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ShysterJon · 03-09-2014, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Justme1976

Shyster. Would you recommend or even say it is safe to use a google voice number for your hobby phone number.

I would never say ANY method of reducing risk is fail-safe, but I would think using Google Voice would add an extra layer of insulation, which can't hurt.

ShysterJon · 03-09-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Crock

You missed an important part: Google knows your real phone number, because it routes everything sent to/from your Google Voice number to your real phone number.

And Google is known to cooperate with law enforcement requests (not warrants, requests). I just doubt that law enforcement would request this type of information for a simple prostitution case, but if were part of something bigger (underage girl, or sex trafficking), then I would be worried.

Well, YOU also missed an important part: Justme1976 specifically premised his question on using a hobby phone.

Guest062114-5 · 03-10-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Solemate62

With respect to LE folks, no, you can not! Your phone number in her list of contacts is not proof of a fucking thing!

You have plausible deniability if your number simply exists in a contact list. However, the OP did state he text her regularly, so those texts may be saved. Additionally, if there were enough calls and texts, i think it's safe to say LE would at least suspect that the OP might be involved in the same criminal activity as the arrestee.

Charlie Angel · 03-10-2014, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 2pumpchump

I recently checked my hobby phone and had 3 missed texts on it...(w)hat's strange is that All 3 texts were stamped at being sent at the exact same time!

No, they were time stamped as being RECEIVED at the exact same time. If your phone is turned off, you will receive all pending texts when you turn it back on.

newnewman2014 · 03-10-2014, 08:23 PM

1. Never text or leave voice mail with sexually explicit messages. Voice mail got your voice and can identify you.

2. Never admit that you are the person that receive escort services. The cops may want you to admit you saw her. You don't have to lie by tell them that you are not sure what they are talking about and you want to talk to an attorney about it.

3. Call your attorney immediately and ask them what to do. Don't handle it on your own with police.

4. Someone else use your phone is possible. A family member or you lend the phone to your friend can cause the phone calls to the escort. So it is not a positive that it is you that place the phone call and saw the escort. If it is someone else in your family or you lend your phone to a friend, then you can tell the police. I will still request assistance from an attorney.

If you already make several calls, there is phone record, and an appointment book with your name and number, it is not easy to just claim she didn't see you. If she admit that she saw you with the cops, you going to be lying to the cops when you claim you didn't see her or cancel your appointment. I cannot emphasize enough that you need to hire an attorney on this issue. If you are too poor, you should ask for a public defender. Don't let the cops get you into an interview room and get you admit you came there for sex. If you do, the case is sealed against you. There has been news articles about Johns admitted having sex with a prostitute. The police arrest them on their confession.

Guest062114-5 · 03-10-2014, 09:57 PM

Can you please post links to these news articles. I'd love to see them.

LNK · 03-10-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Justme1976

Shyster. Would you recommend or even say it is safe to use a google voice number for your hobby phone number.

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Originally Posted by ShysterJon

I would never say ANY method of reducing risk is fail-safe, but I would think using Google Voice would add an extra layer of insulation, which can't hurt.

As jframe2 said, GV on a real-life phone = possibility of your hobby activities being tracked to you.

If you have, as any prudent hobbyist has, a hobby-only phone, GV is unnecessary, as that phone is paid for with cash, and leads exactly nowhere.

Crock · 03-10-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShysterJon

Well, YOU also missed an important part: Justme1976 specifically premised his question on using a hobby phone.

Ah, I didn't see that at all. He must have edited that part out?

LNK · 03-10-2014, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crock

Ah, I didn't see that at all. He must have edited that part out?

I don't think he did. I think SJ misread the question. JustMe1976 asked about using GV for his hobby phone number, not about using GV on his hobby phone.

Prime Time · 03-11-2014, 07:27 PM

Only if your name is Bill Clinton or Charlie Sheen.

ShysterJon · 03-12-2014, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LNK

I don't think he did. I think SJ misread the question. JustMe1976 asked about using GV for his hobby phone number, not about using GV on his hobby phone.

I didn't misread anything. Read the whole thread. I answer legal questions. I don't teach remedial reading, too.

LNK · 03-13-2014, 09:15 AM

Not interested in going back further than the question on GV, which this thread has morphed into.

He (JustMe1976) asked about using GV for his hobby phone number. This implies using it on a real-life phone, as a second, theoretically anonymous number on that RL phone.

You replied to Crock that the question was premised on using it on a hobby phone, which was not the case, as the question was worded.

Using GV on a hobby phone is a whole different thing, and unnecessary, IMO, if the hobby phone was bought and activated anonymously.

Using GV on a real-life phone is, as Crock, jframe2, and I all said, NOT going to give you the anonymity you'd like to think you're getting, as it's tied to your RL number, and Google likes to cooperate with LE requests for info. So the "extra layer of insulation" from GV on a RL phone is mighty thin.

tylerdurden · 03-13-2014, 06:44 PM

What about handwritten letters to providers? Not using a real name of course, but like a pen name? I'm surprised this hasn't been touched on already...

ShysterJon · 03-14-2014, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tylerdurden

What about handwritten letters to providers? Not using a real name of course, but like a pen name? I'm surprised this hasn't been touched on already...

What about them? Be clear in your questions.

Althalus · 03-23-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Justme1976

Shyster. Would you recommend or even say it is safe to use a google voice number for your hobby phone number.

I don't know much about the law, but I will recommend against it on technical/practical grounds: Google voice and all other services that put a second number on your phone will not deliver MMS at all. Like somebody sends it to you, and it just disappears, no indication to you that anything was ever sent, no indication to the sender that anything went wrong. I missed one appointment entirely and almost missed 2 others because the messages with the location info never appeared.

You're spending hundreds of $ on this stuff, spend the $10 and get a real burner.