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08-26-2014, 09:06 AM
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If there is credible evidence that Brown tried to take his weapon, ...
.... that is enough evidence to justify a finding that he feared he would suffer serious bodily harm or death.
There was a clip on the news showing a portion of a casket at the church.
Hopefully, the officer's defense team will be satisfied with the two autopsies.
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Throughout this whole ordeal what has been the major gripe? Michael Brown was unarmed right. well think about this for a second everywhere a Police Officer goes there is firearm present, the one he is carrying and it can be taken away from him if he doesn't maintain control of it. So with that said if Brown made any attempts to disarm Wilson, then Wilson was certainly reasonable in his assumption that Brown was willing to kill him.
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08-26-2014, 09:53 AM
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Throughout this whole ordeal what has been the major gripe? Michael Brown was unarmed right. well think about this for a second everywhere a Police Officer goes there is firearm present, the one he is carrying and it can be taken away from him if he doesn't maintain control of it. So with that said if Brown made any attempts to disarm Wilson, then Wilson was certainly reasonable in his assumption that Brown was willing to kill him.
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We should put unarmed liberal police persons in the high crime areas, see how that works out for everyone.
BTW, this thread has more views than the forum rules!!!
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08-26-2014, 10:30 AM
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08-26-2014, 10:34 AM
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We should put unarmed liberal police persons in the high crime areas, see how that works out for everyone.
BTW, this thread has more views than the forum rules!!!
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Tell me if you believe this statement. We are all born with a heathen. Whether we will meet him or her will always be hanging in the balance. There is one thing for certain, if you do meet this heathen he or she will be willing to kill you. It's important that you recognize this for it's what you do that will determine whether you survive or not. Maybe Officer Wilson met his heathen and he survived his ordeal by the actions that he took. Unfortunately he had to take a life in order to preserve his own.
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08-26-2014, 12:41 PM
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Tell me if you believe this statement. We are all born with a heathen. Whether we will meet him or her will always be hanging in the balance. There is one thing for certain, if you do meet this heathen he or she will be willing to kill you. It's important that you recognize this for it's what you do that will determine whether you survive or not. Maybe Officer Wilson met his heathen and he survived his ordeal by the actions that he took. Unfortunately he had to take a life in order to preserve his own.
Jim
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I'd say several. But if the police aren't appreciated, maybe they ought to leave. They are the ones preventing lootin, rapin, and murderin'. MoFo's in the hood should be grateful when a thug gets his ass shot - that's called keepin' the peace.
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08-26-2014, 03:10 PM
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I guess the idea behind having Black cops is they will just let the drug dealers, thugs, rapist, punks, thieves, etc just do as they please.
If a Black cop sees a 280 pound thug grab a elderly store keeper by the throat and sling him across the room, I guess he will say, "hey, that old man probably "bumped" him".
In the Houston Chronicle, the headline reads......."emotions fill funeral for gentle giant".
Give me a Fukin break.
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08-26-2014, 04:12 PM
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I guess the idea behind having Black cops is they will just let the drug dealers, thugs, rapist, punks, thieves, etc just do as they please.
If a Black cop sees a 280 pound thug grab a elderly store keeper by the throat and sling him across the room, I guess he will say, "hey, that old man probably "bumped" him".
In the Houston Chronicle, the headline reads......."emotions fill funeral for gentle giant".
Give me a Fukin break.
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Did you notice that throughout the extensive media coverage in this case the media didn't hesitate to bring up the fact that the Ferguson Police Dept. has only three Black Police Officers among their Fifty three man force the rest are white. Of course that was the liberal media's sly way of facilitating a racial connotation of the predominately white force policing a predominate black community. The reality of it all is, very few young black men and women want to be police officers. Secondly there just happens to be a high turnover among Afro American recruits they stay a few years and realize that's not what they want to do. Police work is not just a job one gets because there is nothing else, it's a calling and not everyone can meet it.
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08-26-2014, 09:58 PM
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The truth is no story.
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Hopefully, the officer's defense team will be satisfied with the two autopsies.
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Three autopsies have been performed: one by the locals, one paid for by Crump, and one by the Feds.
CNN's website has featured a story about a video clip from a chat session taken close to the scene that supposedly captured the sounds of four gunshots followed a pause followed by six shots. No description of how long the pause is or release of the video.
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08-27-2014, 02:36 AM
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Did you notice that throughout the extensive media coverage in this case the media didn't hesitate to bring up the fact that the Ferguson Police Dept. has only three Black Police Officers among their Fifty three man force the rest are white. Of course that was the liberal media's sly way of facilitating a racial connotation of the predominately white force policing a predominate black community. The reality of it all is, very few young black men and women want to be police officers. Secondly there just happens to be a high turnover among Afro American recruits they stay a few years and realize that's not what they want to do. Police work is not just a job one gets because there is nothing else, it's a calling and not everyone can meet it.
Jim
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If you look it up the eight member city council has only person who might be other than white (as they say) and the mayor is white. This in a city that is 2/3s black. These people don't vote or run for office. Fuck em, they get what they deserve if they don't want to participate.
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08-27-2014, 04:05 AM
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The truth may not getcha a check. Or votes.
Three autopsies have been performed: one by the locals, one paid for by Crump, and one by the Feds.
CNN's website has featured a story about a video clip from a chat session taken close to the scene that supposedly captured the sounds of four gunshots followed a pause followed by six shots. No description of how long the pause is or release of the video.
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I had heard the Feds were going to perform an autoposy, but I had not seen/heard it was actually performed (and/or where). I am not questioning your conclusion, just still curious.
