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Old 09-12-2013, 12:51 PM   #286
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it seems a bit demeaning to call her that.
You people read what you want and then post. Read my post again and then read it till you see...

I had a sugar baby that turned into a GF. I have never had a hooker that turned into a sugar baby.

Don't ever sign a contract without someone reading it to you first.
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Again, proving my point.



That is the stupidest thing you have said about this lol
You need a connection you said, there has to be attraction. Then you said its for fun.
You have no idea what YOU are even saying let alone what I am trying to say.

You are arguing over what I am looking for. If I am looking for a table and you are telling me you are book ends I want nothing to do with you.

Oh, you do get a sugar baby for a romantic relationship. Or... you get a hooker like yourself for a 1 hour bang.

I had a sugar baby that turned into a GF. I have never had a hooker that turned into a sugar baby.

Again, you are all over the place. you say one thing and then turn around and say another that goes against what you said in another post. You have no clue what you are talking about.
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I have read so many post from this thread-mainly from GY6

I find in 2013 a lot of men pose as SD trying to get FREE PUSSY from young naive girls-again just MHO

Most of them are cheap bastards that prey on needy college girls that don't know any better. Use them for their needs until she realizes-if she ever does.

My thoughts for a SD/SB relationship were ... The SD tells his expectations once he picks her & then she lets him know if she can handle that or lets him know to move on.

Then until they come to a weekly or monthly agreement(once they show each other their trustworthy & dependable) they have a per-engagement agreement.

So the only real difference at first are they are getting to know each other deeper than some of the encounters we have being in the hobby. And they may even see each other more frequently or for longer periods (more than an hour).

So it ultimately starts out like our hobby encounters lets just say more extended dates-so again-Why cant escorts be sugar babies?


Only SOME escorts cant be a great sugar baby just like any other woman-jobs/professions what-ever don't make people unless they let it.

I think I am very fit for being a SB... so I am here if anybody is looking
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:06 PM   #288
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They can be. Just like an astrophysicist that believes in the string theory and one believes in the loop theory sometimes agree on something it can be done.

If you read my posts you will see that I in fact know someone who has a former hooker as a SB. We go out often and we all have a good time.

I am saying that most can't and this thread proves it.

I also agree that there are very few SDs out there and that most prey on the weak young college girl.

If you want to be a sugar baby you may be approached one day.
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They can be. Just like an astrophysicist that believes in the string theory and one believes in the loop theory sometimes agree on something it can be done.

If you read my posts you will see that I in fact know someone who has a former hooker as a SB. We go out often and we all have a good time.

I am saying that most can't and this thread proves it.

I also agree that there are very few SDs out there and that most prey on the weak young college girl.

If you want to be a sugar baby you may be approached one day.
I agree... I don't think many hookers could transform into sugar babies. The mentality seems to be much different.
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:42 PM   #291
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Who are you again?
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:48 PM   #292
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A provider can be a suagr baby. Most SDs don't want a provider as one though.

You can stop providing and be exclusive and taken care of if you want. That is fine. Call yourself a sugar baby and be done with it. Then return to providing until the next guy comes along.


Question asked: Being a sugar daddy means that all her needs are taking care of?

Answer: She may be confused on what her needs are. Providers think about the money aspect 99% of the time.

Needs of a sugar baby: A sugar baby I am looking for is young, wants to thrive and learn and needs help in doing so. The girls I seek (This takes a long time to find and screening for one is time consuming) Notice I say I look for. I don't have one come up to me. It's like asking for a hand out. I don't go to sites like SA or sugarbabyforme etc.. Those are not the girls i am looking for.

My sugar baby:
Mine has a full time job and she works. That is not a redundant statement.

When I met her at 18 years old she had nothing. She lived with Mom and stepdad, she had no drivers licence, no car and no savings. She had no plans and no dreams. She was working a job where she could excel but was there a year and went no place.

