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Old 11-26-2021, 05:21 PM   #3061
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Hmmmm... What is "large-scale" and "wide-spread" voter fraud??

Is that similar to "Sorta-but not really" voter fraud?
And "surely mighta been"?

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It would be nickel dime issues when you are working with $ 100 bills.


It would be insignificant vs. significant.


It would be peanuts.


It would be 1,000 fraudulent votes found when the winning margin was 15,000 votes.


It would be a speck of dust on a windshield vs. a filthy car.


It would be falling out a window from a 1 story building vs. a 20 story building.
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:35 PM   #3062
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And yet - voter fraud is VOTER FRAUD.

Thought you lads didn't believe it. "Where's the proof?"

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Old 11-26-2021, 09:52 PM   #3063
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And yet - voter fraud is VOTER FRAUD.

Thought you lads didn't believe it. "Where's the proof?"

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The difference is the way our voting system is set up it is almost impossible for mass voter fraud.

You find a case here and there...but nothing in the "msss" category.

Similar to the difference between Lightening and a Lightening Bug. They both have Lightening...but massive difference.

Read up the conclusion that Trump's own 2016 commission came up with. No mass voter fraud.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ion-commission


Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt studied voter impersonation, the type of fraud that strict voter ID laws (which Trump supports) aim to curtail. Levitt found 35 total credible accusations between 2000 and 2014, constituting a few hundred ballots at most. During this 15-year period, more than 800 million ballots were cast in national general elections and hundreds of millions more were cast in primary, municipal, special, and other elections.
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The difference is the way our voting system is set up it is almost impossible for mass voter fraud.

You find a case here and there...but nothing in the "msss" category.

Similar to the difference between Lightening and a Lightening Bug. They both have Lightening...but massive difference.

Read up the conclusion that Trump's own 2016 commission came up with. No mass voter fraud.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ion-commission


Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt studied voter impersonation, the type of fraud that strict voter ID laws (which Trump supports) aim to curtail. Levitt found 35 total credible accusations between 2000 and 2014, constituting a few hundred ballots at most. During this 15-year period, more than 800 million ballots were cast in national general elections and hundreds of millions more were cast in primary, municipal, special, and other elections.



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Old 11-26-2021, 10:10 PM   #3065
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Q , is that you?

Please show your evidence of election fraud on a mass scale.

Not the Lightening Bug scale.
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Old 11-26-2021, 10:21 PM   #3066
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Q , is that you?

Please show your evidence of election fraud on a mass scale.

Not the Lightening Bug scale.

it doesn't need to be massive. just enough.

you'll love this source .. sparky ..


https://www.warren.senate.gov/oversi...private-equity


Warren, Klobuchar, Wyden, and Pocan Investigate Vulnerabilities and Shortcomings of Election Technology Industry with Ties to Private Equity

Washington, DC - United States Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), member of the Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee, Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Ranking Member of the Senate Rules Committee, Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Ranking Member of the Senate Finance Committee, and Representative Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), sent letters to three private equity firms -- McCarthy Group, Staple Street Capital Group, and H.I.G. Capital -- that reportedly own or have investments in election technology vendors responsible for developing, manufacturing, and maintaining the vast majority of voting machines and software in the United States. In their letters, the lawmakers raise concerns about vulnerabilities and a lack of transparency in the election technology industry and the poor condition of voting machines and other election technology equipment. They request information about the role private equity investment in these companies have played in creating and perpetuating these conditions.


Election security experts have noted for years that our nation's election systems and infrastructure are under serious threat, but voting machines reportedly continue to fail and breakdown across the country, as vendors fail to innovate, improve, and protect voting systems, putting U.S. elections at avoidable and increased risk.


The three vendors -- Election Systems & Software, Dominion Voting Systems, and Hart InterCivic -- collectively distribute voting machines and software that facilitate voting for over 90% of all eligible voters in the United States. Private equity firms reportedly own or control each of these vendors, which "have long skimped on security in favor of convenience," leaving voting systems across the country "prone to security problems."


These vendors make little to no information publicly available on how much money they dedicate to research and development, or to maintenance of their voting systems and technology. They also share little or no information regarding annual profits or executive compensation for their owners.


"(W)e have concerns about the spread and effect of private equity investment in many sectors of the economy, including the election technology industry--an integral part of our nation's democratic process." wrote the lawmakers in their letters to the firms. "These problems threaten the integrity of our elections and demonstrate the importance of election systems that are strong, durable, and not vulnerable to attack."