As for the audio of gunshots ... that can be "evaluated" for authenticity, but if 10 rounds came from the officer's weapon that would have been easy to confirm. If he fired 10 times, four misses and six hits. 60% is a low score.
After he gets cleared, it's back to the range in case he gets assigned to the street again after his desk duty is exhausted.
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08-27-2014, 04:07 AM
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If you look it up the eight member city council has only person who might be other than white (as they say) and the mayor is white. This in a city that is 2/3s black. These people don't vote or run for office. Fuck em, they get what they deserve if they don't want to participate.
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I heard, also, a report that Black voting in the city was extremely low, but also most of the "noise" has been from out-of-towners, e.g. Al Sharpton.
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08-27-2014, 05:19 AM
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...one by the Feds.
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Did find this announcement ...
http://www.fbi.gov/stlouis/press-rel...guson-missouri
Attorney General Statement on Latest Developments in Federal Civil Rights Investigation in Ferguson, Missouri
U.S. Department of Justice August 18, 2014
Office of Public Affairs (202) 514-2007/TDD (202) 514-1888
Attorney General Eric Holder released the following statement Monday following his briefing of President Obama on the latest developments in the federal civil rights investigation in Ferguson, Missouri:
“As I informed the President this afternoon, the full resources of the Department of Justice are being committed to our federal civil rights investigation into the death of Michael Brown.
“During the day today, more than 40 FBI agents continued their canvassing of the neighborhood where Michael Brown was shot. As a result of this investigative work, several new interviews have already been conducted.
“ Moreover, at my direction, an additional medical examination is being performed on the body of Michael Brown. This autopsy is being performed today by one of the most experienced medical examiners in the United States military. I am confident this additional autopsy will be thorough and aid in our investigation.
“In addition to updating the President on these developments, I informed him of my plan to personally travel to Ferguson Wednesday. I intend to meet with FBI investigators, and prosecutors on the ground from the Civil Rights Division and U.S. Attorney’s Office officials about the ongoing investigation.
“I realize there is tremendous interest in the facts of the incident that led to Michael Brown’s death, but I ask for the public’s patience as we conduct this investigation. The selective release of sensitive information that we have seen in this case so far is troubling to me. No matter how others pursue their own separate inquiries, the Justice Department is resolved to preserve the integrity of its investigation. This is a critical step in restoring trust between law enforcement and the community, not just in Ferguson, but beyond.
“In order to truly begin the process of healing, we must also see an end to the acts of violence in the streets of Ferguson. Those who have been peacefully demonstrating should join with law enforcement in condemning the actions of looters and others seeking to enflame tensions.
“To assist on this front, the Department will be dispatching additional representatives from the Community Relations Service, including Director Grande Lum, to Ferguson. These officials will continue to convene stakeholders whose cooperation is critical to keeping the peace. Furthermore, as the President has announced, Ron Davis, our Director of the COPS office, will arrive on the ground in Ferguson Tuesday. Ron has been in touch with local and state officials since last week, providing technical assistance on crowd control techniques and facilitating communications between Missouri officials and other law enforcement officials whose communities have faced similar challenges in the past.”
I guess I should repeat my previous observation ...
Hopefully, the officer's "defense team" will be satisfied with 2 autopsies. LOL.
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08-27-2014, 05:52 AM
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I had heard the Feds were going to perform an autoposy, but I had not seen/heard it was actually performed (and/or where). I am not questioning your conclusion, just still curious.
As for the audio of gunshots ... that can be "evaluated" for authenticity, but if 10 rounds came from the officer's weapon that would have been easy to confirm. If he fired 10 times, four misses and six hits. 60% is a low score.
After he gets cleared, it's back to the range in case he gets assigned to the street again after his desk duty is exhausted.
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Actually it was six shots a pause then four more. But who is counting?
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08-27-2014, 06:32 AM
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Actually it was six shots a pause then four more. But who is counting?
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That is "according to the report of the report of the blog" ... it's still 60% hits.
And 60% is below standard for qualification.
But since he hadn't had ANY EXPERIENCE SHOOTING CITIZENS ON THE STREET, I can imagine he might have been scared shitless when the
"gentle GIANT" was coming at him and his first rounds didn't stop him!!!
And I'm sure in all your worldly experience of "fire fights" you counted every round that you discharged when you were being attacked? Right?
Like "they" do on TV?
The number of rounds he fired will be determined by his magazine. Not some bloggers alleged audio tape of the incident.
Unless his department issues duties rounds at the beginning of his shift ... which he must "return" at the end of his shift. Then it will be determined by the number of rounds he turned in.
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08-27-2014, 09:03 AM
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That is "according to the report of the report of the blog" ... it's still 60% hits.
And 60% is below standard for qualification.
But since he hadn't had ANY EXPERIENCE SHOOTING CITIZENS ON THE STREET, I can imagine he might have been scared shitless when the
"gentle GIANT" was coming at him and his first rounds didn't stop him!!!
And I'm sure in all your worldly experience of "fire fights" you counted every round that you discharged when you were being attacked? Right?
Like "they" do on TV?
The number of rounds he fired will be determined by his magazine. Not some bloggers alleged audio tape of the incident.
Unless his department issues duties rounds at the beginning of his shift ... which he must "return" at the end of his shift. Then it will be determined by the number of rounds he turned in.
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Here's the link to the sound bytes. I find it strange that the only sounds that were picked up were gunshots. No voices from either the officer or suspect, or other surrounding noises. So I can't see how this questionable recording can be verified and used in court as evidence. I have to agree Wilson's magazine and spend shell casings at the scene will confirm how many shots were in deed fired.
Jim
http://youtu.be/dY4KZ46DaEg
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