Duck..Duck..Gay?

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat

This is what he said when asked "What, in your mind, is sinful?"

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men,” he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It's not right.

You are a little off there tush. The only comparison he made to beastieality is that they were both sins.

The whole interview is here.

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/tele...?currentPage=1

I have no idea why this would surprise anyone, but he's spouted bigoted opinions more than once! The remarks I quoted on gays were from 2010.

http://www.businessinsider.com/phil-...ension-2013-12

I think his beyond belief remarks about blacks came recently.

[MojoR]

Originally Posted by onlyAMPs4menow

This story isn't about the bible, rednecks, long hair or homosexuality. The real story here is the ability of the left to crush any speech they disagree with. And if you don't see that, wake up.

Sorry but how have "The Left" crushed anything here?

Robertson is still entitled to say whatever he wants to GQ, Bobby Jindal or anyone else who will listen. He is entitled to do so without fearing imprisonment, arrest, government censure or any other punishment from the police or the courts.

We are fortunate to live in a country that offers us such openness. Robertson, like any of us, is entitled to the full enjoyment of that freedom. However, there is a responsibility that comes with this freedom. His comments, were offensive and bigoted and while he is free to express those beliefs there should be consequences.

If the network cancels his show, that is part of the consequences, and they have every right to do so.

[slowmover]

He who writes the checks (A&E) gets to write the rules. When you work for someone, you play by their rules. When you are a marketed "image", you have to be careful what you say. If it's more important to him to say what he says than being employed by A&E then go for it.

It's not a left or right thing. If he had trashed the military the same sort of blow back would have come from a different group and A&E probably would have done the same thing.

The beauty of America is that people don't come in the middle of the night and take you away for what you say.

[SD2011]

So, theoretically let's say for example: Tony Romo comes out as a homo and declares openly in an interview with GC that he thinks bible bangers with guns are the bane of society. As a result of social pressure regarding his comments, the Cowboys go ahead and fire him as part of the consequences of his stated beliefs.

So you leftists would be A-Okay with that right?

And...in your opinion, out of fairness, there would be no gay/lesbo uproar or lefty handwringing (aka ass-kissing) and it would be fine (no lawsuits or claims of discrimination)?

(eyes roll)

[Juan Pablo de Marco]

Originally Posted by SD2011

So, theoretically let's say for example: Tony Romo comes out as a homo and declares openly in an interview with GC that he thinks bible bangers with guns are the bane of society. As a result of social pressure regarding his comments, the Cowboys go ahead and fire him as part of the consequences of his stated beliefs.

So you leftists would be A-Okay with that right?

the cowboys would still suck.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by SD2011

So, theoretically let's say for example: Tony Romo comes out as a homo and declares openly in an interview with GC that he thinks bible bangers with guns are the bane of society. As a result of social pressure regarding his comments, the Cowboys go ahead and fire him as part of the consequences of his stated beliefs.

So you leftists would be A-Okay with that right?

And...in your opinion, out of fairness, there would be no gay/lesbo uproar or lefty handwringing (aka ass-kissing) and it would be fine (no lawsuits or claims of discrimination)?

(eyes roll)

Romo would probably be in better what than the duck mothefucker because he is a member of a union. I have no specific knowledge of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement, but surely it addresses the subjects on which a player can be discharged. I would think that basic protections for expressing political viewpoints would be one activity that would be protected. If the Duck guy had been smart, or represented by a union, he could have avoided this problem.

BTW, here is a good article showing that on top of the indignities of being on the wrong side of history, he's also wrong about his reading of the Bible (which can't be a big surprise to anyone):

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2...ible_says.html

[MojoR]

Originally Posted by SD2011

So, theoretically let's say for example: Tony Romo comes out as a homo and declares openly in an interview with GC that he thinks bible bangers with guns are the bane of society. As a result of social pressure regarding his comments, the Cowboys go ahead and fire him as part of the consequences of his stated beliefs.

So you leftists would be A-Okay with that right?

And...in your opinion, out of fairness, there would be no gay/lesbo uproar or lefty handwringing (aka ass-kissing) and it would be fine (no lawsuits or claims of discrimination)?

(eyes roll)

No issue at all. If Tony's comments were offensive and or discriminatory then his employer has a right to terminate his contract. That is especially the case here in Texas.

The real issue here isn't Robertson's comments about sexuality and sin. What is horrible are his comments about race in the same interview.

In the conservative christian rush to support Robertson for his beliefs about sex and sin, most people seem to have not picked up or focused on these comments.

If Robertson's comments had only been limited to offending homosexuals, I don't think the network would have taken as strong an action against him. But adding the two up - I think he deserved to be fired.

On the liberal side, they too have skipped over this. Perhaps its easier to kick up a fuss and makes a better story, than the civil rights issue.

[SD2011]

Sorry, but I doubt the sincerity of the "I'd have no problem with him being fired for stating his beliefs" if that theoretical situation with Tony outlined earlier happened.

Manufacturing "outrage" to motivate a PC agenda amounts to little more than qasi oppression of a person's right to a personal opinion or belief if it doesn't fit your mold or agenda. The LGBT community is actually supporting the very thing they claim happens to themselves because of their beliefs and lifestyle. It's hypocritical at the very least but being hypocrites is an acceptable norm for leftists in general.