Senator Warren and Representative Pocan, along with a number of their Democratic colleagues, introduced the Stop Wall Street Looting Act, a comprehensive bill to reform the private equity industry by holding private equity firms jointly liable for the debts of companies under their control and by requiring greater transparency in private equity firms' practices.


In their latest letters, the lawmakers asked the private equity firms to provide the disclosure documents and information required under the Stop Wall Street Looting Act, and to explain their role in the election technology industry by December 20, 2019.


Senator Warren has been a vocal critic of private equity abuses throughout her time in the Senate and is fighting for reforms that protect students, workers, communities, and investors:


  • Senators Warren, Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) sent letters to two major private equity-owned commercial institutional review boards (IRBs), raising questions about whether for-profit IRBs are vulnerable to conflicts of interest that could inhibit their ability to protect research subjects, and whether the two companies are maintaining appropriate ethics standards.
  • Senators Warren and Brown, along with Representative Pocan, sent letters to four private equity firms that currently invest, or have recently invested in, companies providing nursing home care and other long-term care services, noting research that shows facilities owned by private equity firms provide worse care.
  • Senators Warren, Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), and Sanders, along with Representatives Pocan, and Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), sent a letter to Ernst & Young sharply criticizing a misleading report the firm released in partnership with the American Investment Council, a trade group for the private equity industry, about the scope of private equity's influence in the economy.
  • Senator Warren and Representatives Pocan and Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) wrote to five private equity firms with investments in physician staffing and emergency transport companies, questioning the role these companies play in patients receiving exorbitant surprise bills for out-of-network medical treatment.
  • Senator Warren and Representatives Pocan and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (D-N.Y.) wrote to five private equity firms that own companies providing support services to prisons, including health care, food service, and telephone services, noting how private equity firms deliver poor-quality food and services at exorbitant prices, making huge profits off of incarcerated people, their families, and taxpayers.
  • Senator Warren and Representative Pocan wrote to six private equity firms with current or recent holdings in for-profit colleges, citing research about private equity's destructive role in for-profit colleges and student outcomes.
  • Senator Warren and Representative Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) opened an investigation into private equity firms behind some of the country's largest manufactured housing communities to obtain information about their use of predatory practices to boost profits in the communities they own.
  • Senator Warren and Representative Ocasio-Cortez questioned Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on his involvement in dubious financial engineering and other managerial decisions that enriched investment company executives while decimating Sears' long-term growth and sustainability -- ultimately resulting in Sears' bankruptcy and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs.
  • Senator Warren requested answers from Vornado Realty Trust and five major hedge funds on their role in the liquidation of Toys "R" Us, which resulted in 30,000 workers losing their jobs without severance pay, after the company went into bankruptcy as the result of a leveraged buyout in 2005.
  • In June 2015, Senator Warren was an original co-sponsor of the Carried Interest Fairness Act, legislation to close the carried interest loophole that allowed private equity fund managers to pay lower taxes. The legislation was re-introduced in March 2019 and is included in the Stop Wall Street Looting Act.
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... Now it's the vote scanners not working
properly in Georgia.

Extra ballots brought in over Pennsylvania-way.
Three days of this - until Biden tallyed enough.

More votes than voters in Wisconsin.

The list goes on and on....

And yet... "No voter fraud - No evidence."
We'll see what the liberal claim is in 13 months.

... No bleedin' wonder Republicans are Widely Expected
to rout the Dems in the upcoming elections.