How we met:

I would go to the store and buy things. Condoms, little things and maybe pick up bread. I would see her. She was beautiful yet no one could see it. She spoke very soft and was shy. I would see her a couple times a week.

What happened next:

After talking with her and making excuses of I couldn't find something in the store to talk to her more and get to know her better we crossed a magazine section and she pointed to one with a picture of Bon Jovi on the cover. "You look just like him" she said. I said I was an old man now and chuckled and she said you are pretty damn hot for an old man and her face went red. I handed her my business card and asked her to text me when she got out of work.

The text:
thirty minutes after I left she said she was out of work. I asked her if she could meet me for dinner. She said yes but it would have to be close to her home as she didn't have a car. I picked her up.

She now has a car, an apartment, a cute border collie, a drivers licence, she made head of her department and got a raise, she is up for another promotion just this week. I don't give her an allowance and I spent about $40.00 last week on our weekend. We have been together for a little over a year now.

Providers want $4000 a month, money is all you look at. It is what drives you or you wouldn't be looking for the Hollywood sugar daddy. You wouldn't be a provider. You look at the right now and not the future. This is your failure. This is where you fuck up and this is what you will look back on and hate yourself for.

What a sugar baby needs and wants are two different things.

I could walk away from her right now and she would be fine. In the last year I taught her more than some SD that gave her $4000 a month.

What I told her when we met...

You are a bird that fell out of a tree. You keep looking at the nest wondering how to get back in. My sweetheart, you don't need the nest, you need to learn how to fly. That, I can help you with.

Four months into our relationship she took off and she loves flying.

I am a sugar daddy.
I am proud to call myself that.

The relationship prior was a girl I was with for three years. She went from Ghetto home to going to Berkeley. She didn't get $4000 a month either.


You want to be a sugar baby?
Lost the fucking hooker attitude and want to fly.
This just shows how you are just a predator looking for barging pussy. Read your very first sentence. Now you say they can't. Then at the bottom you told us all about your grand pimp speech you gave her.
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You are a bird that fell out of a tree. You keep looking at the nest wondering how to get back in. My sweetheart, you don't need the nest, you need to learn how to fly. That, I can help you with."

Hell that probably would have got me to when I was broke working at the mall trying to make ends meet and stuggling and if you didnt know me, you probably would have tried that on me too. And just like he did, I would have tested you and been whatever you wanted.(in front off you). That's a woman sir. That's how women play men everyday, all day. I could start liking you and something could developed, or I could keep playing the role. You would not know the difference. I guess you've never heard of a woman faking for years with a rich husband she doesn't like huh? That's what sb'a do. They know they are not you girlfriend not do they wanna be. If they wanted a boyfriend they wouldn't be looking for a sd. Most men get sugar babies cause they don't want they demands of a serious thing or don't have time. They don't try to find an sb for love...
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I have read so many post from this thread-mainly from GY6

I find in 2013 a lot of men pose as SD trying to get FREE PUSSY from young naive girls-again just MHO

Most of them are cheap bastards that prey on needy college girls that don't know any better. Use them for their needs until she realizes-if she ever does.

My thoughts for a SD/SB relationship were ... The SD tells his expectations once he picks her & then she lets him know if she can handle that or lets him know to move on.

Then until they come to a weekly or monthly agreement(once they show each other their trustworthy & dependable) they have a per-engagement agreement.

So the only real difference at first are they are getting to know each other deeper than some of the encounters we have being in the hobby. And they may even see each other more frequently or for longer periods (more than an hour).

So it ultimately starts out like our hobby encounters lets just say more extended dates-so again-Why cant escorts be sugar babies?


Only SOME escorts cant be a great sugar baby just like any other woman-jobs/professions what-ever don't make people unless they let it.

