top brass in Hawaii--Pacific Fleet commander Adm. Husband Kimmel and Lt. Gen. Walter Short--were kept out of the intelligence loop on orders from Washington and were then scapegoated for allegedly failing to anticipate the Japanese attack (in May 1999, the U.S. Senate cleared their names)."



If you do any research you will find that for the last hundred years, the US has been assassinating world leaders, over-throwing governments, interfering in elections, etc. Start with the Dole Food Company & the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy. Then research British Petroleum, the CIA & 1953 Iranian Coup. Look into where the US gov't gets involved & you'll usually find that it's to protect oil interests or other interests for big business. You should listen to Bambino more, maybe you'll learn something.

Your talking about someone's conspiracy theory, there are books about Bigfoot so I guess that's true too? While I know we have forced regime change and killed brutal dictators, we do not like Russia take over countries we are not wanted in, we do not murder journalists or politicians we don't agree with, we are not a dictatorship. Bambino is one sided and ignorant of the world outside of Fox News which is bias, his thoughts are those of a typical redneck conservative. I don't say that in a mean way, it's just calling the kettle black.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

Your talking about someone's conspiracy theory, there are books about Bigfoot so I guess that's true too? While I know we have forced regime change and killed brutal dictators, we do not like Russia take over countries we are not wanted in, we do not murder journalists or politicians we don't agree with, we are not a dictatorship. Bambino is one sided and ignorant of the world outside of Fox News which is bias, his thoughts are those of a typical redneck conservative. I don't say that in a mean way, it's just calling the kettle black.

Hey numnuts, who killed JFK?

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by bambino

Hey numnuts, who killed JFK?

Texas Oil Men

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

Texas Oil Men

The assassination of Kennedy allowed the oil depletion allowance to be kept at 27.5 per cent. It remained unchanged during the Johnson presidency. This resulted in a saving of over 100 million dollars to the American oil industry. Soon after Johnson left office it dropped to 15 per cent.

[shambala]

Originally Posted by StandinStraight

Your talking about someone's conspiracy theory, there are books about Bigfoot so I guess that's true too? While I know we have forced regime change and killed brutal dictators, we do not like Russia take over countries we are not wanted in, we do not murder journalists or politicians we don't agree with, we are not a dictatorship. Bambino is one sided and ignorant of the world outside of Fox News which is bias, his thoughts are those of a typical redneck conservative. I don't say that in a mean way, it's just calling the kettle black.

That's more then just someone's conspiracy theory. There's more information out there, but I guess it was too much for you to look into & research on your own. Just dismiss it because it doesn't fit the narrow minded limits of your brain.

You're the epitome of the low IQ low information voter that politicians love. They can tell you anything & you believe it because you can't think or reason for yourself. The government does murder journalists & politicians. Research! Just look into the Clintons. There are a lot of suspicious deaths surrounding them. Friends of Bill & Hill get killed. But I know you'll just cry, "conspiracy theory", which is code for, "eww this is too difficult for me to research and have to think on my own".

btw, congratulations on spelling 'conspiracy'. That's a big word for you to spell and you nailed it. You must have learned to use spell-check or you got a ghost writer to help you.