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Old 01-10-2011, 02:51 PM   #301
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my all-time favorite: The Negotiator

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Old 01-12-2011, 07:04 PM   #302
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Once Upon a Time in America. It has everything.

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Picnic at Hanging Rock. Most erotic film ever with clothes on and no action. I love the drunk headmistresses 'we are not a charity' line. Music is a feature. His later Walkabout had a nice view of Jenny Agutter.

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Old 01-13-2011, 12:45 PM   #303
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:07 PM   #304
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I win...........

Jeff Bridges is the man......
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Old 01-13-2011, 02:12 PM   #305
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Jeff Bridges is the man......
I'm with you, Dude.

One of the best movies ever.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:17 PM   #306
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I saw True Grit lately, both on DVD for the old version and at the movie for the new version.

I've always thought that music played an important part of a movie. Movies like Bagger Vance, Glory, and Rudy come to mind where music really made the story complete. The music in the old TG movie blew away the modern version. One scene where music is so important is when late in the movie, Rooster is racing to save the girl after being bit by a rattler. The original music was very moving and you could see where Rooster cared to save the girl. On the new version, for basically the same scene, the music was not there, and therefore the scene wasn't nearly as dramatic. You could tell that Bridges cared, but because a lack of quality music, the scene was far less dramatic and far less moving.

John Wayne is an iconic movie star and some feel the TG was his iconic role. Poor Jeff Bridges, who is one of my favorite actors, just couldn't beat out the Duke. Great try, but the Duke is 'THE DUKE'. If the new version was the only version, I could buy Bridges as Rooster, but it's not.

Kim Darby was very good as the girl, but Hailee Steinfeld was so much better in the new version.

Glen Campbell was a joke as the Texas Ranger, while Matt Damon carried the role far better. Campbell was a singer, Damon is an actor, and it showed.

Barry Pepper/Robert Duvall both were good so I call a draw here. Josh Brolin was a far better Tom Chaney versus the original.

The ending was completely different and many points go to the original ending, the new version was not even close. As a matter of fact I hated the new ending, no matter that the new ending was by the book.

Like The Longest Yard, the remakes of these iconic movies are very difficult to do. Both TLY and TG have things about both movies that the new versions also shine, but at the end of the day, it's hard to beat an original, when the original is a great movie.
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Old 01-15-2011, 03:39 PM   #307
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:28 PM   #308
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:55 PM   #309
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The Big labowski, Snatch, GodFather pt.2, the Notebook...lol j/k!
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Vivien Theodore Thomas (August 29, 1910 – November 26, 1985) was an African-American surgical technician who developed the procedures used to treat blue baby syndrome in the 1940s. He was an assistant to surgeon Alfred Blalock in Blalock's experimental animal laboratory at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee and later at the Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. Without any education past high school, Thomas rose above poverty and racism to become a cardiac surgery pioneer and a teacher of operative techniques to many of the country's most prominent surgeons. Vivien Thomas was the first African American without a doctorate degree to perform open heart surgery on a white patient in the United States.
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:30 PM   #311
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I saw True Grit lately, both on DVD for the old version and at the movie for the new version.

I've always thought that music played an important part of a movie. Movies like Bagger Vance, Glory, and Rudy come to mind where music really made the story complete. The music in the old TG movie blew away the modern version. One scene where music is so important is when late in the movie, Rooster is racing to save the girl after being bit by a rattler. The original music was very moving and you could see where Rooster cared to save the girl. On the new version, for basically the same scene, the music was not there, and therefore the scene wasn't nearly as dramatic. You could tell that Bridges cared, but because a lack of quality music, the scene was far less dramatic and far less moving.

John Wayne is an iconic movie star and some feel the TG was his iconic role. Poor Jeff Bridges, who is one of my favorite actors, just couldn't beat out the Duke. Great try, but the Duke is 'THE DUKE'. If the new version was the only version, I could buy Bridges as Rooster, but it's not.

Kim Darby was very good as the girl, but Hailee Steinfeld was so much better in the new version.

Glen Campbell was a joke as the Texas Ranger, while Matt Damon carried the role far better. Campbell was a singer, Damon is an actor, and it showed.

Barry Pepper/Robert Duvall both were good so I call a draw here. Josh Brolin was a far better Tom Chaney versus the original.

The ending was completely different and many points go to the original ending, the new version was not even close. As a matter of fact I hated the new ending, no matter that the new ending was by the book.

Like The Longest Yard, the remakes of these iconic movies are very difficult to do. Both TLY and TG have things about both movies that the new versions also shine, but at the end of the day, it's hard to beat an original, when the original is a great movie.
I'd say that was a fair analysis of the two movies DJ. Especially regarding the music part.

In my opinion John Bernard Books was John Wayne's finest and most iconic role as it was a chronicle of his own life in a way.

I have to agree with you though about Bridges' role. He did a fine job and it would be a much more memorable role if The Duke hadn't played it first. There are parts that I actually thought Bridges did better like when he tells the dude in the cabin "I can't help you son". There was just a dark edge to that scene that Bridges nailed and and it seemed that when the Duke said it he was just repeating the lines.

I guess all in all there was more feeling from Bridges' character even if it was more sinister at times.


The things that stood out for me in the remake were the dialogue, the cinematography and the sets.

Hailee Steinfeld was great even if the character itself is a little over the top. I was really impressed with her horsemanship.

I always thought Glen Campbell was a joke as an actor also but after watching the remake I've changed my perspective on that a little. Matt Damon did a great job and was more believable than Campbell by far, but after watching both movies I've come to the conclusion that "LaBeef" was intended to be a bufoon in a way and if you look at it from that perspective maybe Campbell didn't do such a bad job afterall.

Finally, the original gave you some closure on the whole event that the remake didn't.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:52 PM   #312
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Young Frankenstein:


"How would you like a roll in the hay?"

What's Up Doc?


"Don't you know the meaning of propriety?"

Monty Python & the Holy Grail:


"Right, we'll call it a draw!"
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Old 01-22-2011, 06:48 AM   #313
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:53 AM   #314
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Boardman and DJ thanks for a couple of great posts, watched the Duke's version of True Grit again a few days before seeing the latest version and both of your comments are insightful.

The snake bite scene distills the two films for me, the only grit is in the remake. DJ is right about the music making the film, but taken out of time Jeff Bridges' performance is better. Hailee Steinfeld simply blew me away, wasn't expecting that always liked the obvious irony of the real true grit being in Matty Ross. We see her though the lens of modern culture not the reality of the 1870's.

The original iconic True Grit is so much a part of my life, when I first saw it rocked me and how it affected my perception of right and wrong. Even in the 1969 version this wasn't Saturday afternoon westerns, it was real and it had grit. The handsome Glen Cambell didn't get the girl, all the 'good guys' didn't live and reading the book a few weeks or months after seeing the film as a boy, colored my perception of it quite a bit darker.

The remake is the better film, but will never replace the original because it is so much a part of my adolescence. Our generation wanted to grow up and be John Wayne, I'm lucky enough to know someone that did.

Mattie Ross: They say he has grit. I wanted a man with grit.
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