I think I am very fit for being a SB... so I am here if anybody is looking
You can't tell him nothing. He believes that pimp speech he spews. Hell, like when a pimp says he's not a pimp, he's the head of a family and wants you to join. It's called GAME and he used it to get poor naive girls so he doesn't have to be challenged mentally by a woman closer to his own age and experiences. He rather play mind games. He really shouldn't brag about it.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:29 PM   #294
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I notice the only retort from some of the ladies is that most SD are just bargain hunters. Again all about the cash. Certainly from a purely transactional perspective it may appear that way. I will wager that many of SD spend more on their SB than would otherwise with providers.

It is about the connection. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they are naive. That certainly holds true here, there just aren't a lot of naive people running around with the exposure to the world as it is. Ladies it isn't just about "cheap pussy". Are there losers who take advantage of girls, sure. Are there ladies that take advantage of guys, sure. I don't enjoy being around someone extremely naive, I want someone on my level to connect with.

There is always going to be a small percentage of girls that appreciate an older guy. They are the true candidates for that type of relationship.


Now just statistically and verifiable by demographic studies, most guys that hobby are far more educated, fit into all walks society more easily, and many have world experiences that may intrigue a young lady as she looks ahead to what she wants out of life. Most down to earth young ladies generally aren't going to become a provider or SB, it takes a certain mentality. I think generally when I talk to providers they agree that many of their clients are financially successful people.

I just don't believe a broad sweeping generalization that it is a bunch of cheap bastards that pray on young naive girls is accurate. Does that happen, sure.

For a married guy having a true SB is not an easy proposition, thus there are providers.
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I notice the only retort from some of the ladies is that most SD are just bargain hunters. Again all about the cash. Certainly from a purely transactional perspective it may appear that way. I will wager that many of SD spend more on their SB than would otherwise with providers.

It is about the connection. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they are naive. That certainly holds true here, there just aren't a lot of naive people running around with the exposure to the world as it is. Ladies it isn't just about "cheap pussy". Are there losers who take advantage of girls, sure. Are there ladies that take advantage of guys, sure. I don't enjoy being around someone extremely naive, I want someone on my level to connect with.

There is always going to be a small percentage of girls that appreciate an older guy. They are the true candidates for that type of relationship.


Now just statistically and verifiable by demographic studies, most guys that hobby are far more educated, fit into all walks society more easily, and many have world experiences that may intrigue a young lady as she looks ahead to what she wants out of life. Most down to earth young ladies generally aren't going to become a provider or SB, it takes a certain mentality. I think generally when I talk to providers they agree that many of their clients are financially successful people.

I just don't believe a broad sweeping generalization that it is a bunch of cheap bastards that pray on young naive girls is accurate. Does that happen, sure.

For a married guy having a true SB is not an easy proposition, thus there are providers.
What you say is true. I agree 99.999%... I know not all sugar daddies are like that. I've have a couple in my short life. I actually prefer older men because I feel another 24 yr old can reach me nothing or do nothing for me. That's my grown way to early free will. BUT, what he was describing is a guy trying to run game on a woman he clearly, as he said, saw was naive and vulnerable. You can metaphor for it would be something like, he threw the line with bait at the fish and she but hook line and sinker. He's a predator sir. I wouldn't even disrespect sugar daddies buy saying he's one.
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And I know it has to be some type of connection but trust me, in the beginning, it's 80 percent sugar and 20 percent daddy. the connection is so you have a comfortable time with each other as you get to know on another as time goes on. Not gonna have a sb/sd you can't get along with.
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We are on the same page, I am not naive either. Now that also depends on what you look like. An older guy that looks good, well taken care of, good physique, lets say a George Clooney type that number could drop to 50/50 for young ladies who like older guys. I get hit on from time to time by ladies much younger than I am. Normally at wine events or upscale type events. In my business where I deal with younger ladies all the time it rarely happens.

A perfect scenario is a young lady who likes older guys, has the discretion of a provider and a guy who has some disposable income the enjoys sharing it, but not necessarily on a transactional basis. At times just hanging out with the guy reliving a bit of his youth, and sharing his experiences with pretty young lady that appreciates his experiences and looks past a wrinkle or 2. The lady gets to take advantage of some travel, finer foods, a decent human with good stability that appreciates her and doesn't smother her. Once he or she is ready to move on, they shed a little tear and wish each other the best, forever. I am fantasizing a bit maybe.