Like I said earlier, it's Orwellian in form (the duck guy situation) and we have a nation driven by some people that are quite comfortable allowing the proverbial tail to wag the dog. I'm not...

It's a slippery slope we find ourselves living in, have fun with it...

Merry Christmas!

[bengay]

We all harbor prejudicial feelings of various type. That can, but does not always translate to hatred. When it does, however, it is dangerous. If said privately, his comments are merely offensive but on over the media, it is egregious. What good can come out of Quoting one's "good book" to spew hatred to the masses?

His comments were definitely politically incorrect, especially now, when our country's top politician was a former regular patron of Chicago's gay bath houses. Blacks were not the only group to celebrate when one of their own got elected.


I am glad this guy got reprimanded.

[Remote]

I understand that someone on this board is an ordained minister, or maybe that is Phil. I will continue to believe the phrase "If you tell a lie often enough most people will believe it." is true. Most people are too lazy to read or study the bible for themselves and will believe the "truths" of the bible as defined by the PC crowd. I guess alot of people are mad at Phil for calling their actions sin. It is not hate speach or any other form of bigotry.

All this is about is the leftist whine and cry and use the words hate speech and bigot for someone who said something that they don't like. Maybe one day you can grow up but I doubt it.

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[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

What a ridiculous notion on your part. What if their "own feelings" were that Jews were an inferior race and should be gassed in ovens? Or that blacks were sub-human and mere chattel to be bought and sold? Or that women were of lesser intelligence and lower moral standing, therefore it was acceptable to deny them the right to vote?

People are free to express any opinion they want, no matter how idiotic it may be. They are not free from the consequences of expressing stupid opinions, unpopular opinions, or bigoted opinions. This Duck motherfucker checked off all three of those boxes in one fell swoop. When one's livelihood depends upon the good will of the public, doing shit like that is beyond stupid, unpopular and bigoted. It's also self destructive. C'est la vie!!

One of the best comments on the debacle I've seen so far. Thank you.

L4L

[TheWanderer]

Tony Romo may not be the smartest guy in the world but he is smarter than that. The backlash that a professional athlete faces from making those kind of remarks is usually never worth it. The NFL has a Code of Conduct policy.
Specifically -
"Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players."

A good example might be John Rocker. Remember him and his anti NY and anti gay remarks. He was pretty much anti-everybody.
Got this from Wiki:
"Although Rocker later apologized after speaking with Braves legend and Hall of Famer Hank Aaron and former Atlanta mayor and congressman Andrew Young, he continued to make controversial remarks. For his comments, he was suspended without pay for the remainder of spring training and the first 28 games of the 2000 season, which on appeal was reduced to 14 games (without a spring-training suspension)."

I don't want to live in an Orwellian society anymore than anyone else, however, we are a very diverse society and if you are in the public eye and are employed by a major corporation, I think you can expect the people that sign your paycheck to expect you to refrain from making comments that create controversy or possibly offend any group of people.

[Guest060214]

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

What a ridiculous notion on your part. What if their "own feelings" were that Jews were an inferior race and should be gassed in ovens? Or that blacks were sub-human and mere chattel to be bought and sold? Or that women were of lesser intelligence and lower moral standing, therefore it was acceptable to deny them the right to vote?

People are free to express any opinion they want, no matter how idiotic it may be. They are not free from the consequences of expressing stupid opinions, unpopular opinions, or bigoted opinions. This Duck motherfucker checked off all three of those boxes in one fell swoop. When one's livelihood depends upon the good will of the public, doing shit like that is beyond stupid, unpopular and bigoted. It's also self destructive. C'est la vie!!

+1000

I never heard of this neanderthal reality TV yahoo before this. It's more like ZZTop goes duck hunting. I dismissed him after reading his comments, then I saw a pic of his family. It all made me want to watch Deliverance again.

His 15 seconds are up as far as I am concerned.

[TexasCowboy]

Well the Rev. Jessie has gotten into the picture looking to make some money off of this, give it a little bit of time and the Re. Al will be jumping on the bandwagon waiting for his cut.....Individuals should just be able to express themselves...Can not be not worse then seeing two queers holding hands......

[SD2011]

Guys, this isn't about gay (btw, I'm fine with gays), nor is it about whether or not the duck dude is a redneck, or if he is even right or wrong in his beliefs. Of course A&E can drop him (already said that). I'm more interested in the organized en'masse effect from the PC-stasi crowd and where that phenomena of squelching the dissenting view de jour is taking us as a nation.

My point is that regardless of your position, when your own personal beliefs are labeled toxic by a minority and you are demonized by being honest about your personal feelings on a subject when asked (regardless of dissenting opinions of if it's right or wrong), it just goes against the grain of personal freedom we are supposed to hold dear. If you notice, there are more ways to be "offended" these days for "special" designated groups than ever before. Where will it stop or will it ever? Before long, there will be so many special interest positions to be offended about it will be impossible to speak.

A conversion from silos of suppression to organized oppression isn't really a big leap. In the long run, I think we are being cleverly divided (socially Balkanized) and played against each other like suckers and we are slowly but surely collectively being "groomed" as a nation for internal failure. The duck dude/gay thing just seems to be another symptom of a much bigger problem.

Merry Christmas! (a phrase which is now considered offensive to some - lol)