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Originally Posted by Chung Tran
of course.
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And he shouldn't have shut down America. At least not for an entire month after his initial two weeks. That was Trump's biggest mistake.
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it has been 2 decades for me.. and?
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I'm saying vaccinations are utterly pointless. Having a hard time following me there, Chung?
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that is not my argument, it's you trying to ascribe thoughts to me. I don't even say Biden is better.
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Except you were. When you mouth off constantly about numbers and who is supporting whom, quoting largely debunked stories and other left wing talking points, is it any wonder you're kissing Biden's dementia ass? Now you're trying to backpedal that because you're too gutless as you've been called out again. "Well, I didn't SAY I support Biden!!!!" SAD.
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I'm saying you are in an extreme minority that believes a vaccine is worthless.
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It is. Just like how the flu mutates, so will covid-19.
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Trump and every Leader in the advanced World desires a vaccine, because they think it will reduce illness and death.
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Trump shouldn't be listening to any of the world leaders. Have you forgotten that it was the fucking WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that lied about how Covid spread? And that they've been kissing China's ass? At this point, I'd rather listen to some crackpot than some dipshit "leader."
If you're supporting Trump because he's following other leaders, it's the other leaders you're supporting, not Trump.
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you scoff at all of them. too bad they aren't as smart as you, and are wasting time, energy and money chasing a bullshit vaccine.
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Another Chung argument "But more people seem to think differently from you, so maybe you're wrong!" lol. SAD! Yes, a vaccine IS a waste of time and energy. Why not focus on figuring out ways to treat the symptoms of covid? Have you forgotten about Hydroxy? Zpacs?
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see what you are doing? you ask me a question, then assume my answer.. then label me "gullible".
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Gullible? Yes, you are. Very, very much so. Seeing as how you've believed everything Trump is a "lie" and didn't even think to consider the context, you are very damn gullible. Don't try to shy away from it.
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I agree.. I'm the one who bitched about Trump picking winners and losers.. Wal-Mart and Home Depot, and Amazon, while local small business got fucked. you are following what I said earlier.
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Er... I've been saying this since like.. day 1 of the lockdown. So, welcome to 5 month ago Aoi? ?_?
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partially agree.. the initial "shutdown".. by the way, there never was a shut down.
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You can argue semantics, but the end result is, an overwhelming amount of America got fucked. So, shut down, partial shut down. I don't care. Trump fucked up. The timeline was.. day 0 - social distancing rules. day 1 - okay, shut it down (or at best, partially)
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most business remained open, albeit in reduced form..
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No, "essential" businesses remained open with reduced form. I can name a bunch of stores along HH that shut down. Pretty sure you know em.
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the initial response should have been 15 days of bending the curve, then put reasonable measure in place, like we have. I disagree that NO measures should be in place, but 15 days would have accomplished much.
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15 days was, at best, forgivable. Anything after, Trumped listened to the wrong person - Fauci.
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Trump did the wrong thing when you think he did the right thing.
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Trump did the wrong thing when he extended his idiotic order to the end of April. If you think that's right, you should take a look at that unemployment and businesses which never recovered it. If there was ever a reason for me not to vote for Trump, shutting down the country for an additional 30 days would be no. 1 reason.
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he basically decided the virus wasn't worth his effort, handed it off to the States, pretended the virus had withered away, or was about to. that is not a proper response.
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Because at the end of April, when he removed his hand, the curve had flattened, cases were lower than before and even NY wasn't as pathetic as it was prior.
But again, this was moot because it still came back.
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Trump had knowledge of Corona virus cases in mid-January.
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He had knowledge of the virus, but not that it was the "catastrophic" pandemic that it would later reveal to be in February. You're forgetting that China had kept the lid shut on the virus for a damn long time and outside of maybe some independent content creators on Youtube and other alt news sites, covid was barely a thing. You cannot take extreme action based on such minute intel.
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Peter Navarro warned him in late January that this was going to be a major problem.
I gave Trump slack, and only said he was 2 weeks late.
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The "scientists" and "experts" all said the virus wasn't transferred from persons to persons. The WHO organization said the virus wasn't a big deal. The leading epidemiologist, Fauci, said it wasn't a big deal. Nobody can see the future. They can guess it.
So, yeah. Trump "listened to the science"
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Europe already had cases, so the China shutdown turned out to be worthless, besides the fact that 40,000 were exempt.
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He banned Europe and China within relative close proximity. Also, if you're going to block a virus that originated in.. you know... China, blocking travel from there might not be a bad first step. The 40000, btw, were not travelers from China but come back from China.
It's really amusing, Chung. You're putting it all on Trump right now, but I have yet to see you criticize Cuomo for how he handled the virus in NY. Or how Whitmire is de facto dictator. As is Newsom. Why don't I hear you complaining about the protests?
You act like Trump runs the entire government... he doesn't.
Again, Chung. Learn your how states work.
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you are falling back on your same bullshit of ascribing.. I don't get my information from TV
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You literally quote CNN. Multiple times.
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but you refuse to admit that, and will keep saying I'm a CNN Pawn
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You. literally. quote. CNN.
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because you have no other explanation why a guy who voted for Trump (and Romney before him)
could be criticizing him as I have.
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I do have the perfect explanation.
In fact, so has Texassapper, Equipeeler and others who have repeatedly corrected your ass about this. And you're STILL playing the victim. Are you ever going to address any of those? Or are you still bitching about those awful right wingers? Pathetic and lacking in thought, Chung.
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where do you get your information? you are farther to the right than Genghis Khan.
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C-span (I watch the actual interviews)
Timpool
Styxhexenhammer
Kim Iverson
And like... yes, I am more to the right than Khan.. Like... you do know where I'm from, right?
Btw, if you've actually studied some of his policies, he was actually fairly progressive in how he governed. The biggest thing he pushed for was freedom of religion.