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i don't want any woman too stupid to take care of herself, and i know more smart providers who do this part time than some store clerk having to screw some old man for years on end just to get a lousy apartment. thats not freedom it's desperation. sorry brother, but you have not seen the right providers. you know..the ones that don't need you. you prey and yes you are a predator, on young, naive women who let you walk all over them for a few bucks only to get your fucking rocks off. at least a hooker knows you are a piece of shit going in, and there are no delusions. you are not a sugar daddy. you are a trick wanna be pimp.
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i choose to spend my time with see less than 3-4 guys a month, which most of your sugar babies are seeing too even if you're too naive to figure that out. gotyour6 is just too stupid to realize he is still being played when that SB fucks her boyfriend bareback the day before she sees him.
It is amazing how when I read a post like this and it gets as many likes as it does. RJ must get laid a lot because a buddy of mine told me way back in college to tell the women what they want to hear versus the truth, which is what I did, and he got laid a lot more than I did.

I guess I am weird because I read a post like this and I see for what it is. It is not a guy telling the truth. There is no way RJ can know anything that he posts is true. It is mental masturbation, a guy jerking off to what he fantasizes is true. Thing is how many others are pleasuring themselves to his fantasy: RJ good, hookers good, GY6's sugar baby bad, GY6 really, really bad.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:36 AM   #299
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This just shows how you are just a predator looking for barging pussy. Read your very first sentence. Now you say they can't. Then at the bottom you told us all about your grand pimp speech you gave her.
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You are a bird that fell out of a tree. You keep looking at the nest wondering how to get back in. My sweetheart, you don't need the nest, you need to learn how to fly. That, I can help you with."

Hell that probably would have got me to when I was broke working at the mall trying to make ends meet and stuggling and if you didnt know me, you probably would have tried that on me too. And just like he did, I would have tested you and been whatever you wanted.(in front off you). That's a woman sir. That's how women play men everyday, all day. I could start liking you and something could developed, or I could keep playing the role. You would not know the difference. I guess you've never heard of a woman faking for years with a rich husband she doesn't like huh? That's what sb'a do. They know they are not you girlfriend not do they wanna be. If they wanted a boyfriend they wouldn't be looking for a sd. Most men get sugar babies cause they don't want they demands of a serious thing or don't have time. They don't try to find an sb for love...
Again, you have no idea what you are talking about.

No one is finding love in anything.
You don't read and put words in my mouth that you come up with.

No one is in love.
Keep reading what you want.
Go back to all of my posts and try to figure something wrong.

Not sure why you are bitter about what I do and what you dont want to do.
If you dont like the SB thing or what I want or do then simple thing is... dont do it.
Keep sucking cock and you will be fine.
I really dont care what you do but to tell me that I am doing wrong or taking advantage of a girl you are nuts, high or just another bitter hooker pissed off.

In the last year and a half I have paid more for a SB than I had in my life for a hooker so no, I am not taking advantage of anyone. You will never get it, I dont give a fuck if you do or not. You got an issue with me then sulk in your pillow and kick and scream. BTW. I love my life lol.

So let me sum this up to make you feel better about sucking cock.

I am taking advantage of a young girl
She does have daddy issues.
You are right and I am wrong about everything
There, feel better?
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And I know it has to be some type of connection but trust me, in the beginning, it's 80 percent sugar and 20 percent daddy. the connection is so you have a comfortable time with each other as you get to know on another as time goes on. Not gonna have a sb/sd you can't get along with.
You have to be one of the most stupidest people I ever tried to have a forum discussion with.

The contradictions are fucking amazing.

You should be a politician

We have been together over a year and a half. What the hell do you think happened????????

Everything you are saying is exactly what went on.
Yet you bitch and scream about me not doing one thing or another.
You have no idea what the hell you are talking about
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