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[*]Senators Warren, Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), and Sanders, along with Representatives Pocan, and Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), sent a letter to Ernst & Young sharply criticizing a misleading report the firm released in partnership with the American Investment Council, a trade group for the private equity industry, about the scope of private equity's influence in the economy.[*]Senator Warren and Representatives Pocan and Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) wrote to five private equity firms with investments in physician staffing and emergency transport companies, questioning the role these companies play in patients receiving exorbitant surprise bills for out-of-network medical treatment.[*]Senator Warren and Representatives Pocan and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (D-N.Y.) wrote to five private equity firms that own companies providing support services to prisons, including health care, food service, and telephone services, noting how private equity firms deliver poor-quality food and services at exorbitant prices, making huge profits off of incarcerated people, their families, and taxpayers.[*]Senator Warren and Representative Pocan wrote to six private equity firms with current or recent holdings in for-profit colleges, citing research about private equity's destructive role in for-profit colleges and student outcomes.[*]Senator Warren and Representative Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) opened an investigation into private equity firms behind some of the country's largest manufactured housing communities to obtain information about their use of predatory practices to boost profits in the communities they own.[*]Senator Warren and Representative Ocasio-Cortez questioned Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on his involvement in dubious financial engineering and other managerial decisions that enriched investment company executives while decimating Sears' long-term growth and sustainability -- ultimately resulting in Sears' bankruptcy and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs.[*]Senator Warren requested answers from Vornado Realty Trust and five major hedge funds on their role in the liquidation of Toys "R" Us, which resulted in 30,000 workers losing their jobs without severance pay, after the company went into bankruptcy as the result of a leveraged buyout in 2005.[*]In June 2015, Senator Warren was an original co-sponsor of the Carried Interest Fairness Act, legislation to close the carried interest loophole that allowed private equity fund managers to pay lower taxes. The legislation was re-introduced in March 2019 and is included in the Stop Wall Street Looting Act.[/LIST]
Your reading comprehension is similar to thinking the Rooster responsible for the Sunrise.
Private Equity Reform , you have convoluted to mass voter fraud. Were you for Warren's bill

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...ion-was-secure

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...ion-was-secure


Federal Agencies
The nation’s top intelligence and law enforcement agencies have confirmed that there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in American elections and that the 2020 election was secure.

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
“We have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it's by mail or otherwise.” – Christopher Wray, FBI Director, September 24, 2020, hearing before the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. (Director Wray was appointed by President Trump in 2017.)
Department of Homeland Security – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)
“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history . . . . There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised . . . While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections . . . we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too.” – Joint Statement by CISA, the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC), and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC), November 12, 2020.
“[Election] Day was quiet. There was no indication or evidence that there was any evidence of hacking or compromise of election systems on, before, or after November 3 . . . . We did a good job. I would do it one thousand times over.” – Chris Krebs, Former Director of CISA, November 29, 2020.
Shortly after releasing the joint statement, Chris Krebs was fired from his position as director of CISA. His firing was directly linked to the joint statement in a tweet by President Trump. In a 60 Minutes interview, Krebs reflected on his agency’s work and described the Trump team’s claims of fraud as attempts to “undermine confidence in the election, to confuse people, to scare people . . . ”

Department of Justice (DOJ)
“To date, [DOJ investigators] have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.” – Attorney General William Barr, December 1, 2020, announcement.
This conclusion was especially notable in light of Attorney General Barr’s extraordinary efforts to support President Trump’s ludicrous fraud allegations. In a break from long-standing DOJ policy, Barr announced in a November 9 memorandum that federal prosecutors were authorized to investigate some election fraud cases before the results of the election were certified, and noted that there may be irregularities that “could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.” The directive was roundly criticized by many former DOJ officials and elections experts.

Richard Pilger, head of the DOJ’s Election Crimes branch, responded to the move by stepping down from his position. Twenty-three Democratic attorneys general signed a letter expressing confidence that “any such investigations will not succeed in overturning the election’s outcome,” but criticizing the move for exacting “the terrible cost of undermining trust in the democratic institutions on which this country depends.” In another critical letter, 16 U.S. attorneys who track election malfeasance noted that the “policy change was not based in fact” and confirmed that in their jurisdictions there was no evidence of substantial election irregularities.
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More votes than voters in Wisconsin.

The list goes on and on....

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Here is the actual truth that you claim to seek...
https://www.fox61.com/article/news/v...3-498d99766c60
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Will this bitch hunt continue for the next three years?

Psst … Bidens numbers are creeping up. Yours are just creeping.
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:12 AM   #3071
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^^ Witch hunt Hmm That hasn't happened before
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it doesn't need to be massive. just enough.

if you say so


this is the laugh of the day


"It must have been the routers. We need access to the routers."


keep searching for the "just enough"


Would "just enough" still be qualified to be "the Crime of the Century ?"


delusional Election Fraud Syndrome is strong here EFS
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Frivolous lawsuits filed by frivolous lawyers claiming "just enough" ? With no evidence...no facts.


How many were filed across the United States ? How many were tossed out by judges as "frivolous" ?
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vm - read your post looking into a mirror!
Learn something!
Please!!!!!
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Old 11-27-2021, 04:39 PM   #3075
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Will this bitch hunt continue for the next three years?

Psst … Bidens numbers are creeping up. Yours are just creeping.
Biden’s just a creep.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/landon...rnors-n2599731
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